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    Kiss your T10 goodbye..... :)

    Basically it takes almost 33 rating to equal 1% haste at level 80... but at 85??? 192!

    Even the best T10 277 gear will drop to 1/6 of what it was with regards to %hit, %haste abnd %crit


    Combat ratings in Cataclysm Beta:

    Ratings per 1%

    Level 80
    Hit (Spell) 26.232
    Crit 45.906
    Haste 32.79

    Level 81
    Hit (Spell)37.357
    Crit 65.374
    Haste 46.696

    Level 82
    Hit (Spell) 53.199
    Crit 93.099
    Haste 66.499

    Level 83
    Hit (Spell) 75.76
    Crit 132.581
    Haste 94.701

    Level 84
    Hit (Spell) 107.89
    Crit 188.807
    Haste 134.862

    Level 85
    Hit (Spell) 153.645
    Crit 268.878
    Haste 192.056
    Last edited by AuthurDent; 2010-07-01 at 12:42 AM.

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    wasnt t10 going to get upgraded so we d be able to keep it till 85

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    /throw in flames with t9 t8 t7 t6 t5 t4

    /puts on new gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCherriesLover View Post
    wasnt t10 going to get upgraded so we d be able to keep it till 85
    No. Why would they do such a thing? That doesn't even make sense.

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    SOme stats will be upgraded with some stats.. nut not much... def not any of the % combat stats... just some spell power/etc...

    Here is a repost of 78-80 dungeon BLUES!!!!



    ---------- Post added 2010-07-01 at 12:47 AM ----------

    And 81-82 level quest green....


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    items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

    I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finalwish View Post
    items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

    I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.
    Remember, this stuff is just Alpha/Beta stuff, some stats are bound to be changed before everything goes live.

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    Wow, didn't they say that the gear jump from wotlk to cata wasn't going to be very large? Granted Shadowmourn has the proc and sockets but still a 81-82 green may replace a 80 legendary? I hoped that 80 raid gear would be useful until at least 85 normal dungeons. That doesn't seem to be the case now though i am kinda sad.

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    IT's true it could change/be tweaked..

    But to be honest.. this IS what they want... they felt it was getting TOO complex to determine what gear piece to use.. which was better, etc...

    They simplified the gear stats (which is also why they did away with some of the stats entirely...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblind View Post
    No. Why would they do such a thing? That doesn't even make sense.
    BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
    you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained

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    Currently they'd have to double every stat on T10 gear to make it remotely viable at 85 and I just don't see that happening. It seems Blizzard wants everyone to replace all their gear.

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    Dude facking gearing is HALF the fun of this game... enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCherriesLover View Post
    BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
    you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained
    Not true, people complained about that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finalwish View Post
    items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

    I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.
    Items with blue names don't really need to feel epic. There's a different color for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCherriesLover View Post
    BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
    you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained
    Yes, actually, that does make sense. Expansions are supposed to be gear resets.

    And as for BC raids in Vanilla epics... Heh. No.
    Last edited by Taen; 2010-07-01 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCherriesLover View Post
    BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
    you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained
    People did complain, and even if they didn't... Blizzard obviously isn't happy with that situation. This is them rectifying it.
    People say the game is too easy, and that they want things to matter. Well here' the upshot of that. You can't bitch about the game being too easy and then turn around and complain when they make it a little more difficult.

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    There has to be something wrong with that 1350 stam cape, nothing even compares to it.

    Just look at the new Epic craftable lvl 85 2hander, it only has 600 something!

    And you get the cape at lvl 78! WHAT THE HELL!

    Just think of what the tanking stuff in the first tier will give o.O

    Tanks will be rocking 100k health in no time... Awesome!

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    Sadly.. yes... yes they can complain.. and will... pfffffffttttt.

    ---------- Post added 2010-07-01 at 01:18 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by sersouce View Post
    There has to be something wrong with that 1350 stam cape, nothing even compares to it.

    Just look at the new Epic craftable lvl 85 2hander, it only has 600 something!

    And you get the cape at lvl 78! WHAT THE HELL!
    That is indeed a simple typo in the stats of that cape... it was supposed and is now... 135 stam

  18. #18
    Aw poop, would have loved that for my tank, but yeah 13k+ health from one item would be stupidly broken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finalwish View Post
    items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

    I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.
    '

    Not to me, having over 9000 uneccesary green stats makes it feel less epic.
    Back to the old style of stats FTW!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyTheCherriesLover View Post
    BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
    you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained
    Last expansions gear should mean nothing in new expansions. Accept it or leave.
    Finally a proper gear reset!

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    Quote Originally Posted by revasky View Post
    Wow, didn't they say that the gear jump from wotlk to cata wasn't going to be very large? Granted Shadowmourn has the proc and sockets but still a 81-82 green may replace a 80 legendary? I hoped that 80 raid gear would be useful until at least 85 normal dungeons. That doesn't seem to be the case now though i am kinda sad.
    Melee weapons will always be the first to go,
    because the dps value on the weapon carries much more weight than the random stats,
    even if the actual stats on the shitty blue/green weapons aren't impressive compared to your old epic weapon you'll still want to upgrade to them at some point just for the higher dps value.
    Melee will be replacing their ilvl 277 weapons with blues way before replacing any t10. (shadowmourne might survive until 85 because of the proc)

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