Warriors will dead...

[Super Awesome Mojo]

troll.

[Zka]

Yeah I'm sure Blizzard needs YOUR ideas on a forum they don't read.
Also I'm sure Blizzard won't rebalance classes, so warriors will be useless.
Sure.
I'm also sure that the OP is very smart.

[(Insert Name Here)]

People said that wow will die after BS was to be released… Did that happen? No.
Before making blind guesses on OMG MY CLASS WILL DIE IN NEXT XPACK why don't you wait for at least the new talent trees? While your ideas may be interesting on some note, the QQ surrounding them put me off.

---------- Post added 2010-07-11 at 03:24 PM ----------

Thats my point, sorry if i didnt't explaine too well, i'm watching the F1. ArP its very limited to what classes it beifits. MM hunters, Arms/Fury warriors and Blood DK's and maybe feral druids. As blood is no longer DPS, that leaves ArP a pretty OP stat for only 2 classes.

Combat rogues too btw

[Deleted]

2/10

poor trollz will dead

[malt0602]

Someone played too much God of War

[Direpanda]

One of the best RP posts I've ever seen.

I'm not sure he spelled a SINGLE WORD correctly!

[Zamph]

while the Fury warrior shows up for battle drunk and half clothed.

I lol'd when GC said that.

[LethalGT]

Eh... 4/10

[Sethbob]

What the fuck did I just read?

[Screwtape]

I don't know why hunters and dks have a bad rep. Seems like warriors complain incessantly over nothing.

[Deleted]

That was hard to read. I can't even remember what you tried to say.

[Lethiun]

sorry for not contributing to the thread but.. this is hilarious xD
Thanks ^^

friendly spikes of death -chuckle-

[Kilpi]

Yeah I'm sure Blizzard needs YOUR ideas on a forum they don't read.

Although they actually do. They don't write here under Blizzard's name but they've said it themselves, they do read "the biggest fansite forums". MMO-Champion being one of them.

[Nielah]

Oh shi, my head. :#

[Chomag7]

Hurr durr derp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dvSlvZLG8

[deathtakes]

while the Fury warrior shows up for battle drunk and half clothed. (reckless) (bluepost piece)

Take away whirlwind as normal rotation and you take away everything that defines warriors, spamming it on aoe with no target restriction is just another stupid aoe skill, which nobody will talent anyway, with cc getting more meaning in cata whirlwind wont be op anyway anymore.

Instead they are giving us stupid mechanics and not fun talents which where never cool.

Whirlwind is fury
mortal strike is arms

bt is not fury is just some stupid i hit you and get life thing
overpower is arms as exxecute is. it just fits the arms theme

Bladestorm fits fury but is so good in pvp that arms needs it.

Take away whirlwind and you take away what defines a fury (circle swing mindlessly) warrior.

keep it and give us more ww like stuff

Here some ideas:

Headnut

The Warrior smashes his head against the target, paralyzing players for 5 seconds, or increasing the chance to proc proc slam by 70% of of heroic strikes for the next 8 seconds(pve).

friendly spikes of death

the warrior uses the spikes on his armor to inflikt heavy dmg, to one target by jumping on it and hugging it.

Zonk

smashing the target with both fits creating a thunderclap and smashing the target to the ground (shielbash for all stances but 40 sec cD)

herkulic strength

The weapons the warrior wields suddenly become all light in his hands, attack speed is increased by 30% (additional to flurry)
as long as the warrior has more than 30% health.

God pierces and strikes

The warrior punches one of his weapons thourgh the opponent, taking the other in both hands and peforming a furious strike (100% crit chance on both hits)
This could replace whirlwind while giving bt the ww cd and giving god pierces and strikes the cD of bt(because its extremly powerfull.
The 100% crit chance is to boost warrior dmg in early lvls as well as boost rage. Endgame crit chance feels like 100% anyway.

With the nerfing of arpen warriors will need some op mechanics because right now whe are the class the will be hit most come cata.

Warrior nerfs: Come cata--->

Arpen (greatest impact on warriors)
Rage wont be infinite anymore in pve
we need assloads more hit because of the new hs mechanic, no yellow attacking on any second
new rage mechanics will make us use shouts and all the other skills more often, which will take away a gcd
no free aoe dmg anymore
whirlwind as our best or second best attack is gone , while the new ones we have now are sh t
increaes dmg crit etc talents are gone (will hurt us alot)
warrior threat will be insane (no minus threat talents anymore, while not having a reset)
no good scaling with gear anymore because rage impact is gone
with worgen every class will have our mobility
enrage will punish us for capping rage (minus rage plus dmg ratio is terrible)
new skills suck, just look at them
fury mastery bonus sucks, no enrage increases dmg beside death wishg/ and the sucky one where we have to get dmg which doesnt proc from aoe
we wont be able to skill wrecking crew anymore , so increasing enrage effeckts will suck. If we dont have a 100% uptime dmg increasing enrage



My dk is at lvl 73 rith now... and i hate questing

I can't believe I read all of that. I feel dirty. You didn't state weather or not you are actually in the BETA, so I'm going to guess that most if not all of your concerns are based on here-say and rumours. I am in the BETA and I just checked if anything has changed. Nothing has.

The old talent trees that aren't going to be used are still in effect. No one knows what the new trees will look like so crying "warriors will dead" (lol) is pretty premature.

The no arp kinda sucks but at the same time there was little to no arp in BC and warriors were fine then. Also I'm sure we will be comensated if our damage is low.

The WW change isn't a huge deal. The idea is to WW for 4 or more targets and Cleave for 3 or less.

Rage normalization is an extremely good thing as it will make warriors easier for blizz to balance. Rather than warriors sucking ass when you first hit 85 then being godly when you have BiS.

Inner rage: when you hit 100 rage you do 50% more damage at 15% more rage cost to abilities, lasts for 7 seconds or until you drop below 30 rage. It seems however the 50% increased damage is not working at this time.

The new skills don't suck because there are none. Warriors are the only class in the beta that don't have any new skills in the spell book. (yes you can see all of the spells and abilities available to your class wether or not your have learned them yet) It would seem that all the QQ over the warrior preview changed the minds of devs, hopefully. Heroic leap needs to die IMO.

This post is just a bunch of QQ over nothing. Stop trying to fear monger other people into making more QQ posts.

In the future, maybe later today I'll make a post in the warrior forum of all the changes from live to beta that I have noticed.

EDIT: no need to post changes as they can all be found under the warrior class in the cata changes. Only thing worth noting I guess is that rend and deep wounds dots can critically hit.

[Naikon]

I remember from Vanilla when Warriors basically spammed Heroic Strike and they topped charts. miss those days.

[Flaks]

People saying OMG VICTORY RUSH AWSOME HEALING.

Think again peoples. NO ONE specs into or uses abilities based off of getting an honorable kill or a target that gives experience unless its a free gcd. This ability will have exceptionally situational use and people saying that its a sign of our being OP are absolutely silly.

Anyways, Blizzard seems to have no clue whatsoever what they're doing with warriors. I'd imagine this will end up being like season 5 where fury will be our only balanced tree that will still be too weak to perform in pvp and we'll have to wait until 4.1 to see major changes to arms to help us get to a competitive level.

I'm HOPING that the changes that will come with the 31 point talents will be enough to get warriors back into the standing. As of right now, every class that's having things taken away are also getting things to compensate. Everything the devs have told us about our class have to do with things being taken away and very little, if anything, being given to us in return.

This is also why there's some new blue post answering a question from a confused warrior player every single day.

[Chomag7]

People saying OMG VICTORY RUSH AWSOME HEALING.

Think again peoples. NO ONE specs into or uses abilities based off of getting an honorable kill or a target that gives experience unless its a free gcd. This ability will have exceptionally situational use and people saying that its a sign of our being OP are absolutely silly.

Anyways, Blizzard seems to have no clue whatsoever what they're doing with warriors. I'd imagine this will end up being like season 5 where fury will be our only balanced tree that will still be too weak to perform in pvp and we'll have to wait until 4.1 to see major changes to arms to help us get to a competitive level.

I'm HOPING that the changes that will come with the 31 point talents will be enough to get warriors back into the standing. As of right now, every class that's having things taken away are also getting things to compensate. Everything the devs have told us about our class have to do with things being taken away and very little, if anything, being given to us in return.

This is also why there's some new blue post answering a question from a confused warrior player every single day.

WPVP.

You get attacked, you charg at some critter, 1 shot it and intercept back+rush = win

[unholyfury]

If you were bothered to read his post, you will know English is not his first language.

I am not in BETA, so i can't really comment. Dont forget everyone will lose ArP, but i guess it will effect warriors most of all, maybe not even MM hunters any more. I am guessing DK's will gain more from this than anyone, as only blood used ArP anyway.

wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

Arpen benefits both unholy and frost these days... especially frost. You will see many top-level frost dks gemming for the ArPen cap.