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[Deleted]

Not sure if you want to believe him, but Colts owner Jim Irsay isn't sold on Luck yet.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...153001846.html

Then again, I don't think he's even allowed to say who he wants at number one anyway, so probably nothing to get excited over.

At number one you can draft before the draft. He is probably trying to downplay the hype so he doesn't have to pay more money when contact talks come around.

[Pendulous]

All turnovers are now to be reviewed by the booth: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...overs-ot-tweak

I like this change, but why don't they just stop beating around the bush and adopt the college rules?

---------- Post added 2012-03-28 at 06:55 PM ----------

Also, Brandon Jacobs signed a 1-year deal with SF. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...rs-source-says

The Niners are gonna be killer this year.

[Skarsguard]

Hum 3 RB's for the 49er's that's kinda weird but Frank Gore doesn't have to much longer he is old by running back standards so it's a good move for sure.

Edit: This post reminds me what happened to fullbacks I mean I can't name a star fullback to save my life I know they have one on the Ravens but have they all converted to T.E's.

[Pendulous]

NFL passes overtime rules to be used in regular season too: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...152153688.html

See my above post about adopting college rules. This is just stupid.

---------- Post added 2012-03-29 at 03:31 AM ----------

Hum 3 RB's for the 49er's that's kinda weird but Frank Gore doesn't have to much longer he is old by running back standards so it's a good move for sure.

Edit: This post reminds me what happened to fullbacks I mean I can't name a star fullback to save my life I know they have one on the Ravens but have they all converted to T.E's.

Moose Johnston, last big name I remember, but there are still a few left in the NFL I believe.

[Jibjabb]

College overtime is terrible as it eliminates many aspects of a football team. Special teams should still be a factor so should the deep threat. I dont like an overtiming changing anything about the game itself. Basketball and Baseball its the same thing in the overtime as it is normally and thats why they have it right.

Football has 2 choices:
A) Just play another quarter
B) Evolve the current system where each time a score happens it is allowed to be matched. So in this case getting a TD doesnt mean you win, the other team can match and if they dont they lost. Same goes with FGs/Safeties. And if the 1st team goes out and gets a FG then the oppposing team responds with a TD game is over. Think of it like rounds, each round a team gets 1 possession so
(Pats) Punt (Eagles) Punt
(Pats) FG [so now Eagles get a chance to match it] (Eagles) TD

Eagles win as their 7 beats Pats 3. I think thats much better, much more fair, and much more entertaining.

[Pendulous]

A) Just play another quarter

Done. Do that. Problem solved.

[Elbren]

I'm still trying to figure out what was wrong with the old, easy-to-understand, sudden-death rule. It's ok for a game that finishes in the normal allotted time to end on a FG, but somehow it's horribly and insanely evil for an overtime game to end on a FG? The whole 'both teams should get a chance / game shouldn't be decided by a coin flip' thing seems silly to me. That kind of defeats the point of overtime. Both teams have already had 4 quarters / 60 minutes to do what they needed to in order to win and they couldn't do it. The whole point of overtime is to find a quick resolution to these types of games. Now, somehow, a FG 'doesn't count' in overtime.

Well, it does count ... only as long as the opposing kicker kicks one and then your kicker kicks ANOTHER one. Just stupid.

[Jibjabb]

cause its neither fair nor entertaining to have a coin flip be that impactful to the outcome of a game

especially if you have 2 offensively oriented teams its basically whoever wins coin flip wins the game. new overtime rule should be dubbed the "Brett Favre rule" since there was such an outcry after he wasnt allowed to even touch the ball in their overtime loss to new orleans in the playoffs

[Vetali]

Done. Do that. Problem solved.

Makes more sense, but wont ever happen because of the networks scheduling. Every OT method has their pros and cons.

[Pendulous]

Makes more sense, but wont ever happen because of the networks scheduling. Every OT method has their pros and cons.

I forget, is it college or pros that will actually delay the start times of their games for the previous game to finish? Either way, I don't remember either doing it last year, catching games halfway through the first quarter on the same channel because the first went to overtime.

[conscript]

I'm bummed that we don't get to see Schwartz tell a ref to learn the fucking rules on national tv again unless the ref is a massive, massive idiot and forgets the one set of rules.

[Vetali]

I forget, is it college or pros that will actually delay the start times of their games for the previous game to finish? Either way, I don't remember either doing it last year, catching games halfway through the first quarter on the same channel because the first went to overtime.

College if any. I don't remember them doing that at all. I know I'll be watching the early game or something, if it goes into OT they'll just cut the game going into OT and swap to the next one. It depends on the region though.

Edit - thats for pro.

[Elbren]

cause its neither fair nor entertaining to have a coin flip be that impactful to the outcome of a game

especially if you have 2 offensively oriented teams its basically whoever wins coin flip wins the game. new overtime rule should be dubbed the "Brett Favre rule" since there was such an outcry after he wasnt allowed to even touch the ball in their overtime loss to new orleans in the playoffs

How is it "not fair"? Both teams have already had 4 full quarters to do what they needed to do to win, but couldn't; that's why you're into overtime in the first place. People keep whining that the coin flip is 'unfair', yet no one seems to mind the fact that a coin flip decides who gets the ball first in the 1st and 3rd quarter. It's silly to play an entire game and then suddenly, in overtime, have to tell your kicker, "Sorry, we're basically taking you out of the equation. Yeah, we're gonna use you if we get into FG position but can't get a TD, but your first FG really isn't going to count."

To me, all this does is shift the chances of winning heavily into the favor of top offensive teams. What is the point of playing overtime if you're just going to handicap lesser offensive teams like the Browns, Jags, etc?

I agree, this is basically a direct result of that Brett Favre game.

[Logonov]

How is it "not fair"? Both teams have already had 4 full quarters to do what they needed to do to win, but couldn't; that's why you're into overtime in the first place. People keep whining that the coin flip is 'unfair', yet no one seems to mind the fact that a coin flip decides who gets the ball first in the 1st and 3rd quarter. It's silly to play an entire game and then suddenly, in overtime, have to tell your kicker, "Sorry, we're basically taking you out of the equation. Yeah, we're gonna use you if we get into FG position but can't get a TD, but your first FG really isn't going to count."

To me, all this does is shift the chances of winning heavily into the favor of top offensive teams. What is the point of playing overtime if you're just going to handicap lesser offensive teams like the Browns, Jags, etc?

I agree, this is basically a direct result of that Brett Favre game.

teams actually really care how the coinflip for opening of halves work out. Frank Beamer of Virginia Tech (yeah i know its college but if he thinks this way, many higher level coaches probably do too.) has gone on record on live radio broadcasts and elaborated on which team its more important to get the kickoff in which half. The week before the Georgia Tech game, which is a huge ACC match up, he actually says he prefers to get the ball first half just to strategically get a lead on them before the other team gets the ball. In any other week he'll say its preferable to get the ball in the 2nd half to try and expand a lead, or put a dent in an opponents lead.

Most every other sport can justify reasons for being sudden death. Hockey and European/rest of world Football practically assure that both teams will get to at least touch the ball in overtime so long as there isnt some freak accident goal in the first few seconds (it does happen but the odds favor a little more time being lost). They even resort to multiple opportunity shootouts when that overtime doesnt resolve the issue. Only as it drags out way too far do they start to really pile on the pressure. The NBA doesnt do sudden death, that would be stupid in their case, scoring is so frequent in that sport that the effort as a whole is more important than 1 tiny window where a guy makes his layup he should make 100% of the time anyway.

The kicker's field goal in that situation is as important as any other score, because the other team still has to score. Odds are that team still probably has to march 80 yards to get a touchdown, and at least 50 to get a shot at a possible field goal.

Dont give me BS that this favors the big guy, the little guy finds a way to win when outmatched. See chiefs vs Packers. Jags, seahawks vs Ravens, and most interestingly with the current OT rule Broncos vs Steelers. On top of that half of the broncos season (where lets be fair they were underdogs to some pretty superior teams) squeaked out several wins over and over in overtime situations that went beyond sudden death. Bears and chargers meetings.

[buck008]

So Herm Edwards is pissed at the Saints because they very clearly want to hire Bill Parcells if Payton's suspension is upheld. However, even though he would only be an interim coach, he's still coming from outside the staff. That means the famous Rooney Rule applies and the Saints should have to interview a minority candidate. While, I think it's nice that the NFL tries to get more minority head coaches in the league, this is, and has always been, a fairly crappy way to make that happen.

How many more negative headlines can the Saints snag in one offseason?

[Skarsguard]

Shawn Payton files an appeal for the one year ban http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...on-source-says

[Vetali]

Hrmmm. So Nike is now making the Jerseys for the NFL... I found this post on the Seahawks FB page - http://www.seahawks.com/news/article...4-26b97a3a8b29

Now, I also saw this on the Seahawks twitter earlier saying that Mashawn Lynch was on the Nike football twitters background - https://twitter.com/#!/usnikefootball

Makes me think, has anybody else seen anything about the other teams? Maybe the whole league will look diff.

[conscript]

Hrmmm. So Nike is now making the Jerseys for the NFL... I found this post on the Seahawks FB page - http://www.seahawks.com/news/article...4-26b97a3a8b29

Now, I also saw this on the Seahawks twitter earlier saying that Mashawn Lynch was on the Nike football twitters background - https://twitter.com/#!/usnikefootball

Makes me think, has anybody else seen anything about the other teams? Maybe the whole league will look diff.

Expect to see lots of different looks. About a year ago there were some "leaked" jerseys that I think ended up just being Nike concepts, but they were radically, radically different then the current jerseys. At the time I think Nike said that the final models wouldn't be as revolutionary as those, but that there would be a noticeable difference for some teams. I can't wait to see what the new jerseys look like starting tomorrow. If they do as good of a job as they have done with some of their Oregon college jerseys I will be very excited to get a new Lions jersey.

[Vetali]

Expect to see lots of different looks. About a year ago there were some "leaked" jerseys that I think ended up just being Nike concepts, but they were radically, radically different then the current jerseys. At the time I think Nike said that the final models wouldn't be as revolutionary as those, but that there would be a noticeable difference for some teams. I can't wait to see what the new jerseys look like starting tomorrow. If they do as good of a job as they have done with some of their Oregon college jerseys I will be very excited to get a new Lions jersey.

Yeah Seattle is hyping it up, so its gonna be big imo. Even though I'm reading they are going back to the gray theme. Ugh. I liked our home jerseys but the away ones sucked. Should make the away jerseys gray instead of white.

[Twiddly]

The reason you do not hear of big name full backs is because they are all relegated to blocking backs now essentially. Vikings have a great one at that, the falcons had one a couple years ago (Cannot recall his name, think he retired) and the ravens as well.