I still watch it as I love the comics so I have some morbid obsession to see how there being butchered, though I also only watch it when. I’m out of good shows to watch.
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Ain’t to bad on hours if you got to screen and can slap it up on one while doing some thing actually interesting. I’d never watch it on actually tv though.
That Negan cop out was exactly how he died in the comic books though, so that is not off the rails as much as the mid season premier. I was rather PISSED when had survived that dumpster dive. I was actually cheering on the Walkers when I saw him fall. That was I think their first foray into the slit decision types of episodes. They left that scene open to determine fan reaction to see if they would get away with it there or not.
Same thing with Carl, they left that scene open, 8 x 06, watching the scene over and over again, you can see the walker rising up on him but you do not see his reaction until 8 x 11 where they give it more clarity that he got bit.
Personally I cheered this death too. My biggest gripe with the show is how the unkillable 8 were always around for the next season with a pile of secondary cast corpses in their wakes each season. I get it, most of them still do live in the comics like Carl, but I just hate how every other secondary and below character dies to keep them alive. I am very eager to see who bites it next. At this point I am cheering on the Walkers more than the humans......
it wasn't a cop out because he died it was a cop out because they hulked hulk hogan first making you think glenn would live but instead of letting him live which would comply change the story going foreword they went LOL NOPE and killed him for no reason.
the comics also arnt as much of a revolving door as the show is in turns of characters and its made pretty clear that pretty much any one can die even more so with more recent comics.
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this i think show cases the different pretty well, from early on in the comic the characters are shown to be able to lose things and be put in situations the show never the show doesn't have the guts for. carl is the first time the show has really had any of the main characters ever lose and even that it comes off as stupid and poorly done.
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The only good part to tonight's episode was the back and forth at the end with Negan and Rick...
Urrggg they are dragging this the fuck out again.
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Trash people are wiped out by Steven Ogg's character against Negan's wishs, Rick told Negan Carl is dead, Negan showed a little emotion to that, Rick said hes going to kill Negan like 5 times, Negan said Carl's death is Rick's fault, Rick says hes going to kill Negan again...Oh Guy and Girl didn't get camp of woman to help, They nearly die by said group and guy stays behind to try again.
The End.
Everything else in the episode was 100% pointless and predictable. There saved you and everyone else 45min's of boring shit and 3min's of so so character development.
Edit: Loved the whole (Character name pops up on screen SO YOU KNOW ITS ABOUT THEM).
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Seriously, it was like watching the movie The Titanic.
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I actually thought tonight´s episode was pretty good. My favorite parts of the series is when they kill walkers in new and creative ways. Like the time they did the 100 yard clothesline between cars. The meat grinder was pretty satisfying. I also think the whole Negan-Simon situation is pretty interesting right now. I like not knowing what was going to happen when Simon went to the trash people, but then seeing Ricks reaction when they first entered.
Serious question, does anyone know how these guys get paid? Is it per season, or per episode or per episode that they are in. It just seems bizarre how little airtime Daryl is getting as he is the biggest fan favorite.
But anyway, one of the better episodes the last few years, and much better than watching Rick blow snot bubbles while crying like last week.
Seems kinda stupid to me that they didn't crawl over all the garbage (Is there a way out? Yeah, the way you come - lol). Seems a lot safer to me than bumping a few dozen walkers.
Also I can't help but laugh how decided to let the one gay dude stick in the camp with all the women.
Tonight's episode was actually quite good, if you fast forward the pointless Aaron/Enid part. Literally everything else was good.
- Negan acting like a normal human being and telling Rick off for a moron that he is.
- Jadis looks to be on a fast track to become the next villain, and she's got a grudge for both Rick and Negan now, maybe it'll be her that unites them eventually? Meat grinder scene was brutal and powerful.
- Simon, the magnificent bastard, brought us the best scene of the season so far. Not that it's a hard thing to achieve, given what a mess S8 is, but really - great scene.
I haven’t watched it yet but I like that they would show that negan actually cares if even a little that Carl died and that he blames rick. Of every thing in the show I think negan is proabbly done the best and something small like that shows he’s closer to the comic negan then any of the other characters are to there comic counterparts.
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Negan really should care that Carl died. Negans whole thing is he wants to keep people alive but he thinks there to stupid to do it them selfs and he think fear will keep them inline and thus alive. Carl to negan is or in the shows case was a survivor like him self. The fact that Carl died because of rick should have some sort of impact on negan and also reassure him that his way of doing things is right as it’s morons like rick who end up with people getting killed.
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I really wish they had just stuck to the comics or if they wanted to go off them atlest hire some good writers. I want to bad to like the show and for it to be good but more and more they seem to just butcher the source material while showing fleeting glimpses of how they could have made a good show before going back into the trash.