ohreally?
check my alt char tavore, eu daggerspine..
geared EXCLUSIVELY via pug, currently sitting on 4/5 toc 25 hc (we did toc25 hc just 5 times with this group and managed to get to anub with 48 try left a few weeks ago) VIA he forementioned "mixed group that plays together JUST once a week and without vent//ts"..
we play once a week (sunday) from 20 gmt+1 to 23:30//24:00 gmt+1..
first two times the group was set up, we just ran toc 25 norm +uldu..
then switched to toc 25 norm + toc 25 hc (where ppls did unexpetactly well, downing 2/5 on our first toc 25 hc together since a few hadn't ever been in hc toc)..
next week toc 25 norm + toc 25 hc (4/5, anub with 43 try)
next week toc 25 norm + toc 25 hc (4/5, anub with 46 try)
next week toc 25 norm + toc 25 hc (4/5, anub with 48 try)
then icc came and we stopped doing toc 25 hc, and skimmed to icc25, clearing the content every week, save this where as i say we bought putri in p3 in the best try, and we have 6 try left but i doubt we'll use 'em since the policy is just raiding once a week..
and if you don't believe me, ask about Relg, he's the "organizer"//rl, although no real strategy is ever issued apart from sporadic healer-->dps//tank-->dps switch and general strategy..
people are expected to have watched a vid and have a general comprehension of the inc they are about to engage.. they are free to ask any question in case..
that's how it works and it has worked FINE indeed so far
Not to boast, but if you're a decent player playing WITH decent players (i won't lie to you, the peeps in here are "invited", not found via /LFM icc25... iirc lowest dps we have is sitting most time at 5.7-6k on non gimmick fight), there is no "badly tuned inc", there are incs that might get a bit chaotic in the end (ooze spawning rhytm increasing a LOT at the end of a boss for example is stressing..) but nothing so far stroke me as impossible..
@nardog dps-wise the numbers are good looking, out of curiosity what buff did you have?
unholy dk (how + 13%)
mm huntard (ap)
pala (bless+haste + replenishment iirc)
mage (3% dmg neglibile, since you had the pally)
veraan boomkin maybe?
arc+eeragon tanks..
so if you had a shammy healer and priest healer and kilroy as a pala healer, buff-wise you were nicely covered
correct me if i'm wrong, i'm trying to guess your raid buff just out of curiosity, since it striked me oddly that dps-wise your numbers are in line with our 10men guild run, but you felt the need to run with 4 healers.. usually we run with 2 + 1 healer switching to dps when un-needed.. i'd ask the healers to cuts with the slacking if you feel the need of a fourth healer even remotely :L