Stealth Healing Nerf on Live - Enhance (Greater Healing Wave)

[keeb]

Or rather. POSSIBLE Healing Nerf.

Since Patch I have been consistently healing on my Insta Greater Healing Waves 10-11k non crit and 15-18k crit. Just yesterday I noticed they were only healing for 8k non crit, and 12-15k crits.

Something has been reduced IMO, or I'm just nuts.

Have any others noticed a reduction in Healing Amounts? specifically as Enhance... though other specs may have noticed as well.

[kosajk]

nope, GHW 10k normal heals and 15k crits

[Tehfred]

nope, GHW 10k normal heals and 15k crits

I crit for 32k on a brand new premade a few hours ago with a UE'd GHW (no other buffs) as resto.

Looks fine to me.

[Deleted]

I play resto and have not noticed a change

[Darzhar]

I crit for 32k on a brand new premade a few hours ago with a UE'd GHW (no other buffs) as resto.

Looks fine to me.

"LIVE"

Anyway, how does comparing the healing of a premade 85 resto shaman to the healing of a 80 enhancement shaman prove anything?

@ OP, have you considered that you mite have had a few proccs (extra AP -> SP) when you did those large heals pre patch?

[frester]

icc buff for first tests vs no icc buff for later?

[lejeuneking]

Also I believe there is still a healing nerf inside BG's from way back when they buffed resil midway through wrath.

[keeb]

"LIVE"

Anyway, how does comparing the healing of a premade 85 resto shaman to the healing of a 80 enhancement shaman prove anything?

@ OP, have you considered that you mite have had a few proccs (extra AP -> SP) when you did those large heals pre patch?

Thats possible. I could be mistaken about a nerf. I hadn't officially tested anything or recorded data. I tried to change my Posts Title to "Possible Nerf" but couldnt Not wanting to feed the negativity ya know.

What I saw as a Healing Nerf on Live, was completely unbuffed, except for perhaps totems. And It still seems to me Greater Heals are healing for 2-4K less today than they were 5 days ago.... but very subjective.. and apparently no one else is seeing this... so no doubt I am mistaken.

[Deleted]

can you link an armory profile so we can look at your gear and see what your heals should heal for (using coefficients and basic math)?

[OnlineSamantha]

You might've had some procs, or you might have gotten lucky. As far as I recall, healing spells, like damage spells, have a range (for example 5000 - 6000) of the amount of healing done, so you might have hit a large one and then a smaller portion later on. Though 3000 might sound like a bit too much for that.

[Tehfred]

"LIVE"

Anyway, how does comparing the healing of a premade 85 resto shaman to the healing of a 80 enhancement shaman prove anything?

Because I misread the OP. My mistake.

[Deleted]

GHW has a base of 7,200 (rounded) and a coefficient of 0.806 according to EJ. if you're healing for 12-15K crit, that's an average of 13.5K healing crits, or 9K. 15-18K crits mean 16.5K crit heals, or 11K. after substracting base healing, that leaves 1,800 and 3,800.

1,800/0.806 = 2233 SP
3,800/0.806 = 4714 SP.
a difference of 2,481 SP.

2233 SP equals 4466 AP, which is 2233 AGI, but there are also AP enchants: 32 from boots, 50 from bracers, 75 from pants, 44 from gloves, 40 from shoulders and 50 from head, for a total of 291 AP, which means you get 2088 AGI. so in math:
( ( ( ( ( (AGI+SoE) *kings*conversion) +AP) + 10% AP) /MQ) + (base int + NMT&powerful stats) * kings) ) *10% SP) = SP after buffs
( ( ( ( ( (2088+155) *1.05*2) +291) *1.1) /2) + (123+20) *1.05) )*1.1) = 3191 SP after raid buffs. that's still 1800 SP too little. so it's in fact a nerf.

[rabbimojo]

Just a thought to throw out for consideration: For some time, bubbles were maintaining the ICC buff (or some portion of it) outside of ICC. It's possible a similar effect leaked out for some other specs/abilities.

[DarkDragoonLord]

just gonna throw out that I'm standing in Org right now... no buffs, other than weap enchants and shield... in my PvP gear with 4785 AP and 2518 healing...

10.7-11.9k non crit, and 16.7+ crit GHWs

which is pretty much exactly as it's been since 4.0.1 hit live

[keeb]

Yep, my evidence was anecdotal at best. But felt to me so convincing at the time.

Im in PvP gear also, and not getting anywhere near 10.7-11.9 on non crit. Non crit is 8k.

logging on now to recheck.

Huh, It went back up.

10.8-11.7 and 16.2-17.6

Maybe I was bugged. Its back to normal. Something has changed

[Rehea]

there was a 10 % "hidden mortal strike debuff" active on battlegrounds/arenas/wintergrasp battle not long ago, and probably is still there.

Also might be caused by procs, berserking or procs from trinkets can make for the diference to your healing

[keeb]

Ahhh.. That may have been it.