Kiss your T10 goodbye..... :)

[AuthurDent]

Basically it takes almost 33 rating to equal 1% haste at level 80... but at 85??? 192!

Even the best T10 277 gear will drop to 1/6 of what it was with regards to %hit, %haste abnd %crit


Combat ratings in Cataclysm Beta:

Ratings per 1%

Level 80
Hit (Spell) 26.232
Crit 45.906
Haste 32.79

Level 81
Hit (Spell)37.357
Crit 65.374
Haste 46.696

Level 82
Hit (Spell) 53.199
Crit 93.099
Haste 66.499

Level 83
Hit (Spell) 75.76
Crit 132.581
Haste 94.701

Level 84
Hit (Spell) 107.89
Crit 188.807
Haste 134.862

Level 85
Hit (Spell) 153.645
Crit 268.878
Haste 192.056

[JohnnyTheCherriesLover]

wasnt t10 going to get upgraded so we d be able to keep it till 85

[GennGreymane]

/kiss

/throw in flames with t9 t8 t7 t6 t5 t4

/puts on new gear

[snowblind]

wasnt t10 going to get upgraded so we d be able to keep it till 85

No. Why would they do such a thing? That doesn't even make sense.

[AuthurDent]

SOme stats will be upgraded with some stats.. nut not much... def not any of the % combat stats... just some spell power/etc...

Here is a repost of 78-80 dungeon BLUES!!!!



---------- Post added 2010-07-01 at 12:47 AM ----------

And 81-82 level quest green....

[Finalwish]

items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.

[Zaabo]

items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.

Remember, this stuff is just Alpha/Beta stuff, some stats are bound to be changed before everything goes live.

[revasky]

Wow, didn't they say that the gear jump from wotlk to cata wasn't going to be very large? Granted Shadowmourn has the proc and sockets but still a 81-82 green may replace a 80 legendary? I hoped that 80 raid gear would be useful until at least 85 normal dungeons. That doesn't seem to be the case now though i am kinda sad.

[AuthurDent]

IT's true it could change/be tweaked..

But to be honest.. this IS what they want... they felt it was getting TOO complex to determine what gear piece to use.. which was better, etc...

They simplified the gear stats (which is also why they did away with some of the stats entirely...)

[JohnnyTheCherriesLover]

No. Why would they do such a thing? That doesn't even make sense.

BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained

[Verygrim]

Currently they'd have to double every stat on T10 gear to make it remotely viable at 85 and I just don't see that happening. It seems Blizzard wants everyone to replace all their gear.

[AuthurDent]

Dude facking gearing is HALF the fun of this game... enjoy!

[Fojos]

BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained

Not true, people complained about that as well.

[Taen]

items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.

Items with blue names don't really need to feel epic. There's a different color for that.

BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained

Yes, actually, that does make sense. Expansions are supposed to be gear resets.

And as for BC raids in Vanilla epics... Heh. No.

[snowblind]

BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained

People did complain, and even if they didn't... Blizzard obviously isn't happy with that situation. This is them rectifying it.
People say the game is too easy, and that they want things to matter. Well here' the upshot of that. You can't bitch about the game being too easy and then turn around and complain when they make it a little more difficult.

[sersouce]

There has to be something wrong with that 1350 stam cape, nothing even compares to it.

Just look at the new Epic craftable lvl 85 2hander, it only has 600 something!

And you get the cape at lvl 78! WHAT THE HELL!

Just think of what the tanking stuff in the first tier will give o.O

Tanks will be rocking 100k health in no time... Awesome!

[AuthurDent]

Sadly.. yes... yes they can complain.. and will... pfffffffttttt.

---------- Post added 2010-07-01 at 01:18 AM ----------

There has to be something wrong with that 1350 stam cape, nothing even compares to it.

Just look at the new Epic craftable lvl 85 2hander, it only has 600 something!

And you get the cape at lvl 78! WHAT THE HELL!

That is indeed a simple typo in the stats of that cape... it was supposed and is now... 135 stam

[sersouce]

Aw poop, would have loved that for my tank, but yeah 13k+ health from one item would be stupidly broken

[Winfernal]

items look so boring in cata, 2 rows of stats 2 rows of special stuff.

I miss having like 10 rows of stuff, made the item feel more epic.

'

Not to me, having over 9000 uneccesary green stats makes it feel less epic.
Back to the old style of stats FTW!

BS greens that are better then ICC stuff dont make sense mate
you used to be able to use end game epics of vanilla and tbc up to starter raids in previous expensions and nobody complained

Last expansions gear should mean nothing in new expansions. Accept it or leave.
Finally a proper gear reset!

[tremulant]

Wow, didn't they say that the gear jump from wotlk to cata wasn't going to be very large? Granted Shadowmourn has the proc and sockets but still a 81-82 green may replace a 80 legendary? I hoped that 80 raid gear would be useful until at least 85 normal dungeons. That doesn't seem to be the case now though i am kinda sad.

Melee weapons will always be the first to go,
because the dps value on the weapon carries much more weight than the random stats,
even if the actual stats on the shitty blue/green weapons aren't impressive compared to your old epic weapon you'll still want to upgrade to them at some point just for the higher dps value.
Melee will be replacing their ilvl 277 weapons with blues way before replacing any t10. (shadowmourne might survive until 85 because of the proc)