Why do people target single healers in BG?

[ShellPhown]

EDIT: People are clearly not reading the post or interpreting it completly wrong, I'm not at all trying to brag about survival or anything, I'll copy Dennace's clearification:

What OP means:
There are 5/6 enemies in midfield
Your flag carrier needs to come through midfield
But there are 5/6 players there
Which means 5/6 people who could target your flag carrier
Said players are not yet targeting the flag carrier
OP then splits up from Flag Carrier
OP runs into group of enemies
Group of enemies attack him
OP runs in opposite direction to flag carrier
Enemies chase him in the wrong direction
Flag carrier makes it past midfield
Enemies are like LOLZ WE KEEL HEELER!
Enemies were distracted and didn't go after flag carrier
Flag Carrier captures flag

Like I stated multiple times before I'm not saying I'm immortal because I clearly say I pop all my CD's to take it and still last about 20 seconds, also stated that you need to take the average BGer's gear into account and that they aren't all 10 running around in full wrathful/icc277 gear.

The question was why people don't just ignore the healer doing nothing and run away to the EFC which IS NOT RUNNING NEXT TO ME. The decent answers I got were:

Healers are hard to kill, creates anger, people take that anger out by beating on them

and

in your scenario i'd either go with really annoyed at the healer and just wanting payback, or completely oblivious there was a FC running up their backdoor(which also tends to happen a little too often )

Thanks for the answers and hf trolling in this (now) dead thread.

ORIGINAL POST:
This is really something I want to know, i personally play Resto druid & Disc Priest in pvp, and one of the things I just love to do is jump in a group of 4 enemies and tank as long as possible. The thing I don't understand though is why do people keep attacking? I do this sort of stuff to keep people bussy and it works 95% of the time, like when my FC is crossing the field and I see 4 enemies finishing beating up a friendly player, I jump in them & hot/shield/PoM etc blow defensive CD's to try and last as long as possible while the FC runs past 40 yards away.

So really why?

[Matthew]

This is really something I want to know, i personally play Resto druid & Disc Priest in pvp, and one of the things I just love to do is jump in a group of 4 enemies and tank as long as possible. The thing I don't understand though is why do people keep attacking? I do this sort of stuff to keep people bussy and it works 95% of the time, like when my FC is crossing the field and I see 4 enemies finishing beating up a friendly player, I jump in them & hot/shield/PoM etc blow defensive CD's to try and last as long as possible while the FC runs past 40 yards away.

So really why?

I've had this happen as well and it makes no sense. Keep in mind, you're playing BGs so you'll get many random tards doing random things.

[Spurmwhale]

because there is nothing they can do against a resto druid unless they have fear to prevent you from healing. i'm in this situation a lot where i HAVE to burst down the resto druid first, to even attempt to kill the flag runner. its just as bad when there are like 2-3 pally healers or something all dispelling cc's from one another and keeping a flag runner up. when you can't CC, you're only choice is to try and kill the healers. game balance can be so fucked up in these situations since most healers can dispel off each other, they aren't easy to kill to say the least, and generally have to be killed first in most situations.

but yeah this happens a lot in WSG. not enough dps to focus fire kill the flag runner, so you have to go after the healers especially if they aren't prone to CC's(resto druids) with instant heals. so frustrating too, since the game is balanced around 3's in a box by these retard dev's which don't account for 2+ multi healer situations.

[Jest]

in WSG, they'll beat on you because they'd rather you heal yourself than the FC. Personally.. I main a rogue so my Wound Poison will prevent you from "tanking" very long.

When on my Shaman alt, I just Purge you all day and you drop super fast to the dps that you just jumped into.

[ShellPhown]

you understand that I go sit under them so they don't hit my FC and that makes it 6vs9 where the FC is situated right?

[Jest]

you understand that I go sit under them so they don't hit my FC and that makes it 6vs9 where the FC is situated right?

I understand that those numbers aren't accurate because the likelihood of one entire team escorting their FC while the entirety of the other team is trying to kill him is incredibly slim. Even if you have two premades against each other there's like to be at least 1 or 2 stragglers off doing something else.

[rugglee]

you got just some retard and no you are not invincible a stun or cs of 4 sec is enough to down you at 4 dps so stop saying you are the best, or try to dont take like exemple 4 guys geared frostsavages to down u.......

[Cheddabezze]

you got just some retard and no you are not invincible a stun or cs of 4 sec is enough to down you at 4 dps so stop saying you are the best, or try to dont take like exemple 4 guys geared frostsavages to down u.......

lolwut?

[Shadowysaint]

Healers are hard to kill, creates anger, people take that anger out by beating on them

[Team Frosty]

The thread isn't even about that. It's about what the title is.

[Guesswho69]

I don't understand, are there no rogues/shamans/warriors/death knights/mages/warlocks in the groups where your jumping into?

[scruffiebear]

I love when healers try and do this my main is a shadow priest, So I just dot them up fear them silence them when they come out of fear and watch them die because they thought they could heal themselves through it all.

Not to mention, Good job looking like a bad healer. Spamming heals on yourself while people beat down your flag carrier. I'm sure the people killing you we're laughing at you.

[ShellPhown]

Healers are hard to kill, creates anger, people take that anger out by beating on them

Look this was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Still kind of sad in my oppinion, but I guess fair trade I statisfy them by letting them kill me, I statisfy myself by giving my team a (imo) huge advantage

I don't understand, are there no rogues/shamans/warriors/death knights/mages/warlocks in the groups where your jumping into?

Both resto druid and priest hardly hardcast (I call it a hardcast when you see a castbar, instant is the opposite) so both are not very prone to CS/kick etc, generally I can also expect that not everyone of the enemies is going to be in full wrathful/277 gear, priest can still use a 2tick penance that will almost never be interupted.
Offensive dispells + MS are what get me down faster than general but I often don't get dispelled (lol we're 4 lavaburst will do it), now that i think of it mages dispell me more often that shamans.
Also, hot's tick during stuns/silence and swiftmend naturesgrasp & natures swiftness=>healingtouch prevent me from really having to hardcast from the start.

What's with the DK's and warlocks though? Or are you trying to tell me that the lock should banish out lifeblooms because this is a BG and not arena we're talking about.

---------- Post added 2010-06-29 at 10:56 PM ----------

I understand that those numbers aren't accurate because the likelihood of one entire team escorting their FC while the entirety of the other team is trying to kill him is incredibly slim. Even if you have two premades against each other there's like to be at least 1 or 2 stragglers off doing something else.

Not to mention, Good job looking like a bad healer. Spamming heals on yourself while people beat down your flag carrier. I'm sure the people killing you we're laughing at you.

You are both thinking around the same thing and seem to try to talk-good beating me up.

If there's 10 people on each team, and 4 are on me midfield, say 15 seconds because I got to refresh lifebloom and got an insta healigtouch off, all ofcourse during barkskin, then those 4 people are behind while my 9 other mates have the chance to go and assist friendly FC in the hopes they're not beating up a healer 4v1 elsewhere.

If you want to use the 2 on my team wandering around, which I can agree on, then you should also count yours in.

Assuming everyone together it's 9v6 which is a HUGE advantage, chances are big the 4 people beating me up will be backing up the remainder 2 people that actually went for the FC.

[scruffiebear]

I love fighting druids like this as well, First I psychic horror then dot them up completely, fear them when they come out of that melt them with mindflay when fear is wearing off I silence them and mindblast sw: d. Then I wave at them while they're dieing because they thought they we're good enough to pull this stunt off.

But still, 4 people killing you. 8 people left besides the flag carrier accounting for the 2 people wandering around on your side leaves it to be 7 vs 6. Also without heals on the flag carrier more than likely they would still be able to burn the fc down. Unless your fighting a bunch of people in craftable blues.

[ShellPhown]

- Suddenly I'm the only healer
- The FC doesn't do anything but runnnnn!
- You assume you have all your CD's with having none whiles clearly this is still a BG and only do this when I have a decent chance CD whise (barkskin is obv a must lol)

You're probably not the average geared BG player and know atleast how to use some of your abilities, but we're talking about the majority here that mindlessly zerges and pops bladestorm when I'm on 3% HP. I was trying to figure why the mindlessness but I got what I needed with Shadowysaint's reply, thanks

[wheresmywoft]

It's simply the type of people you will run into in BGs.

[Spurmwhale]

you understand that I go sit under them so they don't hit my FC and that makes it 6vs9 where the FC is situated right?

sounds like you're one of them raid boss healers. i just assumed they initially started on the FC, and jumped to you since they couldn't drop him, which happens often especially with druids because they aren't the easiest to CC(which only leaves killing them), and you said it yourself, you rarely have to hard cast(so its not very likely you're open to lockout).

if they just jumped on you instead of the FC, maybe there was another explanation but you'd know it more than we would. maybe they all realized you have to go down first before the FC from the last time he capped? maybe they thought it was hopeless, and to just kill the raid boss healer once before the games over? theres a lot of possibilities here...

all i know is when i focus on a FC, and can't drop him with the other DPS, to overcome the healing, i focus on the healers. i try CC first, but with druids it amounts to either killing them or trying to slow them down enough where they can't help their FC who is maybe/hopefully running ahead where other dps can get him while i slowed their raid boss healer down enough from helping. i'm pretty marginalized vs raid boss healing druids tho. its so frustrating...

[Kabasue]

Sounds like the OP's ego could solo a raid boss all by thier little lonsome

[Deleted]

I took this that you move in between the FC and the opposition about to attack him to distract them, I know some people seemed to completely miss that point, maybe I'm wrong. As for the explanation, it's either that they just kill the closest thing they can or you've been such a nuisance they just want you dead.

Edit: I do the same thing, every time, if I'm not on a healer I'll do it as a dps and just keep them as far from the FC as possible, even if it means peeling off their graveyard if the FC goes ramp. Don't know why people keep saying about your ego, it's clearly a selfless interception to prevent your teammates death.

[Deleted]

What OP means:
There are 5/6 enemies in midfield
Your flag carrier needs to come through midfield
But there are 5/6 players there
Which means 5/6 people who could target your flag carrier
Said players are not yet targeting the flag carrier
OP then splits up from Flag Carrier
OP runs into group of enemies
Group of enemies attack him
OP runs in opposite direction to flag carrier
Enemies chase him in the wrong direction
Flag carrier makes it past midfield
Enemies are like LOLZ WE KEEL HEELER!
Enemies were distracted and didn't go after flag carrier
Flag Carrier captures flag