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    Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Hello, i am a long time lurker and a...second or third time poster.

    First of all, here you go. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ng&cn=Bumstead

    So i recently acquired Bryntroll and respecced to the standard 0/17/54. I ran several simulations and it says my dps should be ~5100 dps with self buffs, so i head to the dummys and try it out. I pulled 3.7k dps with the standard rotations and using cooldowns as normal (ie. glove enchant+proccs+gargoyle). I don't understand why it is so low.

    Before Bryntroll i had http://www.wowhead.com/item=51022 and the standard spec of 17/0/54. I pulled ~4200 dps on the dummys. This is why i am confused, i should be pulling quite a bit more but i am not. ???

    Tl;dr. I got a new weapon and i respecced to 0/17/54 and do less dps than i did before. Help.

    Edit: Do not flame me please, i am trying to do everything to figure out why.
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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    DUMMY DPS IS FOR DUMMIES, seriously dummy dps means jack diddly cumquat

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Dummies are for perfecting the rhythm of your rotations, testing the uptime on procs and cooldown usage.

    Never, ever for damage purposes.
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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    I pull about 5.5k DPS on a dummy, and 9.5k in a 25 man raid. Dummies have a wrong armor amount (screws with arp), spell resistances, and there are always other dummies near by for various abilities to hit.

    Do a VoA every week and test there.

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    the DK in my guild pulls 10-11k but he also dual wields.

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    what the guy above me means is that dummies dont register necrosis or bcb properly, since the frost subspec relies on these more than the blood subspec that could be 1 reason your dps went down on the dummy, as well as less of your total damage coming from ss which makes this loss seem even higher. Main thing is dont test your dps on dummies, but the loss your seeing shouldnt carry over into raids.

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    i do 5k dps when i use my trink and my gargoyle on a dummy
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ang&cn=Argaros
    i dont know whats ur problem but im way under ur gear level

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    3.7k on a dummy is just...well, you might want to change your gems, shoulder enchants, and level Enchanting to 400 so you can get 40ap on your rings for a slightly dps increase. Otherwise, read the DK guide 3.3.3 on ensidia.com. This is not flaming if that's what you're thinking

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Our dps is fine, dummy numbers don't mean anything.

    Edit: just checked your armoury, fix your gems and enchants and replace needle encrusted scorpion with something that isn't terrible if you want to be taken seriously.

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    yea...so does anybody else have problems with some stuff with dummies?
    my necrosis, unholy blight, wandering pleague and possibly more hit 1's

    my friend says it doesn't for him so I was kind of confused lol

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Is your 2 handed axe skill maxxed?

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Is your 2 Hand Axe skill maxxed?

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    DK's dps is low and druid is bad healer!!!
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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haavok
    what the guy above me means is that dummies dont register necrosis or bcb properly, since the frost subspec relies on these more than the blood subspec that could be 1 reason your dps went down on the dummy, as well as less of your total damage coming from ss which makes this loss seem even higher. Main thing is dont test your dps on dummies, but the loss your seeing shouldnt carry over into raids.
    This. And put epic gems in your gear, lvl enchanting to 400, and you'll be absolutely fine. The only other thing that I can think of that would cost you a significant chunk of DPS is if you mistimed/failed to stack your CD's in the proper order. But without a log or parse, there's no way for us to tell you more.

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Quote Originally Posted by DSquared
    yea...so does anybody else have problems with some stuff with dummies?
    my necrosis, unholy blight, wandering pleague and possibly more hit 1's

    my friend says it doesn't for him so I was kind of confused lol
    Those abilities don't work with overkill damage, go find a boss level dummy that isn't at one health if you want that stuff to work.

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    Thank you to everyone! i really appreciate that none of you flammed (flamed?) me (atleast not horribly). I am glad you all came to my rescue, :P
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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    youre doing it wrong

    if youre doing 25 mans and only pulling 5-6k dps something is wrong

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Blood DPS is always good for burst . I usually go 11k-12k (Trinket + Blood Fury + Hysteria + DRW + ERW = Win) but drop down to about 6-7k after a while on most fights . Dummy DPS is about 7k with Cooldowns the armour is fucked up on them though .
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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal
    Dummies are for perfecting the rhythm of your rotations, testing the uptime on procs and cooldown usage.

    Never, ever for damage purposes.
    This.. You dont have the debuffs on the target and whatnot you would have in a raid.. Use the Dummies to pratice in rotations and test addons for Cooldowns and all that.. BUt nothing else.. Pug VoA or start a NAxx raid to test a new spec.. Its usually what I do

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    Re: Death Knight dps- insanely low?

    eh patch doesnt have enough HP any more to get any real accurate baselines imo. The perfect baselines for any spec would currently be a fight that is damn near 3 minutes long. "Keeps cooldowns about on par with each other."

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