Goblin totems

[loveshack]

Anyone feel that goblin totems just dont fit in with the whole shaman theme? Shamans are supposed to be in tune with nature, not machanical, electrical shit.

[Dazzler]

On one hand I really like them (except for the metal swirl they stand on) and on the other hand i agree with the op. It doesn't fit what we know of Shaman lore, however Goblins may have a unique mechanical way of using the Elements.

Not all races/class share the same methodology when it comes to thier powers ... e.g. Troll Priests get their power from the Loa, Human priests from the Holy Light, Draenei from the Naaru.

[Barado Black]

It seems to me that they are forcibly taking the elements with their contraptions

[Deleted]

Anyone feel that goblin totems just dont fit in with the whole shaman theme? Shamans are supposed to be in tune with nature, not machanical, electrical shit.

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if they hadnt been mechanical looking... i would've made a QQ moar post

[Klokie]

Goblins...

just saying it

[loveshack]

It seems to me that they are forcibly taking the elements with their contraptions

OR...slipping roofies in their drinks...and holding them as sex slaves?

OT: Its not about forcing elements to do what goblins tell them to, but the whole shaman theme is being ruined with goblin totems.

Just my 2cents.

[Dead_MAX]

yes, they are insaly awful.

[Diurden]

just like how paladins are ment to be in tune with the light, and yet blood elf paladins stole the power for themselves.
The goblins probably payed elementals for their powers or enslaved them.

[Esrgoode]

LOL.. <-- Old Warhammer fantasy player here... I am so excited by Goblin shammies you can not imagine.. If there is a gobbo warrior.. Ball and chain with racial "fanatic" needs to be implimented also...

Esr

[Baobot]

On one hand I really like them (except for the metal swirl they stand on) and on the other hand i agree with the op. It doesn't fit what we know of Shaman lore, however Goblins may have a unique mechanical way of using the Elements.

Not all races/class share the same methodology when it comes to thier powers ... e.g. Troll Priests get their power from the Loa, Human priests from the Holy Light, Draenei from the Naaru.

You're assuming that the Naaru, the holy light and loa ain't the same entity :P What if it is? We could all be drawing from the same power, just in different ways.

[Trillivm]

like I said in another thread:

"Tauren get sun-worshipping Druids/Shamans, who are called Paladins for gameplay reasons.
I suppose, Goblins get a Tinker/Engineer class, who generates electric bolts, uses flamethrowers and such. For gameplay reasons it is called Shaman."

You're assuming that the Naaru, the holy light and loa ain't the same entity :P What if it is? We could all be drawing from the same power, just in different ways.

loa and the light are much different entities. Loa are the beast gods we see in ZG/ZA/ZD/GD. they use light's theme purely for gameplay reasons.
Same goes for Undead Priests and the Cult of Forgotten Shadow.
Night Elves do call upon the light, but that's not Holy Light, that's the light of Elune.
Tauren will call upon the light of the Sun.

[Dazzler]

just like how paladins are ment to be in tune with the light, and yet blood elf paladins stole the power for themselves.
The goblins probably payed elementals for their powers or enslaved them.

Blood Elf Paladins (Blood Knights) used to steal their power from a Naaru, but now they get their Holy Light from the Sunwell (which was re-ignited by that same Naaru).

[Panoramixe]

One way to be in tune with the elements is sitting on a fire, jumping in water and hitting your head against a wall (aka the way trolls, orcs an tauren do it)

A second way is measuring the elements through the use of instruments. To understand them and work with them in a more technological way, while still accepting the fact there is a mythical energy bound to them you can't fully measure (yet).

[Aks]

I mean to me, it makes more sense for Goblin totems to be "manufactured". I mean, Draenei totems are like weird Exodar-like alien glowy things, sup with that nature? But the important thing is that it makes sense.

[chrisnumbers]

All totems have to be created somehow, they don't just grow out of the ground. Anything could be a totem if you want it to be... like axes.

[Deleted]

All totems have to be created somehow, they don't just grow out of the ground. Anything could be a totem if you want it to be... like axes.

Even axes would make more sense than that.
I agree with the OP, but I realised that even before they showed the totems.

[Diurden]

Blood Elf Paladins (Blood Knights) used to steal their power from a Naaru, but now they get their Holy Light from the Sunwell (which was re-ignited by that same Naaru).

random lore for no reason? i don't see how that relates to what i said at all

[Crow_eyeS]

random lore for no reason? i don't see how that relates to what i said at all

It just means that the goblins have the same approach to gains such type of power.
They use theyr knowledge in technology to "contain" the power of the elements, don't forget that in the beginning (before the curse of flesh), "we" all were supposed to be some kind of mechanical being, so the possibility for technology to be able to harness elements it's there IMO, even if it's not "titan's tech".

edit: typo.

[loveshack]

It just means that the goblins have the same approach to gains such type of power.
They use theyr knowledge in technology to "contain" the power of the elements, don't forget that in the beginning (before the curse of flesh), "we" all were supposed to be some kind of mechanical being, so the possibility for technology to be able to harness elements it's there IMO, even if it's not "titan's tech".

edit: typo.

Shamans are supposed to control nature with their powers, not because they can make a machanical doohickey. This goblin bulshit ruins shaman lore imo.

[Diurden]

Shamans are supposed to control nature with their powers, not because they can make a machanical doohickey. This goblin bulshit ruins shaman lore imo.

But arent they doing just that? controlling nature? The only difference between technology and magic is understanding.