Guess the new priest spells and changes

[Aziel]

Well maybe the new Spriest "nuke" could be a final timer value for MF so that when it finishes casting your MB does more damage...

Wait sorry I confused Spriest with mage my bad...

Ummm a free automatic 4th tick of MF if you channel the whole spell and don't clip the last tick? (Still only 3 ticks in the channel just a 4th "magical" tick gets tacked on like a SW)

On that note a full channel of MF could remove the backfire on SW to make it less risky that you'll end up blowing yourself up (13 stacks of instability and I wasn't paying attention leave me alone >.<)

Mind Flay could also have a chance (Maybe glyphed or talented) too refresh the cooldown on Mind Blast.

And yes it's all about the mind flay but it's the iconic shadow priest spell so why not ^_^.

[Maxpowr]

Besides the nerf to int in the disc tree, I am curious what they will do with all our spirit talents in the holy tree. No doubt Spiritual Guidance will get the axe and placed with some stupid "mastery" talent.

I don't think Blizz will add any new spells. Maybe add a few more fun glyphs. I know this would be OP but something like "While in Spirit of Redemption, you can resurrect your fallen allies." I mean you are gonna die, why not have the chance to raise someone else?

However, I do have a question that I am not sure it could be answered here. With the changes to cleanses/dispels, in particular the Shadow priest not being able to use abolish/cure disease in Shadowform, does that mean it will become a holy spell (since shadow priests can still cast disc spells in shadowform) and therefore have those talents related to those abilities moved to the holy tree?

[Irony]

I hear Power word: Barrier is coming ;D

[Lysdexic]

Terenas Menethil is a priest. Terenas Menethil is higher level than us. Terenas Menethil casts Mass Ressurection on us.
Therefore, we will get Mass Ressurection.

GIEF KTHXBAI YOU CANT SNIPE MY RESSES ANYMORE, I'LL SNIPE ALL OF YOURS.... AT THE SAME TIME!!111!

[Danner]

I'm wondering if we're getting a cheap heal in cataclysm.

FHeal is obviously our fast inefficient heal
GHeal is obviously our big expensive heal

Yes, I know that fheal is our most efficient heal, but that only says anything about the general cost of healing priest spells. It's still the most expensive heal in its class. We're kinda lacking something here if mana isn't going to bite us badly in cataclysm. And according to GC, it shouldn't? Maybe I'm misreading him, and by "we're not supposed to run oom if we use the right spells" actually means "we will run oom, but slightly slower if we use the cheap spells".

Can't really make any ups or downs about it tbh...

[walexia]

Terenas Menethil is a priest. Terenas Menethil is higher level than us. Terenas Menethil casts Mass Ressurection on us.
Therefore, we will get Mass Ressurection.

GIEF KTHXBAI YOU CANT SNIPE MY RESSES ANYMORE, I'LL SNIPE ALL OF YOURS.... AT THE SAME TIME!!111!

when i came over from guild wars i was confused for a short time thinking priests had "mass ressurect" too

[Abandon]

I'm wondering if we're getting a cheap heal in cataclysm.

FHeal is obviously our fast inefficient heal
GHeal is obviously our big expensive heal

Yes, I know that fheal is our most efficient heal, but that only says anything about the general cost of healing priest spells. It's still the most expensive heal in its class. We're kinda lacking something here if mana isn't going to bite us badly in cataclysm. And according to GC, it shouldn't? Maybe I'm misreading him, and by "we're not supposed to run oom if we use the right spells" actually means "we will run oom, but slightly slower if we use the cheap spells".

Can't really make any ups or downs about it tbh...

I thought the mose elegant solution would just be to give us new ranks of Heal. That can be the slow-ish, efficent heal, Greater will be the heavy hitter and Flash will be fast and inefficent.

[PriestLuna]

Divine Power Word: Shield
Rank 1
46% of base mana 40 yd range
3 second cast 10 minute cooldown

Draws on the soul of your party/raid members to shield them, absorbing 1265 damage. Lasts 30 sec. While the shield holds, spellcasting will not be interrupted by damage. Once shielded, the target cannot be shielded again for 15 sec.

At least that's what I would do. It sounds OP but wouldn't be much more than a Priest version of Divine Sacrifice. Basically a PW:S on your whole raid.

[iLive]

I am pretty sure there's going to be some changes around buff system as a Priest. Stamina, spirit and shadow resistance in one spell, just like Druids' (ex.).
I don't think they will add a heal that's a middle thing between Greater Heal and Flash Heal. What I do hope is that Blizzard will rally more on changes than additions (thinking in adding spells). I rather want them to make our current spells more interesting and fun. If we get a larger arsenal of spells, it's IMO becoming too much, which isn't needed. Sure we could use probably use some new spells, but adding something like "2sec cast, 10.000 heal" is not fun. Instead make some interesting ideas around buffing the spells we already have if you do xxx or when you cast xxx, then xxx will xxx.

[iLive]

Divine Power Word: Shield
Rank 1
46% of base mana 40 yd range
3 second cast 10 minute cooldown

Draws on the soul of your party/raid members to shield them, absorbing 1265 damage. Lasts 30 sec. While the shield holds, spellcasting will not be interrupted by damage. Once shielded, the target cannot be shielded again for 15 sec.

At least that's what I would do. It sounds OP but wouldn't be much more than a Priest version of Divine Sacrifice. Basically a PW:S on your whole raid.

It sounds far from fun. You cannot shield your raid again for 15 seconds with any Power Word: Shield (nor else will be able to), and it will be too good on 25 compared to too bad on 10/5 man.

[Deleted]

Shadow word: COMBAT RESSS

[PriestLuna]

Prayer of Power Word: Shield
Rank 1
20% of base mana 40 yd range
Instant cast 15 sec cooldown

Places a shield on the target, absorbing 2230 damage. Lasts 30 sec. When the shield is broken, Prayer of Power Word: Shield jumps to a party or raid member within 20 yards. Jumps up to 5 times and lasts 30 sec after each jump. This shield does not cause the Weakened Soul debuff, and can stack with other shielding effects such as Power Word: Shield, Divine Aegis, etc. This spell can only be placed on one target at a time.

Man I could make up Disc Priest spells all day long. Not so much for shadow/holy though.

[iLive]

Prayer of Power Word: Shield
Rank 1
20% of base mana 40 yd range
Instant cast 15 sec cooldown

Places a shield on the target, absorbing 2230 damage. Lasts 30 sec. When the shield is broken, Prayer of Power Word: Shield jumps to a party or raid member within 20 yards. Jumps up to 5 times and lasts 30 sec after each jump. This shield does not cause the Weakened Soul debuff, and can stack with other shielding effects such as Power Word: Shield, Divine Aegis, etc. This spell can only be placed on one target at a time.

Man I could make up Disc Priest spells all day long. Not so much for shadow/holy though.

Blizzard wants to get away from using buttons on CD reset, and this is yet another move for it. Not fun again. :s

[PriestLuna]

It sounds far from fun. You cannot shield your raid again for 15 seconds with any Power Word: Shield (nor else will be able to), and it will be too good on 25 compared to too bad on 10/5 man.

I doubt it. It's no different than what we do in 25s right now for raid dmg heavy fights, blanket the raid with shields. This would be great during a Tantrum from XT, when the little saplings explode on Freya hard mode, Whiteout on Toravon, Burning Breath for Koravon, Pungent Blight on Fester, sometime during the end of p3 on PP, 2nd air phase on BQL, and numerous places for Sindragosa & LK.

It would be great no doubt, but it's not like it's a spammable deal and it's srsly not much different in effect than Divine Sacrifice imo. If it's too OP you could add that it puts a Sated/Exhausted-like debuff on players for 10min or so to prevent multiple Disciplines abusing it in raids. Also, in my description I ranked down PW:S absorb power for a reason. It'd be like a half-strength PW:S, just on the whole raid.

[PriestLuna]

Blizzard wants to get away from using buttons on CD reset, and this is yet another move for it. Not fun again. :s

Why? Too much time management for people to watch one of their four spells on CD? I wasn't aware of Blizz's intentions with this.

[Ravasha]

Terenas Menethil is a priest. Terenas Menethil is higher level than us. Terenas Menethil casts Mass Ressurection on us.
Therefore, we will get Mass Ressurection.

GIEF KTHXBAI YOU CANT SNIPE MY RESSES ANYMORE, I'LL SNIPE ALL OF YOURS.... AT THE SAME TIME!!111!

No, you get that in your Guild Talent Tree.

[iLive]

I doubt it. It's no different than what we do in 25s right now for raid dmg heavy fights, blanket the raid with shields. This would be great during a Tantrum from XT, when the little saplings explode on Freya hard mode, Whiteout on Toravon, Burning Breath for Koravon, Pungent Blight on Fester, sometime during the end of p3 on PP, 2nd air phase on BQL, and numerous places for Sindragosa & LK.

It would be great no doubt, but it's not like it's a spammable deal and it's srsly not much different in effect than Divine Sacrifice imo. If it's too OP you could add that it puts a Sated/Exhausted-like debuff on players for 10min or so to prevent multiple Disciplines abusing it in raids. Also, in my description I ranked down PW:S absorb power for a reason. It'd be like a half-strength PW:S, just on the whole raid.

I didn't say OP. I said that the difference between using it on 10 and 25 man is large (~250% more effective in 25 than 10 man), so therefor a better suggestion would be for the group of 5 people or 5 random people. Then you would still be able to use shield on other targets.

Why? Too much time management for people to watch one of their four spells on CD? I wasn't aware of Blizz's intentions with this.

Blizzard doesn't want cooldowns to be spammed, but give them an effect that makes them better at some situations than on others, so the player can feel the "NOW IS THE TIME" effect. Therefor adding a spell like Prayer of Mending (which is casted on CD often) would be a stupid move, because they just stated they wanted to get away from it.

[Deleted]

They will need to make some interesting changes if they want me to buy the expansion.

Spriest burst will be hard for them to make. They wanted us to be able to get some instant damage, dp change was one of them. So I guess it's some kind of frosty bold we should start our rotation with, expensive but does some damage and then we can use it if silenced in shadow school.
I don't see what else they can do for us in shadow, and I know they wont do much cause, well, they are never generous to priests. I hope they do something to our mobility in pvp. One thing I would miss, since cataclysm lvl81 greens will be better than our icc gear we will lose our 4-set bonus and I hope they will make mind flay always be like the bonus is. We really need it.

For healing priests. Well, we know blizz prefer pallys and druids as healers so we won't get anything that makes us better than them. Holy needs more mana and they will make mana problems more common to healers so I guess holy is quite balanced already there. If holy will be fixed for rated bgs? That would be interesting but I don't know how they would do that but since druids are op bg healers they probably won't bother with holy there.

We all know holy pallys will get more healing spells. So barrier with bubbles to spread would be nice and might be the only thing disco might get a sight of. But pallys will still be best tank healers and hopefully disc could come in place with support tank + raid healing with same healing spells and bubbles for raid when bosses throw some burst. Bubbles would make disc better in rated battlegrounds as well and need that spot since holy priests never will be chosen in bg teams aiming somewhere.

So, not very positive this might seem. But we should know that blizzard is careful when it comes to the priestly class... they won't throw gold and roses all over our chars... they will nice and slowly give us some candy once in a while to make us satisfied so we pay them our monthly fee.

[Kelesti]

I thought the most elegant solution would just be to give us new ranks of Heal. That can be the slow-ish, efficent heal, Greater will be the heavy hitter and Flash will be fast and inefficent.

I was actually thinking this over myself, on my way to work Abandon. Now you, get out of my head D:

[OffC3nter]

i expect to see mass levitate.