Heroic Lich King Kill, PTR 3.3.3 Build 11623

[dumkin]

Great... so now DK tanks only got one taunt for taunt rotations? We'll be fucked if the Dark Command will be resisted...

Where is warriors 2nd taunt? you cant always use AoE taunt, and mocking blow is only melee range

[Aswed]

Grats paragon!

[Deleted]

Companion Pets

* Lil' XT - Right Click to set down or pick up your Lil' XT action figure.

I hope it's not another bloody purchase from the Blizzard store...

£22 for a plushie is a bit of a dam ripoff and the Lil' KT and pandaren pets have shot up to $10/£9 each since release.
Talk about a money hungry corporation. It's not like they don't get enough from the 10 million odd subscribers...

Also, the plushies are $25. How on earth does that equate to £22? I know there's overheads and all but the exchange rate isn't that bad...

There could be a mountain of reasons for the conversion rate. For example, the price is also €25, which in turn could be because they are more expensive to sell in Europe; if they're manifactured or even just distributed from the United States, they have to be sent over most likely to France, which costs in currency conversion fees, taxes and customs. In short, a $9 increase in price ($25 > €25) is liable.

Then, it must also be sent to the UK. More taxes, more customs. Since United Kingdom isn't a member of the EMU, there must also be further currency conversion fees.

And yes, they might throw in one or two US Dollars extra on their own profit. However, most of the money they get from the increased cost is most likely, based on my best educated guesses and no research used on the fees.

Remember, Plushies as opposed to Steam Store products (LOL $1=€1=£1) are actual physical entities. It's a lot more you need to take into account than with virtual products.

[Ryuko]

Where is warriors 2nd taunt? you cant always use AoE taunt, and mocking blow is only melee range

You tank Saurfang, Festergut and Lich King from far away? That's quite a feat.

[lancore89]

Life Tap - Now converts [ 150% of Spirit + 1490 ] health into [1490 + Spell Power * 0.5 ] mana. (Old - [300% of Spirit + 1490] health into [1490 + Spirit * 3 Mana]

Uhh, that doesn't make any sense...

I will sacrifice more health with more spirit, but I always get 1490 + Spell Power * 0.5 mana?
Guess it should be "Now converts [ 150% of Spirit + 1490 ] health into [150% of Spirit + 1490 + Spell Power * 0.5 ] mana."

[Kyocere]

185 honor per mark? What a crock.

[Idaho Immortal]

Where is warriors 2nd taunt? you cant always use AoE taunt, and mocking blow is only melee range

our aoe taunt has a shitty range as well, and i believe Mocking Blow is on old taunt mechanics?

Correct me if I'm wrong...


But neither one of the abilites ever seems to work for me very well.

[Gractan]

So you still get achievment while using the buff... Pretty ****ing messed up considering it's 30% in the end. So casuals complain that Blizz made a hardmode for the more serious players so now Blizz have to make the hardmodes more casual... That's ****ed up.

The thing, just looking at the nature and skill level of casuals, I doubt they will be able to beat the hardmodes even WITH the 30% buff. I am a casual...I just don't have the free nights to do regular raid times, but this buff makes me kinda excited because I might actually stand a chance at seeing the Lich King and fighting him, versus just seeing replays of everyone else. Kind of like going back and doing The Sunwell Plateau. Even though at lvl 80 its insanely easy, it was still really cool to see from a lore and just excitement viewpoint.

But when it comes to hardmodes, yeah, I think that having, in the end, a 30% buff, makes it not so hard. If Blizz wants to give away free cool mounts, why not just mail them to everyone?

[Elizaelrama]

[Sarcasm]Brilliant[/sarcasm], so multi dotting on trash is now out of the question, and multi dotting adds in boss fights wont happen either.

Why not just put an ICD on devious minds so that people cant abuse multi dotting to keep it up 100% and still allow us to keep UA on multiple targets.

A) its going to be a massive dps loss in burn add fights like PP and LK, as the new target getting UAed/Immoed will remove it from the boss

and B) its going to mean you can apply bugger all pressure in PVP as all but on of your targets can be spam dispelled, and your applying 1/3 less damage on top of that to your secondary and tertiary targets.

[Armlock]

While the way you say it makes you sound like a total douche... i have to agree.

Why do the top-performing guilds have to put a spin on everything to make them sound so great?

Paragon are turning into Ensidia >.>

If they were so close to getting the kill last reset without the buff... why bother using it this time round?

IMO: World First should ONLY be WITHOUT the buff, considering it is OPTIONAL.

i really have to agree

[-oz-]

Grats to Paragon on world First 10 kill. Both Ensidia and Paragon used the 5% buff and im sure all the top guilds will.

Not to diminish what Paragon done, but the main reason they got world first was because they extended their lockout on their 10 man run and Ensidia didn't, as muqq says on the ensidia site with a "" face. When it comes to world first's, even 10, taking the risk of locking your raidID is risky and it paid off for Paragon.

This also adds more complexity to the race. Does Paragon now have a time bonus on 25 man because Ensidia had to clear 10 first, or does Ensidia have the edge because they got more 10 hc loot. Small difference, but in the end it could make the difference between fist and second.

Either way, this has been one of the best races against 2 of the best guilds. All petty fighting aside, they both deserve it, but who wants it more...

[-oz-]

i really have to agree

This is just stupid. So all kills back in vanila should be discounted when all the top guilds went around and got all the world buffs before going to kill a boss for the first time... because they were optional. Totems, Pally Buffs, food are all optional.

[Tang]

While the way you say it makes you sound like a total douche... i have to agree.

Why do the top-performing guilds have to put a spin on everything to make them sound so great?

Paragon are turning into Ensidia >.>

If they were so close to getting the kill last reset without the buff... why bother using it this time round?

IMO: World First should ONLY be WITHOUT the buff, considering it is OPTIONAL.

World first is world first. You can't simply decide that history didn't happen because it didn't happen the way you would prefer.

[Tang]

[Sarcasm]Brilliant[/sarcasm], so multi dotting on trash is now out of the question, and multi dotting adds in boss fights wont happen either.

Why not just put an ICD on devious minds so that people cant abuse multi dotting to keep it up 100% and still allow us to keep UA on multiple targets.

A) its going to be a massive dps loss in burn add fights like PP and LK, as the new target getting UAed/Immoed will remove it from the boss

and B) its going to mean you can apply bugger all pressure in PVP as all but on of your targets can be spam dispelled, and your applying 1/3 less damage on top of that to your secondary and tertiary targets.

It's just a tooltip update, to let people know that you can't have your UA and Immolate on the same target at the same time.

Good job nerd raging because you don't know how to read.

[DrgnDancer]

At the risk of sounding like a troll or nut-hugger, I'd really like to be able to go back to when Ensidia got their bugged kill and cram this quote down the throats of some of the retard posters that followed.

I couldnt care less about whether or not the ban was legit legit or not, but it always pissed me off when some moron claimed the ban was justified because "zomg! Ensidia should have reported the bug and the quit working on the boss until it was fixed! its their fault for working on a bugged boss!" End zone bosses are always bugged, and they dont always get fixed quickly. Sometimes the bugs make the fight harder, sometimes the bugs make it easier, but either way the World First guilds arent going to stop working on them. They just adapt and try and find a solution.

Ensidia:

"There's a bug in this encounter. Something is rebuilding the platform. (I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn't know what was doing it, although evidence seems to point to them knowing and deliberately exploiting).

Sweet! Keep going, that'll make it easier to finish! We'll report it after we get the World First."

Paragon:

"There's a bug in this encounter! It's way harder than it's supposed to be!

Damn, that sucks. Report it now and we'll see if we can work around it."

See a difference there? Ensida chose to make use of a bug that they admit they saw (although they may or may not have actually known why, or made a deliberate attempt to exploit it), but not report it until after it had helped them. Paragon tried to live with and work around a bug that hurt them, after reporting it immediately. Your comparison doesn't even make sense.

[Starfox]

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[Fraza]

IMO: World First should ONLY be WITHOUT the buff, considering it is OPTIONAL.

Using flasks is optional.
Getting well fed is optional.
Enchanting is optional.
Gemming is optional.
Buffing the group is optional.
Wearing anything other than some RP gear from stratholme runs is optional.

They used everything they could get. It's a legit way to min/max, it's a legit kill.

[Kyocere]

This is just stupid. So all kills back in vanila should be discounted when all the top guilds went around and got all the world buffs before going to kill a boss for the first time... because they were optional. Totems, Pally Buffs, food are all optional.

Well said. Using Hunter's Mark, Focus Magic, and other various abilities are "optional" so any kill using them is void apparently. No more Aspect of the Dragonhawk for me! MY DPS is not legit while I use it.

[Caradinist]

IMO: World First should ONLY be WITHOUT the buff, considering it is OPTIONAL.

Are you shitting me? why would you want to turn down help?

EDIT: In other words

Using flasks is optional.
Getting well fed is optional.
Enchanting is optional.
Gemming is optional.
Buffing the group is optional.
Wearing anything other than some RP gear from stratholme runs is optional.

They used everything they could get. It's a legit way to min/max, it's a legit kill.

Double EDIT:before anyone mentions it, don't throw Yogg Saron as your reason why. The mechanics are that way. Buffed by all four is the easy mode, and how much help you lose is proportional to how hard you want the encounter to be.

[mtdewisgood]

ok this might be crazy.. but on the opposite side of valithria theres a wierd door / wall thing could there maybe be another boss coming to ICC that drops the mount and pet?