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[Craz]

You see this is sorted by pts allowed, as honestly that's what matters most, it doesn't matter if you give up 400 yards to a team if you allow 0 pts you win the game. See it's a fact. Oh and for post season packers were #1, I don't know how you come up with #3.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...G&d-447263-n=1

As for schedules, fyi #1 is hardest, and #32 is easiest, Steelers had #21.
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/interactive#/team=PIT

It's not surprising they ranked 21, with a light schedule, they got to play browns and bengals twice, bills, panthers. That right there is 6 free wins for any decent team.

Oh and since you don't watch football, yes the falcons did in fact beat the packers this season. I already stated a few pages go they played week 12. I never said falcons were "godly" you called them bad a few pages ago, now you say they should be in the superbowl. You can't even remember what you said a few pages ago, because you make everything up on the spot.

[Bamboozles]

You see this is sorted by pts allowed, as honestly that's what matters most, it doesn't matter if you give up 400 yards to a team if you allow 0 pts you win the game. See it's a fact. Oh and for post season packers were #1, I don't know how you come up with #3.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...G&d-447263-n=1

Not even close to what you said. It's funny, you have to sub categorize to cover your ass.

As for schedules, fyi #1 is hardest, and #32 is easiest, Steelers had #21.
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/interactive#/team=PIT

Can you not read? I already said, I'm not basing it off of NFL.com's backasswards way of doing it. I'm basing it off of, we had to play teams with amazing defenses and awesome offenses. I already said this, I feel like a broken record.

Tampa Bay and Tennessee had great first halves of the season. They both started out very strong and were expected to make the playoffs.

Think you can get it that time?

It's not surprising they ranked 21, with a light schedule, they got to play browns and bengals twice, bills, panthers. That right there is 6 free wins for any decent team.

The Packers got to play the Lions twice and the Vikings twice, San Fran and Buffalo. That's 6 free wins, (yeah I can check schedules too) and yet you found a way to lose to Detroit. Doesn't even need a comment.

Oh and since you don't watch football, yes the falcons did in fact beat the packers this season. I already stated a few pages go they played week 12. I never said falcons were "godly" you called them bad a few pages ago, now you say they should be in the superbowl. You can't even remember what you said a few pages ago, because you make everything up on the spot.

You're actually stupid.

I said, because you're putting so much emphasis on regular season stats, why then aren't the Falcons in the Super Bowl? If they did so well in the season with such a hard schedule, they should have coasted right through, yes?

Your inability to grasp anything is actually kinda funny.

For the last fucking time, to make it reaaall clear to you:

THE FALCONS ARE SEVERELY OVER RATED. YOU'RE PUTTING EMPHASIS ON REGULAR SEASON STATS AND SAYING THEY'RE THE MOST ACCURATE. WHY THEN, DID THE FALCONS AND PATRIOTS GET KNOCKED OUT SO EARLY?

I hope with the caps you can get it, because I'm not explaining it again.

[Badpaladin]

Why do you even bother, I backup everything I say with common sense, logic, and facts, you sir just make wild claims on everything.

Facts -- nope.
Common sense -- Nope.
Logic -- Nope.

Going by stats in the playoffs is about as ridiculous as it gets. Things don't follow trends. 2006, my beloved Broncos were 13-3 in the season, and although they had no standout players other than Bailey, were arguably one of the most solid teams in the NFL and were coming off 4 straight wins in the season. They proceeded to solidly defeat the Patriots in the playoffs, and headed to the AFC championship. What happened? The number 6 seed, the Steelers, who for all their merits had a pretty terrible season, absolutely trounced the Bronocs AT INVESCO, 34-17. It was an absolute slaughter.

Now, how many playoff games have the Packers played and won since 2004-2005? How many superbowls have the Packers won since then?

The Steelers are the clear favorite, and it's obvious why. That defense has been in the superbowl, twice. That defense has brought them to the superbowl, three times now. On top of that, Big Ben is one of the better clutch QB's in the NFL who can perform when being pressured with blitzes.

Outcome? Fuck if I know, it's the playoffs. I do know, however, that the Packers played very poorly against the Bears and cannot afford to do the same against the Steelers, because the Steelers are opportunistic and have been known to show up to play in big games.

[Fuzzzie]

Try to tone it down here guys. We don't need to be insulting to make our points.

[Deleted]

Tampa Bay and Tennessee had great first halves of the season. They both started out very strong and were expected to make the playoffs.

By who? Bucs was not expected to make playoff in NFC South.

And Falcons are not overrated, they are with Patriots the best home team in NFL. The reason they lost, was cause Green Bay were better in that game. And Pats lost cause they live on Brady, and when Brady has a bad day. Patriots have a bad day.

The problem with NFL is the 1 match playoffs, one bad game and you are out. The best team almost never wins Superbowl, its the team that playes best when it matters the most. Patriots are the best team in NFL and Falcons are better then Packers with the injuries Packers got.

And fyi, im a Bucs fan. And i really dont like the Patriots im just being realistic.

[Robbyjawz]

By who? Bucs was not expected to make playoff in NFC South.

And Falcons are not overrated, they are with Patriots the best home team in NFL. The reason they lost, was cause Green Bay were better in that game. And Pats lost cause they live on Brady, and when Brady has a bad day. Patriots have a bad day.

The problem with NFL is the 1 match playoffs, one bad game and you are out. The best team almost never wins Superbowl, its the team that playes best when it matters the most. Patriots are the best team in NFL and Falcons are better then Packers with the injuries Packers got.

And fyi, im a Bucs fan. And i really dont like the Patriots im just being realistic.

Patriots, best team in the NFL, don't make me laugh. Brady is a good QB, sure, but put him in the AFCN and he'll be average. Ravens + Steelers would be my picks for the best in the NFL, very good defenses, and offenses with a lot of talent. Any O coordinators with a brain for those two teams would easily make them amazing. Cam Cameron And Bruce Arians don't have said brains.
Packers are likely the best in the NFC, but I don't really care about the NFC, because in comparison to the competitiveness of the AFC, the NFC is a joke.
By the way, Patriots beating the Ravens and the Steelers because I know you'll bring it up: Ravens had a 20 point lead and Cam Cameron (brainless idiot that I mentioned earlier) didn't grow a pair and call good offensive plays to keep it! As he often does.
Steelers: Well, I didn't watch that game, but I am fairly damn sure that if it were done again at Heinz Stadium, the Steelers would have it. That place is a hellhole for visiting teams.

[Craz]

Facts -- nope.
Common sense -- Nope.
Logic -- Nope.

Going by stats in the playoffs is about as ridiculous as it gets.

Try reading thread again, I'm not the one going off playoff stats, that would be Bamboozles. And I already said by points allowed, as that's more important, go back and read my post. If you had to go between say allowing 0 pts and 300 yards total, or 10 pts and 200 yards total which would you pick? That's right 0 pts, cause allowing less pts DIRECTLY wins games, A team can have 0 yards and still score pts and thus win.

It's common sense, I don't get why you guys fail to understand something so simple.

[Robbyjawz]

Try reading thread again, I'm not the one going off playoff stats, that would be Bamboozles. And I already said by points allowed, as that's more important, go back and read my post. If you had to go between say allowing 0 pts and 300 yards total, or 10 pts and 200 yards total which would you pick? That's right 0 pts, cause allowing less pts DIRECTLY wins games, A team can have 0 yards and still score pts and thus win.

It's common sense, I don't get why you guys fail to understand something so simple.

Dude, you are beating a dead horse. Also, as Paladin says, it doesn't effing matter about stats, stats win on paper, that is it. If stats won, then the Vikings would've won in 1999 was it? But they didn't. The Giants should've lost to the Pats in the Super Bowl whatsay? Stats don't effin matter, you shouldn't bring them in when saying "omg they should've won" or "omg they will win." Stats in my opinion can get out. Because in the end, all that ruddy well matters is the win in the end.

[Craz]

Not even close to what you said. It's funny, you have to sub categorize to cover your ass.

Can you not read? I already said, I'm not basing it off of NFL.com's backasswards way of doing it. I'm basing it off of, we had to play teams with amazing defenses and awesome offenses. I already said this, I feel like a broken record.

The Packers got to play the Lions twice and the Vikings twice, San Fran and Buffalo. That's 6 free wins, (yeah I can check schedules too) and yet you found a way to lose to Detroit. Doesn't even need a comment.

You're actually stupid.

I said, because you're putting so much emphasis on regular season stats, why then aren't the Falcons in the Super Bowl? If they did so well in the season with such a hard schedule, they should have coasted right through, yes?

For the last fucking time, to make it reaaall clear to you:

Sorry but I've been saying it the same all the time, #2 defense.

So you are basing schedules off your own personal opinion of how good you think teams are instead of actual real hard numbers? How is nfl.com wrong? They aren't, you just seem to think allowing less yards is more important than allowing less pts.

The Vikings were the best team in the league last year, they are in no way a free win, they were still playing solid football the first time the two played this year. The lions are actually quite good now, and when they beat the packers, arod was still out with a concussion.

Why are you personally attacking me now? Is it because you know I'm right and you look bad when I backup my statements with actual facts that proves you are wrong? Go read the forum rules, you'll be looking at a ban.

[Deleted]

You mad that the Steelers won their last two Superbowls with the help of the refs? Yeah, I know it sucks that a team has to pay off the officiating crew just to win. Or are you mad that you have a sex addicted QB trying to rape young girls in the bathrooms?

Who the hell isent sex addicted in some way ? I never liked Rothlisberger, but about his rape charges.. There are tons of questions regarding this, tons of question marks and hearsay going around. Were u in the room, so u can actually state that he DID rape that girl, or if she was just trying to pick up some dollars? I was once so drunk i couldnt even remember the chicks name, but i never complained in the morning.. DONT DRINK IF U CANT HANDLE YOURSELF.

Keep this discussion NFL based and not based on shit u hear from every corner in the world. Use your brain, watch the games.. and dude, paying off refs ? U gotta be kiding me. Refs makes mistakes, hence the ability to challenge. Like youre just flawless ey

[Craz]

Because in the end, all that ruddy well matters is the win in the end.

Post #195 I said this already. I'm just trying to get it through Bamboozles head that steelers are #1 defense and packers are #2 defense, for some reason he still disagrees even when the facts are shown to him via nfl.com

[Disenchanted]

You mad that the Steelers won their last two Superbowls with the help of the refs?

I'm going to ignore the useless crack at Ben. If you have proof, tell the cops. They can't find any.

And the refs? Really? People still whine like crybabies over refs? Sack up and be a man. Refs make borderline, or questionable, or sometimes downright bad calls. It's part of the game.

But...

Ever notice how nobody EVER points out all the bad calls that went against the winner? They don't remember them, because, well, that team won.

SB XL was evenly called. Sloppily called, but the calls evened out. And most of the calls the whiners complain about were CORRECT. Perhaps ticky tack, but correct nonetheless. Can't blame the refs on Seattle's loss unless you're going to say they:

1- Made Jeremy Stevens drop 9 passes.
2- Threw the blocks that opened a hole so wide a truck could drive through it allowing Willie Parker to go UNTOUCHED for a 77 yard TD run.
3- Threw salt in the Seahawks eyes so they couldn't see an end-around pass developing and gave up yet another long TD play.
4- Distracted Holmgren so he had such piss poor clock management.

Funny how noone ever mentions the BLATENT holds the Seahawks committed all day long. Or the Stevens fumble that was conveniently ruled incomplete (prior to the rule change where now you can challenge that). Not ruling it (correctly) as a fumble allowed them to score a TD on that drive. Yeah. Big deal, the Steelers overcame. Seahawks couldn't. End of story.

Don't even try claiming refs in SB XLIII.

Someone even was crazy enough to claim they pay refs off? If you know ANYTHING about the Rooney family... they're cheap. No way would they even if they could. And for as much of a hard on Goodell had against the Steelers this year, and the refs gunning for them at every turn, biased ref claims are ridiculous. Hell, even TERRELL SUGGS (who hates the Steelers) said the Steelers were getting a bad deal with the refs all year long.

Try again.

[Bamboozles]

By who? Bucs was not expected to make playoff in NFC South.

Yeah, they were. People expected a Saints meltdown this year. It kinda happened, too.

And Falcons are not overrated, they are with Patriots the best home team in NFL. The reason they lost, was cause Green Bay were better in that game. And Pats lost cause they live on Brady, and when Brady has a bad day. Patriots have a bad day.

The Falcons are severely overrated. I wasn't impressed in any game I saw them play this year. Sure, they weren't down by more than 7 points, but they also struggled consistently against weak teams. Matt Ryan just isn't that elite qb everyone thought he was.

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Post #195 I said this already. I'm just trying to get it through Bamboozles head that steelers are #1 defense and packers are #2 defense, for some reason he still disagrees even when the facts are shown to him via nfl.com

They're not. They're #2 in a category, yeah sure. That's cool, but not in #1 defense. They're not even close.

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Sorry but I've been saying it the same all the time, #2 defense.

You're implying as if it's true. It's not, they're #2 in a sub category if defense. That's like saying, we have a really good pass game, but kinda shitty run game so we're a really good offense.

No, it doesn't work.

So you are basing schedules off your own personal opinion of how good you think teams are instead of actual real hard numbers? How is nfl.com wrong? They aren't, you just seem to think allowing less yards is more important than allowing less pts.

Basing it off of who the teams are, and basing it off stats of their offense and defense. It's not personal opinion, it's just not the same way NFL.com does it. I go by what their offense and defense is, and how it ranks. Not the W/L ratio and total points, because that's idiotic.

The Vikings were the best team in the league last year, they are in no way a free win, they were still playing solid football the first time the two played this year. The lions are actually quite good now, and when they beat the packers, arod was still out with a concussion.

The Vikings were not good this year in any part of the game. Webb came in as their savior toward the end, but Favre was hurting them more than helping. I agree, records don't always reflect a teams capability, but in this case I think it's pretty dead on.

And are you kidding about the Lions? They're not as bad as the Bills, but it's close. It's not my fault Pillowhead was out with a concussion. It's a point in the right column, yes?

Why are you personally attacking me now? Is it because you know I'm right and you look bad when I backup my statements with actual facts that proves you are wrong? Go read the forum rules, you'll be looking at a ban.

Oh, I've been warned. I'm going to stop with the "personal attacks", but you're not basing it off of stats. You're manipulating stats to make your points.

The Packers are not #2 in defense. You can keep saying they are, but a sub category isn't total defense. Keep trying though.

About schedules, you're not even bringing in stats. You're going off of the backasswards NFL.com's way of doing it. If you want to blindly post links and etc. without doing your own research, sure. Go ahead.

Try reading thread again, I'm not the one going off playoff stats, that would be Bamboozles.

They're more important than regular season stats, and more accurate. A team can have a great regular season and then choke in the playoffs. So, what exactly does having great first 16 stats give them in the post season?

I've been notified to stop the attacks by a Moderator, so don't make the same mistake as me guys.

[AdrianCC100]

Steelers are going to lose anyway. lol

[Craz]

Well I'm putting you on ignore Bamboozles, there's no point in even trying to talk football with you. You've been immature and ignorant all thread and I don't see it changing. You just live in your own little world where you think the Steelers are some godlike team, that no other team even compares to. You can't even accept the fact that you were wrong when stats are clearly shown to you.

Win or lose, lets hope for a good superbowl, it should be very close as both teams are near identical.

There's no point in replying to this if you want me to respond as I said I'm putting you on ignore. Maybe you'll learn something from being warned by mods, who knows but I'm done wasting my time talking to you.

[Bamboozles]

When I started posting stats going against this clown, he puts me on ignore? Alrighty then.

I'm glad the "LOL PACKS DEFENSE IS SO GOOD" guy can't read my stuff anymore. Anyone else have any Super Bowl predictions?

---------- Post added 2011-01-27 at 10:28 PM ----------

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines

This isn't the kind of news I'd like to report on.

As many of you know, Baltimore Ravens Safety Ed Reed's brother had been declared "missing" prior to his game against Kansas City. His brother Brian Reed had jumped into the Mississippi River to avoid police. The police have released a statement saying they weren't bringing him in for anything criminal, but to bring him home to his family. The authorities recently released a statement confirming they have in fact found the body of Brian Reed and have determined the cause of death as accidental drowning.

Our thoughts and prayers are with the Reed family.

[Bamboozles]

Well, that's that guys. The Packers are Super Bowl champions, and it absolutely kills me to say that.

They completely dominated the first half. The Steelers' picks and inability to make any big plays helped the Packers go up by 11 at halftime. Honestly, I don't even think the Steelers showed up until the second half.

By the time the second half came around, it was too little too late. Steelers losing Sanders was huge, but the Packers losing Woodson was even bigger. There was a complete shift in momentum when the Steelers got the TD and held Rodgers to just 17 yards in the third quarter. That being said, Mendenhall's fumble took it all away. The Steelers allowed the Packers to score 21 pts. off of turnovers, which led to their fall. Simply put, the Packers were the better team for 3 quarters of that game.

I'm not making excuses, the Steelers came out flat and never played up to capability.

Congratulations Green Bay, champions of Super Bowl 45.

[AdrianCC100]

See?

The Steelers got no help from the refs and they lost.. LOL

[Bamboozles]

See?

The Steelers got no help from the refs and they lost.. LOL

Yeah.. it's not the fact that Ben didn't play well, or they lost Sanders. It's definitely not the fact that he threw two picks, one of which was returned for 6.

You make yourself sound like a complete idiot when you post on here. Also, go look at the ghost holding calls against the Steelers in the first half, 'cause it's actually kinda funny. I didn't really expect anything more from a Dallas fan though. Typical Cowboy clown, right?

[Valdearg]

Yeah.. it's not the fact that Ben didn't play well, or they lost Sanders. It's definitely not the fact that he threw two picks, one of which was returned for 6.

You make yourself sound like a complete idiot when you post on here. Also, go look at the ghost holding calls against the Steelers in the first half, 'cause it's actually kinda funny. I didn't really expect anything more from a Dallas fan though. Typical Cowboy clown, right?

I gotta say, man.. After all of your posturing and all of your horribly slanted BS "Analysis" and horrible predictions, the ONE PLAYER you predicted to turn the tides in the game did just that. Troy Polamalu turned the tide of that game RIGHT INTO the Packers' hands!! Your hero Troy gave up TWO, count 'em, TWO TD's last night, and he was virtually absent from the rest of the game. Combine that with the three spectacular defensive plays that resulted in turnovers and the Packers march their way to victory!

Troy Polamalu sure as shit didn't earn that Defensive MVP award that he received. Take it away from him and give it to the more deserving Clay Matthews, who actually created a HUGE turnover late in the game!!

GO PACK GO!
GO PACK GO!

LOMBARDI IS COMING HOME, BABY!!