Battle of the Badasses (Round One): Jaina Proudmoore vs. Tyrande Whisperwind

[Antuzin]

I have to give this one to jaina, she was able to freeze the alliance army in UC and has so much more lore than tyrande IMO. Jaina is also the strongest mage to ever exist. Tyrande is pretty much 3 different classes in one, tyrande isn't the best in all those classes at once. Also jaina can always teleport tyrande away if needed xD.

Aegwynn, Medivh, Alodi, Aranda, Med'an, Antonidas, and the whole Council of Tirisfal would like to have a word with you.

[Lore Lord]

= last time i checked the whereabouts of medivh are unknown im not sure if he is dead or not at this date.

Medihv is definitely dead and has been since Warcraft 1 when he was killed by Khadgar. His shade appears in Kharazan and his avatar appears as a prophet in Warcraft III but his body is dead and is never coming back.

[Elementium]

why would you hate her for being proud of varian , what he did for saurfang was a good thing

No no, I love the Varian and Saurfang thing..

BUT You can just smell the Knaak Sexism going on.. Jaina is supposed to be the leader of her OWN kingdom.. Varian isn't her king and that whole line in general is just the sappyist thing I've ever heard.

I'd rather Have Sindragosa yell "Your magic BetrAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyysss you!" All night, than listen to that.

[Synaxis]

Tyrande, hands down, for all the reasons already mentioned.

[Holytoast]

Tyrande..

Because all Jaina ever wanted was to study..

[xile]

Medihv is definitely dead and has been since Warcraft 1 when he was killed by Khadgar. His shade appears in Kharazan and his avatar appears as a prophet in Warcraft III but his body is dead and is never coming back.

I'm almost 100 percent sure he came back to life after that, there is a reason he is one of the greatest mages ever and thats probably because he is an eternal among other things.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Medivh

He was resurrected after khadgar killed him.

[Avalanch]

It's a close one. Jaina in WoTLK was kinda lame.. but she's a very powerful mage (even though it's not really shown too often.)

[Borigrad]

No no, I love the Varian and Saurfang thing..

BUT You can just smell the Knaak Sexism going on.. Jaina is supposed to be the leader of her OWN kingdom.. Varian isn't her king and that whole line in general is just the sappyist thing I've ever heard.

I'd rather Have Sindragosa yell "Your magic BetrAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyysss you!" All night, than listen to that.

i gotta agree with this, isn't jaina suppost to be neutral, if varian is her king does that make thrall her warchief(warbosses are warhammer...)? or is jaina alliance lorewise all over again, so does that mean she betrayed thrall at some point? was garrosh right in saying we need to destroy theramore?

honestly it's a butchering of jainas character on so many levels, she went from strong and independent in WC3 to weak and clingy as a personality in WotLK.

ugh i guess i am with garrosh in saying we gotta destroy theramore do varian can't use it for war.

[Ghrog74]

i gotta agree with this, isn't jaina suppost to be neutral, if varian is her king does that make thrall her warchief

LMAO... theres an amusing mental Image...

"Whose your Warchief!" *spank* "Whose your Warchief!" *spank*

[Magtheridon]

LMAO... theres an amusing mental Image...

"Whose your Warchief!" *spank* "Whose your Warchief!" *spank*

lol

[vanillas]

i think a more fair match would be tyrande v Aegwynn

[Antuzin]

i think a more fair match would be tyrande v Aegwynn

Nooooooo. All the Guardians were so powerful there is no mortal being on Azeroth that could even remove a hair from their head. Aegwynn defeated Sargeras.

Be realistic, man

[I Eat Babies]

Voted Jaina just because I don't want Tyrande to win. The winner of this faces Malfurion next round. I have a feeling that people will cause Malfurion to lose thinking he wouldn't beat Tyrande for emotional reasons(which he wouldn't in normal circumstances), but this is a theoretical deathmatch where emotions aren't involved.

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Nooooooo. All the Guardians were so powerful there is no mortal being on Azeroth that could even remove a hair from their head. Aegwynn defeated Sargeras.

Be realistic, man

Aegwynn fought an Avatar which lost on purpose. Don't get me started on Medan. He gets all of his powers within like a month and masters them....

[vanillas]

it was an avatar and Sargeras allowed her to defeat him so he could put his spirit in her body so he could then corrupt her son Medivh... no one could honestly single handedly defeat Sargeras

Be realistic, man

[xile]

it was an avatar and Sargeras allowed her to defeat him so he could put his spirit in her body so he could then corrupt her son Medivh... no one could honestly single handedly defeat Sargeras

Be realistic, man

Medan may very well be able to rapefist sargeras. Hes kinda like goku

[I Eat Babies]

Medan may very well be able to rapefist sargeras. Hes kinda like goku

Well, it took the whole council empowering him just to kill ChoGall, who on the large scale of wow, isn't very powerful. He couldn't touch more powerful mages like Azshara or Medivh.

[xile]

Well, it took the whole council empowering him just to kill ChoGall, who on the large scale of wow, isn't very powerful. He couldn't touch more powerful mages like Azshara or Medivh.

I feel like Blizzard is going to build him up to be greater than his father by far and he's going to be the save all, at the moment he's obviously not as strong as sargeras but i could definitely see blizzard making him exceptionally strong before the end of the game.

[vanillas]

Medan may very well be able to rapefist sargeras. Hes kinda like goku

nah sargeras would most likely just absorb the majority of his attacks and them stomp him... i mean hes a giant titan covered in flames

[skrump]

You all seem to forget one very important little peace of lore

Nightelfs were the first and foremost magic users.
Nightelf society quit using magic after the sundering and shunned those who refused.

The Humans were taught just a little bit about arcane magic by what is now the bloodelves (the elves who became overwhelmed by the use of such magic)

So here you have Tyrande who was alive before the sundering and clearly knows how to control magic far beyond any mortal would ever hope but has chosen to quit practicing it because of it's destructive nature, On top of that being the head priestess of elune she is a essentially the most powerful living resto/balance druid.

So yeah tyrande has essentially used every form of magic other than demonic at some point in her very long life and has most likely forgot more than jaina ever hopes to know.

[Faerillis]

We have no understanding of Tyrande's actual power levels. Jaina we have some understanding of, though she's hardly a "badass"

However Tyrande is a priest who apparently rolled need on a bow! I mean talk about not knowing your class. And being a priest and trying to do arcane damage, really?