Leap of Faith + group only = useless

[Djolisimo]

lol what? paladins cannot cast those 2 spells on people not within their raid/groups. so what exactly is the point of this thread, besides you being a complete fucktard?

That is exactly the point of the thread.

[sicness]

I think by "group" they meant "raid" too. Unless it's already raid/party only.

If it would be group only, it's PvE use would be equal to 0. Unless the specificaly design encounters with LoFing for example tanks or some particular targets in mind.

But hey, PvP skill indeed.

This is correct, just like any paladin hand spells and divine intervention you must be in a raid group or party with someone to use it on them.

[Mandible]

Tranquility is also being changed to reach the whole raid anyway as it is.

[JohnnyTKF]

Wow... I can't believe you'd QQ for that. Also, it could be raid available for all you know. Besides, people can click off the pallies grief, but they can't evade yours, so yea, be glad it wasn't taken out like Blinding Shield :P (If it was taken out, can't remember :S)

[Siron]

Ye sure, if im not happy with something blame stuff on paladins >.> typical

[BoomChickn]

Alright /repost, group means party or raid, PARTY means 5 man, group is in general. Cant imagine what kind of griefing could happen... jump off a cliff and pull someone with you :S

[vizzle]

Wow... I can't believe you'd QQ for that. Also, it could be raid available for all you know. Besides, people can click off the pallies grief, but they can't evade yours, so yea, be glad it wasn't taken out like Blinding Shield :P (If it was taken out, can't remember :S)

Actually it is something worth QQing for. If LoF was only usable on the 4 other people in your select party instead of the whole raid, it would lose a lot of it's flexibility because you wouldn't be able to use it on any random member who might be standing in the fire. Instead, it would become a situational spell where in you pre-set the groups to make sure the priest can grip any of those 4 people because of the specific fight design. It would be something worth QQing about -if- group meant party.

[Donald Hellscream]

imagine standing on a ledge next to priest.. he jumps off with levitate and pulls you to your death.. funny scenario? not so much you may not do it but im certain someone would and it would be a pain in the ass.

[Torne]

Fail Threat.
Group =/= Party.

Edit:
You can´t pull enemies with DG to you while falling, so you most certainly wont be able to use LoF either.

[Siron]

imagine standing on a ledge next to priest.. he jumps off with levitate and pulls you to your death.. funny scenario? not so much you may not do it but im certain someone would and it would be a pain in the ass.

Its like a dk casting water walking in toc10/25 after 4th boss is dead

[Donald Hellscream]

Its like a dk casting water walking in toc10/25 after 4th boss is dead

yes but you can just cancel path of frost you cant do that with leap of faith.

[Deleted]

Its like a dk casting water walking in toc10/25 after 4th boss is dead

That's actually the most retarded mechanic ever. They should have hotfixed that somehow, for example by adding an autoslowfall there or no fall damage from the water. I've seen pugs disband over it, lol.

[Abandon]

imagine standing on a ledge next to priest.. he jumps off with levitate and pulls you to your death.. funny scenario? not so much you may not do it but im certain someone would and it would be a pain in the ass.

Just like how Death Knights can Death Grip people off cliffs! Except they can't! Because it doesn't work that way!

It won't let you kill people by pulling them off cliffs. You need to be on the ground, just like Death Grip.

[BurningStick]

I'm pretty sure Ghostcrawler meant party and raid... and DI is getting removed in cataclysm.

[Deleted]

Just like how Death Knights can Death Grip people off cliffs! Except they can't! Because it doesn't work that way!

It won't let you kill people by pulling them off cliffs. You need to be on the ground, just like Death Grip.

You can LoF them into some kind of fire or other dangerous place. I actually wonder how many priests will wipe raids and groups like that. DKs were wiping people with DG, but LoF has the potential to be milion times worse.

But hey, in good groups, it'll probably be good and fun.

[Abandon]

Also, what was the point of making a new thread about this instead of posting in one of the two other threads about Leap of Faith which this has already been discussed in? If you had bothered reading them you would have seen that this thread is completely pointless.

[cTron417]

That's actually the most retarded mechanic ever. They should have hotfixed that somehow, for example by adding an autoslowfall there or no fall damage from the water. I've seen pugs disband over it, lol.

There is a fix for it. It's called, "Look down when you hit the water."

[Saverem]

Great..... just like Tranquility.

I am obviously not gonna grief players with this, this is absolute bullcrap.

If paladins can "accidently" grief players with Hand of Protection/Divine Intervention, then why don't you just remove/edit to group only those??

Blizz always giving paladins the upper hand again.

I think by 'group only' he meant to say group and raid. Lots of spell says group only that works on raids too.

It's so you don't grief that random person trying to mine and ninja his node.

[sicness]

Actually it is something worth QQing for. If LoF was only usable on the 4 other people in your select party instead of the whole raid, it would lose a lot of it's flexibility because you wouldn't be able to use it on any random member who might be standing in the fire. Instead, it would become a situational spell where in you pre-set the groups to make sure the priest can grip any of those 4 people because of the specific fight design. It would be something worth QQing about -if- group meant party.

It's already a situational spell regardless of whether or not you can use it in a raid or only party members. The majority of high end raids won't even use this, it's more designed for pvp anyways.

[Ultima]

GC said group wise, but he meant raid and party (both = group).

It's 99% likely to be this. Do not read into what GC says so specifically, he makes a shocking amount of grammatical errors. (Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-Crawler, just be realistic guys n' gals)

It's not the first time, it won't be the last.

Locked due to hysteria.