What thread are you reading? You win -5 Internets for this off-topic post.Originally Posted by Torethyr
If I understand you correctly, and I think I do, your primary motivation for raiding in WoW is to be able to flex your e-peen that nobody really cares about. Cool story. I bought the star-shitting ponybird so that I could flaunt my IRL disposable income in-game (and to passively troll people who rage over its existence), so I say Blizzard should start selling more epic trollbait for real money. If they don't, it's because they hate me and my ilk. I mean obviously.
Back when I actually had the time to raid high-end content 6 nights per week, there was no "recognition" beyond getting some loot that was exceptionally hard for players to get. Besides that, the real fulfillment came not from flashing my shiny purples in a vain attempt to dig up some semblance of actual respect from anonymous children in a meaningless online game, but it came from actually completing difficult encounters after days, weeks, months of effort. This is not changing at all.
There is absolutely no motivation to run 25s in Cataclysm, unless of course you consider the fact that you will be gearing your guild faster in 25s than you will in 10s. Or do you only read selectively? Whatever you can skim off the top that provides sufficient reason to post some shitty, condescending, ignorant post on an Internet forum, I guess? Faster gearing translates to faster heroic progression. Also consider that people raid 25s because they like to. Someone's opinion of what makes a raid fun is not going to suddenly change simply due to an item equivalence adjustment. Maybe for a douchebag like you, but not for most normal people in this world. The point is that 10- or 25- should be a matter of choice, not a matter of "are we 1337 enough?" Some will disagree with this perspective, but the change indicates that most people agree with it - casuals and hardcore players alike.
The citation of HC LK 25 / 10 differences is completely irrelevant. ICC is not a Cataclysm raid and was not built with these design changes in mind.