1. #1921
    Quote Originally Posted by calibro View Post
    3) I CAN'T get my haste higher than crit or mastery;
    Actually, you can, but you would have to reforge some crit + mastery to hit + exp so they will both have lower raiting than haste.

  2. #1922
    Quote Originally Posted by calibro View Post
    2) I must keep my crit rating higher than haste or mastery for the ragnarod trinket to proc on crit;
    Wouldn't it be good if the trinket proc'd haste if that is the best stat? Or does it make us get too much haste during berserk+BL so you get energy capped?

  3. #1923
    How much of a gain am I looking at going from 372 Malevolence to 378 Ranseur's, using 4p T12.

  4. #1924
    So, why, exactly, you don't want haste proc? It is 2 more shreds during berserk from the proc only (and about 1.3 sec of berserk with 4T12, assuming continuous model). Also, more omen procs help a lot too.

    Upd: Ah, I forgot you don't use 4T12. Well, I still don't see how crit proc is so better then haste is much better than crit in Stat Point/dps normalization. I mean, we are not gcd capped, ooc have flat proc percentage...
    Last edited by Mithfin; 2011-08-04 at 06:04 AM.

  5. #1925
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    UW nerf confirmed:

    [22:37:53.394] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:37:53.626] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *34404*
    [22:37:53.989] Ekthelion gains Heedless Carnage from Ekthelion
    [22:37:55.484] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:37:55.734] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *35329*
    [22:37:56.668] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:37:56.902] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *36257*
    [22:37:59.883] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:00.183] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19090
    [22:38:00.942] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:01.385] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19922
    [22:38:01.935] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:02.268] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19581
    [22:38:02.970] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:03.423] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19124
    [22:38:04.002] Ekthelion's Heedless Carnage fades from Ekthelion
    [22:38:11.226] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:11.520] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *33995*

    /sad feral

  6. #1926
    Yeah seams like perfect time to grab Hungerer since i have Matrix already :P
    Sadly no 4t12 for now but that should be fixed next reset(stupid BH won't drop ma lewts)

  7. #1927
    I'm not getting these results when testing UW on US servers

    stats screen indicates a weapon damage increase and no AP gains

  8. #1928
    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    I'm not getting these results when testing UW on US servers

    stats screen indicates a weapon damage increase and no AP gains

    Well tbh i was wondering last night during raid why i cant reapply rip on 2-3 sec till it expires(mid fight) now i know why /sad kitty. Thinking only should i get rep trink and replace UW tonight altho i would need shtload of reforges again

  9. #1929
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    maybe this is an Eu only nerf :P

    anyway, i wonder if essence of cyclone will be better then new UW then.. (both 359 versions)
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  10. #1930
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeyIllidan View Post
    How much of a gain am I looking at going from 372 Malevolence to 378 Ranseur's, using 4p T12.
    Around 400-500 I'd say. And around 900-1000 going from 378 to 391.

  11. #1931
    Anyone else Rake do less damage since yestrday ?
    From being number 2-3 on my damage meter it dropped to 4 on 3 fights(alys/shannox/beth hc) . i didn't change anything about reforge . my mastery still top since i still have 2t11 pc and 2t12p . it's wierd even on dummy rake only dong like 16% of the damage down from 20-22% . only 1 thing changed i removed UW for the 378 rep trinkt .

  12. #1932
    I registred that i am already no more number one in dmg in fights like shannox but i think it's because the gear of the other DDs is better since the first oder 2nd ID and maybe they scale better with higher gear as feral druids do

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    I'm not sure if this has hit US servers or not, I still appear to be getting the proc as weapon damage and not attack power.

    EDIT: Didn't see the 5 other posts or so claiming this as well, haha, sorry for the repost, but still relevant. Odd, anyone done a bug report on the EU forums yet?

  14. #1934
    It would be quite hilarious if it was just a mistake on EU for UW nerf, the tears of pain from all those crying about it being op would be so entertaining

  15. #1935
    It's not live on US servers, however myself and a few ferals that I know have already swapped out our UW's in preparation. Personally I never liked the trinket, couldn't be happier that I can drop it before I pick up Matrix.

    Also I want to state how emphatically I love the Hungerer trinket. The proc rate is so fucking amazingly good. First hit every single time, and the moment it comes off CD, it's active again. It is better than sex.

  16. #1936
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    Ticketed it, lets see how they respond.

    Also yay hc fandral staff DD

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  18. #1938
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Ticketed it, lets see how they respond.

    Also yay hc fandral staff DD
    Gratz! Same here. After 5 weeks it finally dropped. Together with our first ever Firestone. But Firecat>Firestone!
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  19. #1939
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    Updated BiS and trinket lists with Unheeded Warning nerf.

  20. #1940

    Matrix Restabilized

    I actually think this trinket put mastery higher than haste (especially with 2t11)
    For haste and crit proc its always same : 30 sec duration, 105 sec ICD.
    For mastery its more tricky: if you can time your rip and rake proper - you will gain much more benefit: lets say you apply your dots on 1-st sec., then pop rake on 15 sec and right before proc end, rip will be on 23-rd sec.

    After that mastery buff wears off, you STILL get benefit from it, putting it's useful duration to 44-45 sec not 30 sec.
    On average numbers it will be : 466 haste VS 700 mastery, guess 700 mastery will win.

    To get it work you still need mastery to be higher than haste even by 1 point.

    Bad thing: Hungerer, it procs haste... so you will also get haste buff from matrix in this case

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