1. #2081

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    http://us.wowarmory.com/character-sh...sko&gn=Overdue

    Hit-capped, Exp-capped (SoV), 4piece, 10k dps.

    I know that Mining doesn't do anything for dps, but my MS is tank and I have other important reasons not to drop it.

    Vindication should stay too.

    Also heroic 25mans are not likely to happen for me anytime soon.

    I still gemming 10crit/10str for +4 str bonus, but already high on crit (46.5%) and wonder about that diminishing returns.

    Please criticize.

  2. #2082

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    8/10 although i would suggest you to get the strength ring from Ashen as you got agility cloak, or get Winding sheet from rotface and keep agil ring, as you're crit is high, also i'd say get t10 shoulders, better then your current ones(you dont need 8% hit anyway).


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...vanas&cn=Heyns

    everything said above, exp capped with glyph, hit capped with draenie, got another chest for no dreanie in raid(10man if no shammy,unlikely though)

    still waiting for Tiny abo in a jar though

  3. #2083

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Heyn
    i would suggest you to get the strength ring from Ashen as you got agility cloak
    It's 26 less dps by Rawr.

    or get Winding sheet from rotface and keep agil ring
    Have it. It's 10 less dps. Can't help it, agi items are still bis even this close to 50% crit.

    also i'd say get t10 shoulders, better then your current ones(you dont need 8% hit anyway).
    It will put me below 8% hit and -56 dps by Rawr.
    I'm not Draenai and there is no guarantee space goat will be at my group when raiding (it's party-wide, not raid-wide).


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...vanas&cn=Heyns

    everything said above, exp capped with glyph, hit capped with draenie, got another chest for no dreanie in raid(10man if no shammy,unlikely though)

    still waiting for Tiny abo in a jar though
    I'd say 8/10 too.
    Trinkets are just fail for a heroic 25man raider.
    Also pally tanks should take care of DS/DG, since they can take DG and make this combo actually useful. AM is a better choice for non-vindicating rets or so I heard.

  4. #2084

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Theres no armory above me, so heres mine:
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Edge&cn=Delkyn
    I realize im over hit cap a fair bit but its all from gear at the moment.
    Im in a 10 man casual guild so gear isnt the greatest, but I try to pug 25 ICC every week and hopefully be getting a Shadows Edge soon. I'll also be getting 4P T10 by the end of week.
    Thank you.
    Edit: I do realize I still need to spec into AM, will get that done tonight.

  5. #2085

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    the guy above me seems pretty good. needs to get rid of that armor pen gear though. hopefully something better will drop for ya.


    heres mine
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&cn=Sinfulpaly
    yes im WAY over hit cap atm. BUT as soon as i get a tier token i will be useing tier chest+festergut gloves and will be at where i should be for hit.

    also...wtb deathwhisper's boots

  6. #2086

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Yeah, as you said, you're way over the hit cap. But on the overall, it's pretty decent! Your gems are correct, although i put my nightmare's tear in my t10 legs, which allowed me to grab the gem bonus.

    8.75/10 for the 12.60% to hit, but it's very good^^

    Here's mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...es&cn=Aelthais

    I do not raid very often right now. It might change in a near future, but right now i still have some pretty indecent emblem gear. I got the bloods for the shadow's edge, but the saronites' farm is quite time consuming to me, so...i don't have this shiny axe yet.


    Also, i finally registered to mmo-champion! It's my first post here, and English is not my native language so, sorry if my posts are a filled with horrible grammar mistakes or bad formulations. I hope to contribute well to this community, though.
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  7. #2087

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Aelthais
    Yeah, as you said, you're way over the hit cap. But on the overall, it's pretty decent! Your gems are correct, although i put my nightmare's tear in my t10 legs, which allowed me to grab the gem bonus.

    8.75/10 for the 12.60% to hit, but it's very good^^

    Here's mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...es&cn=Aelthais

    I do not raid very often right now. It might change in a near future, but right now i still have some pretty indecent emblem gear. I got the bloods for the shadow's edge, but the saronites' farm is quite time consuming to me, so...i don't have this shiny axe yet.


    Also, i finally registered to mmo-champion! It's my first post here, and English is not my native language so, sorry if my posts are a filled with horrible grammar mistakes or bad formulations. I hope to contribute well to this community, though.
    Hit rating is on point very nice there just seems like u need just general upgrades overall keep raiding and u will eventually get there.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...t&cn=Theginger

    Got my 5pc T10 but sadly the chest i'm currently wearing is better.... waiting on the tiny aboms to drop and my guild to get there shit together so i can get into heroic icc

  8. #2088

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Kisko

    I'd say 8/10 too.
    Trinkets are just fail for a heroic 25man raider.
    Also pally tanks should take care of DS/DG, since they can take DG and make this combo actually useful. AM is a better choice for non-vindicating rets or so I heard.
    i would say you're right about Aura mastery, been trying it, usually running 11/5/55 though, and about trinkets, i lost Deaths verdict 16 times, don't wanna talk about it (also got Deathbringers will which is better then DMC according to EJ, although im not too keen about that)\
    and WFS never dropped for me o_o

  9. #2089

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Hit rating is on point very nice there just seems like u need just general upgrades overall keep raiding and u will eventually get there.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...t&cn=Theginger

    Got my 5pc T10 but sadly the chest i'm currently wearing is better.... waiting on the tiny aboms to drop and my guild to get there shit together so i can get into heroic icc
    Pretty good overall ide say, tho i believe 22agi is still better then 23 haste on cloak.


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...er&cn=Samarito
    Im well aware of the extra hit i have... the none hit items i want keeps aluding me...
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&cn=samarito

  10. #2090

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarito
    Pretty good overall ide say, tho i believe 22agi is still better then 23 haste on cloak.


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...er&cn=Samarito
    Im well aware of the extra hit i have... the none hit items i want keeps aluding me...
    10/10, Very nice gear, Talents are fine, Nice enchantments.

    No words to say.

    My Retri Paladin is my alt, not that long 80 and not been playing alot, also my cloak isn't enchanted yet.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ght&cn=Raypala

  11. #2091

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    I've been looking at a lot of armorys here and there and the most common thing i see is the STR ashen verdict ring. WHY? Please do the ret paladin community a favor and replace it with the agility one. It is substantially better then the str one. Another common thing i see, is picking the plate dps hit belt from frost badges when you are hit capped already. Don't just buy a belt because it's plate. If you are hit capped and need a belt, go ahead and buy Vengeful noose. It's not a bad belt compared to the belt off Putricide which should be the one you are aiming for if you aren't trying to get the one off dreamwalker. I noticed this when a random ret paladin on my server saw me wearing vengeful noose and he proceeded to criticize me for not knowing how to gear my character. I laughed at him and told him I'd try harder. Also i see a lot of people still asking which trinkets are better. These are the trinkets copied from Elitist Jerks from best to worst. I also added a few of the older/newer trinkets to help with the less geared characters.

    HTAIAJ > TAIAJ > HDC/DV > HWFS > DC/DV > WFS > HDBW > Herkumi War Token > DBW > DMC > Comet's Trail > Dark Matter > Wrathstone > FOTFF > Banner of Victory > Needle Encrusted Scorpion > Mirror of Truth

    If you think something is wrong or incorrect about that listing please let me know and i shall change it.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    i'm not that good at gearing exactly right and i'm aware of the pvp items.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...Outland&cn=Xzh

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  13. #2093

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by boredachiever
    i'm not that good at gearing exactly right and i'm aware of the pvp items.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...Outland&cn=Xzh
    If this is a PvP build, you really want that extra point in Unyeilding Faith and 2 in Guardian's Favor.

    If it's not, you should be getting Aura Mastery, Vindication or Divine Sacrifice (it's hardest of the three to use properly though) for raid utility. You also should be glyphing Seal of Vengance, because even though you have high expertise, you aren't capped.

    Gear wise I'm only going to give you PvE advise:
    Rings, change your Ashen Band to Agility, and look for any hit free ring as your second, doesn't matter if it's strength or agility.
    Cloak, is crap. Get one with crit and/or haste (there are really good ones with both in 10 and 25 man ICC). When you replace this, enchant the new one with haste.
    Neck and Bracers, PvP as you said.
    Helmet, you will actually see a DPS increase from your T9 helmet even if it's 232 because the set bonus is amazing. Next time, put an agility/crit damage meta in it (use a Nightmare Tear to get the blue requirement). That run speed doesn't stack with Pursuit of Justice.

    I'm going to give you a 6/10, but don't take it harshly, use the advice you get and you'll go up a few points.
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Lerentis

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Tals
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    Pretty nice gear. The only changes I can see are to switch your cloak enchant from haste to 23 Agility (per point it is a slim dps increase), and if possible, drop DG for AM or Vindication- This depends on your raid comp, but Divine Guardian without it being improved makes it the weakest of the utility options for Ret Paladins to obtain.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronark
    from haste to 23 Agility
    hum ron, 2pt9 is done now go back to haste :P

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nienniora
    hum ron, 2pt9 is done now go back to haste :P
    He is an engineer. The 23 agi will be better than 23 haste.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Swampmoose
    He is an engineer. The 23 agi will be better than 23 haste.
    ah right :P

  18. #2098

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ammer&cn=Vlade

    Some helpfull criticism would be very much appreciated.

    This is a level 70 Paladin, but I'm almost at 80 anyway so might as well start doing things right at this stage.

    Yes, I know I have some tank gear.
    Yes, I know I have Lawbringer bracers.
    Yes, I know I have the Six Demon Bag equipped, I have normally http://www.wowhead.com/item=37556 equipped in that slot.

    The only reason I have those is because I could not find anything better, I rushed through 58-70 and did not do many dungeons.

  19. #2099

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Here's my link still waiting on Byntroll to finally come to me after losing countless rolls.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...cn=Blooddigger


    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&cn=Blooddigger
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&cn=Jesla

  20. #2100

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by blooddigger
    Here's my link still waiting on Byntroll to finally come to me after losing countless rolls.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...cn=Blooddigger
    change boot enchant, swap to agi rep ring, regem other ring. drop SoV glyph for exo.
    Pondering returning.
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