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    Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Greetings paladin forum.

    As i recently (yesterday) dinged 80 on my paladin, i'm about to start doing dungeons, and asap heroics.
    Having however played warrior since i started, i must admit it not something i'm most knowledgeable about.
    There i now come to all of you, hoping you will take a few minutes out of your day, to help me gain a bit more knowledge on the subject, and hopefully end up becomming a good paladin.

    My questions are as follow:

    1. Could someone link me a good spec?. (and information about what skills that is mostly used in this spec).

    2. Advice on what stats to go for. (and perhaps some easy to aquire gear).

    3. Heard that paladins either go for "holy light spamming builds", or "Flash of light spamming builds", and that the first is the best, but first when good gear is aquired, is this true?, and should i than start with FoL build?.

    4. Around at which point am i geared enough to heal heroics? (like how much mana, crit, regen, sp and so on).


    Any other advice is ofcourse more than welcome, as i really would like to learn.

    Thank you in advance

    -Langianu.


    P.s. my paladin can be found here: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...e+Co&n=Grammar

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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    SOMEONE answer this OP!
    i am in exact same boat---
    guess ill go troll and see if i can find some answers

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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by dethtroll
    SOMEONE answer this OP!
    i am in exact same boat---
    guess ill go troll and see if i can find some answers
    Or you could go read any of the other 500 similarly titled threads...
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by Langianu
    1. Could someone link me a good spec?. (and information about what skills that is mostly used in this spec).

    Any other advice is ofcourse more than welcome, as i really would like to learn.
    You shouldn't buy accounts, ya know. Those are things you will learn while leveling ;D
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharaki
    You shouldn't buy accounts, ya know. Those are things you will learn while leveling ;D
    Sure.. i bought my account.. If you check, i already have a spec set, and if i had bought an account.. would i really have dinged yesterday, as well as have that crappy gear?.. *sigh*. I know the basic, but as i mentioned i know more about melee, and dps. and further more i lvled all the way as retri, meaning the only time i had to heal myself, was when i fought an elite, and most of the time, just with the instant FoL, as this was more than enough. So my appoligies for not having healed instances..

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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Tbh, just go ret, say ur only rolling healing gear ( well get the dps epics fro toc hc first) , do toc hc, and do ALOT of hcs, voa, etc etc, when u have decent healing gear ( for hcs) gogo healzor and train ur skills, DO NOT FORGET to do TOC normal... gr8 epics for starters
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    I know very little about holy paladins, but what I can gather:

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...b,RJk3R-,10747

    Would be your starting spec for heroics. I looked at your armory and I assume you'll want to try running heroics each day to get the conquest gear and t9 shoulders from triumph emblems. Also, run ToC (reg and H) alot, and keep in mind you don't get saved in reg, so you can repeatively complete it.

    The stats you'd be looking for are intellect, crit, mp5, spell power, and haste.

    And I agree with Xmile. Start in Ret while bringing up Holy gear, it'll be much easier.
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by Langianu

    3. Heard that paladins either go for "holy light spamming builds", or "Flash of light spamming builds", and that the first is the best, but first when good gear is aquired, is this true?, and should i than start with FoL build?.
    In heroics, use a FoL spam with Beacon of Light and Sacred Shield on the tank. Holy Light spamming is reserved for raids.
    Holy Light is acceptable to use if your tank has quite a chunk of health missing and FoL isn't cutting it, however.
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    Pretty Much i would suggest a 51/5/15 Build, It offers you 99% of everything you will never need for PvE Healing and some nice bonuses for your group.

    Cookie Cutter 51/5/15 = http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sxAzt...dxZVcbx:dwIczM

    Holy Tree: You get almost everything all the Major Talents / Cooldowns and + Healing effectiveness Talents only thing you don't get it the PvP oriented Talents and some cleaning/dispelling talents.

    Prot Tree:
    5/5 Divinity gives you 5% more effective heals.

    Ret Tree:
    First Talent, 5/5 Benediction 5% less on the manna cost of Instant Spells (Holy Shock/Instant FoL/Judgments)
    Second Talent, 3/3 Heart of the Crusader, this is a group/raid buff on the target that increases the chance that all attacks against the target will be a critical strike by 3%. (Yes other classes can put this up but it is really nice in 5/10mans)
    Third Talent can be either 2/2 Imp. Judgment for more Judgments/chances at manna from Seal of Wisdom or 2/2 Imp. Might for your group (Physical DPS will love you). You can only get one of the talents so its really up to personal preference.
    The final Talent I would suggest picking up is 5/5 Conviction (+5% Crit for all spells)

    Glyphs (Major)
    Holy Light (Splash heal is nice for raids)
    Beacon Of Light (+30 Seconds on BoL) This is a MUST for any healing Paladin, BoL is a vary expensive spell at ~1300mana a cast, this doubles the effective duration saving you an enormous amount of mana
    Seal of Wisdom (Reduces the cost of Healing spells by %5 while Seal of Wisdom is active) This is vary nice since it really is the only to reduce the mana cost of healing spells for a paladin. Also if you have a chance to stand next/under a boss you can melee to gain some mana back from Seal of Wisdom.

    Minor Glyphs
    Lay on Hands (Reduses the cool-down of LoH by 5mins) - Nice tool to LoH your self for a bit of mana and heal the Tank with Beacon of Light.

    Blessing of Kings (Reduces the Mana Cost of Kings by 50%)

    Blessing of Wisdom (adds 20mins to the duration of Blessing of Wisdom if casted on your self) - The main use of this is so if you have to BoW your self it has a 30min duration.
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    OP: you mentioned FoL healing... it can be viable, but in a raid setting it depends on what your raid composition needs.

    1) If there are no holy paladins already, I think you're better off going with a Holy Light (HL) route, because it's always desirable to have at least one HL bomber on the tanks.
    2) Likewise, if there already is a holy paladin and he's a FoL healer, again, you're better off going with a HL route.
    3) However, if there already is a HL paladin, then you're better off going FoL (in my experience.)

    FoL paladins stack spell power, as you mentioned. HL paladins gear for haste, and gem for Intellect.

    As for addons, make sure to pick up one that tracks your cooldowns, like clcbpt. It tracks the uptime of beacon, sacred shield, judgements of the pure, etc.

    Hope this helps!

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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    To do Heroics as a holy paladin:
    1) Install Grid or anything similar.
    2) Find your group
    3) Beacon of Light the tank
    4) Heal everyone
    5) Stack int like a crazy mo'fo.
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Tip # 1- NEVER CALL YOURSELF PALA

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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    the guy is already specced into raid talent lol

    I'd pick up 3 pts into improved righteous fury and have that on all the time, you'll never pull aggro even with fury on and 6% dmg reduce is quite nice



    And you need Glyph of Seal of Wisom as major glyph instead of divinity; I personally prefer holy shock glyph over beacon but thats just a personal choice. Beacon glyph is really nice too



    and go install grid and gridraiddebuffs, that will seriously help you as a healer in raids

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    I'm the best holy pally in the world, even my mom says so.

    but i'm not sharing my technique, you have to figure it out on your own just like I did (hint: lots of holy lights and gemming for sp)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolmatt701
    I'm the best holy pally in the world, even my mom says so.

    but i'm not sharing my technique, you have to figure it out on your own just like I did (hint: lots of holy lights and gemming for sp)
    SP is only the second option to gem for as holy.

    INT FTW. you get mana, crit, SP and mana regen. every 100 int is 110 int after talents, or 1650 mana, 22 SP and some crit (don't know the exact numbers for that). also, you get 82.5 Mp5 for 15 seconds every minute from plea, 16.5 Mp5 from replenishment.

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    don't worry i was trolling :
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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolmatt701
    don't worry i was trolling :
    atleast if you give advice, make sure it the correct one and not saying to stack sp.

    and dont troll...the guy/girl is asking info, so just answer the question or dont post at all

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    Re: Newly dinged pala. - Want to heal - Advice please

    go for the 51/5/15 build to start with
    always stack int. nothing else. use a nightmare tear to get meta gem. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49110
    and this is meta gem http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41401
    you want haste above crit and then crit.
    so int/haste/crit
    you can heal heroics starting at probably 14k mana. run reg toc and get all the gear you can then run some heroics to get the conquest badges and get better gear. also you can where cloth and leather and mail so if it is an upgrade then get it if no-one else wants it.
    also healbot is good so is grid and clique. it will allow you to be faster at healing. also do not wait for them to take damage and then more damage to start healing.
    i also like my spec alot and have used it since i hit 80. but i think i would go with the other build.
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...in&n=Biggmomma
    also good luck.

    one other thing get this it is 15300 honor http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42614
    and you will not be able to holy light spam until you hit around 25k mana buffed but you will figure that out. beacon and shield the tank and you are good to go

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