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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    Shiroe has told them multiple times he's going to help them. Once they get out they just go to Shiroe. They also can't be attacked while in the city. If they leave the city then they run the risk of being attacked, yes, but going to Shiroe would more than likely resolve that issue.
    So we have solved the problem by letting the plot develop like it is? Mother of god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    They showed us that combat was enabled. But you're right in that they could only have it enabled only for certain people. Assuming that combat is disabled they could just try and escape while everyone is asleep. It's a game. The people can't do much to them.
    I think they can set permissions even for doors, can't they? Not much chance of escape then. And there is too much we don't know about guilds yet. We don't know exactly how joining and quitting guilds work, and they can probably find their guild members fairly easily if they try to escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    They showed us that combat was enabled. But you're right in that they could only have it enabled only for certain people. Assuming that combat is disabled they could just try and escape while everyone is asleep. It's a game. The people can't do much to them.
    Well, I'm pretty sure rape is actually still possible. Seeing as how Escorts are a minor-class in the game (more similar to something like a companion from the TV series Firefly than the actual real life example), sex is possible. They could certainly traumatize them quite easily.

    And there would obviously be guards at night.

    Remember, they are just kids. Before Shiroe even came into the picture, even if they could escape they would have nowhere to run. We already saw this episode how they were alone and in not a good situation before they got picked up by the guild. Now, they are simply waiting for Shiroe to come help them. They are too afraid to do anything by their selves. Though from the preview they might actually do something next episode.

    This is just an additional note, but I'm not sure they even have much time to talk to each other. They can only talk to each other discretely (like in this epsiode). They have two very different roles in the guild and probably don't see each other often. So it's not like they have the time to plan an escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightcaller View Post
    I think they can set permissions even for doors, can't they? Not much chance of escape then. And there is too much we don't know about guilds yet. We don't know exactly how joining and quitting guilds work, and they can probably find their guild members fairly easily if they try to escape.
    Forgot about the doors, probably explains why the girl can't leave and the boy always leaves with an escort. People seem to be able to be tracked really easily in this game i.e. Serara having to stay inside Nyanta's house to not be located.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Shadis View Post
    So we have solved the problem by letting the plot develop like it is? Mother of god.
    The way the plot is heading it looks like Shiroe is coming to get them. I'm saying they should just leave and go to Shiroe. That isn't how the plot is currently developing it would seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    The way the plot is heading it looks like Shiroe is coming to get them. I'm saying they should just leave and go to Shiroe. That isn't how the plot is currently developing it would seem.
    Didn't watch the post credits preview?

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    WataMote needs a sequel series. That's like the greatest protagonist ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaelsino View Post
    WataMote needs a sequel series. That's like the greatest protagonist ever.
    No man, Yahari Ore had the best protagonist >:O

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    I want another Campione... But the series ended with an anime original shitfuck(And not out of necessity, there still were a few more novels out at the time it was animated), so fat chance of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelly View Post
    No man, Yahari Ore had the best protagonist >:O
    8man really is a PROtagonist, series NEEDS S2 IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Shadis View Post
    Didn't watch the post credits preview?
    I did not.


    Yahari sold pretty well so we might get another season. That would be cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    I did not.


    Yahari sold pretty well so we might get another season. That would be cool.
    Go watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    I did not.
    The young siblings' passivity can be attributed to them being children, too stupid and afraid to do anything themselves until pushed past certain point.

    What irks me more is how not one person among a dozen-or-so thousand Akihabara residents, most likely many of them cooks, thought of actually cooking the food instead of just using the menu. OK, so initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good" as a fact and did not even try - but why did not one think it over once again after they were proven wrong by Shiroe and his thralls? I mean, they clearly DID get the food to actually have a taste - not one person stopped to think on how was that done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    The young siblings' passivity can be attributed to them being children, too stupid and afraid to do anything themselves until pushed past certain point.

    What irks me more is how not one person among a dozen-or-so thousand Akihabara residents, most likely many of them cooks, thought of actually cooking the food instead of just using the menu. OK, so initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good" as a fact and did not even try - but why did not one think it over once again after they were proven wrong by Shiroe and his thralls? I mean, they clearly DID get the food to actually have a taste - not one person stopped to think on how was that done?
    It's probably because they are still thinking in terms of the game rather than what that world actually is now. It is one of the more annoying points though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    The young siblings' passivity can be attributed to them being children, too stupid and afraid to do anything themselves until pushed past certain point.

    What irks me more is how not one person among a dozen-or-so thousand Akihabara residents, most likely many of them cooks, thought of actually cooking the food instead of just using the menu. OK, so initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good" as a fact and did not even try - but why did not one think it over once again after they were proven wrong by Shiroe and his thralls? I mean, they clearly DID get the food to actually have a taste - not one person stopped to think on how was that done?
    They believe Shiroe and the others are using some sort of advanced recipes to make food that has taste.

    Obviously many have tried to cook without recipes before, but like when Shiroe tried it, they ended up with crap. So when Crescent Moon starts to produce food that has taste it would only further their idea that Crescent Moon must be using high level recipes.

    And I don't think cooking is as common as you think it is. It's not like WoW where cooking is something everyone can pick up. You need to have it as your sub/minor class. Add in the fact that the people who do have cooking as their subclass might not actually have real-life cooking skills, therefore having no idea where to even start when cooking without recipes, the actual number drops incredibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesto View Post
    They believe Shiroe and the others are using some sort of advanced recipes to make food that has taste.
    Aaand not a single one person put any more thought into it, even those supposedly canny entrepreneurs? That's what I am saying is weird, that everyone in Akihabara(except Shiroe) is too dim witted to make any causal connections.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesto View Post
    Obviously many have tried to cook without recipes before, but like when Shiroe tried it, they ended up with crap. So when Crescent Moon starts to produce food that has taste it would only further their idea that Crescent Moon must be using high level recipes.
    Yeah, they tried and failed - thus I said 'OK, so initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good"'. But Shiroe proved them wrong with his goons - so not one of them even thought about it for a second?

    If they are stuck in an in-game state of mind did no one think how the inedible results of their efforts to cook food normally resembled how attempting to craft an item over your skill level would end with a failure and wasted materials in some games? Did not a single person without tailoring or leatherworking try to sew something they ripped and ended up failing similarly, providing tips to how crafting works in this lifelike game/VR? Why did the fact the leatherworkers and tailors actually sew by hand, not by menu, not tip any of the chefs off as to the direction they maybe need to take?

    If the cheapest, lowest level food tastes the same as the most expensive stuff made by highest level chefs then how does that curve go from 0 to 100 just by using a bit higher level recipes no one else has yet? If tastiness of the food in the "high level recipe" theory would be based on the recipe level then it should increase gradually, not just suddenly go from nothing to extremely good - not even one person among those tens of thousands thought of that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesto View Post
    And I don't think cooking is as common as you think it is. It's not like WoW where cooking is something everyone can pick up. You need to have it as your sub/minor class. Add in the fact that the people who do have cooking as their subclass might not actually have real-life cooking skills, therefore having no idea where to even start when cooking without recipes, the actual number drops incredibly.
    I know how cooking works in that setting - but Akihabara has a few tens of thousands of people in it, most likely. Shiroe estimates the Crescent Burger's customers to count about 15 thousand - and if he is as infallible as the series established so far he would neither assume all the residents would become their customers as that's a stupid assumption, nor would he grossly miscalculate the population. A small percentage of 20 or 30 thousand is still a ton.

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    Jumped back to that episode - he actually simply says there's "more than 15 thousand players in Akibahara". I'm not even talking about all the other cities and possible travellers spreading news, though Shiroe probably did factor them in as he estimates the market size to be in "tens of thousands". That is really, really a lot of people and I find it hard to believe they are all lacking in the brains department. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelly View Post
    No man, Yahari Ore had the best protagonist >:O
    I agree with that!

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    Aaand not a single one person put any more thought into it, even those supposedly canny entrepreneurs? That's what I am saying is weird, that everyone in Akihabara(except Shiroe) is too dim witted to make any causal connections.
    Yeah, they tried and failed - thus I said 'OK, so initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good"'. But Shiroe proved them wrong with his goons - so not one of them even thought about it for a second?

    If they are stuck in an in-game state of mind did no one think how the inedible results of their efforts to cook food normally resembled how attempting to craft an item over your skill level would end with a failure and wasted materials in some games? Did not a single person without tailoring or leatherworking try to sew something they ripped and ended up failing similarly, providing tips to how crafting works in this lifelike game/VR? Why did the fact the leatherworkers and tailors actually sew by hand, not by menu, not tip any of the chefs off as to the direction they maybe need to take?

    If the cheapest, lowest level food tastes the same as the most expensive stuff made by highest level chefs then how does that curve go from 0 to 100 just by using a bit higher level recipes no one else has yet? If tastiness of the food in the "high level recipe" theory would be based on the recipe level then it should increase gradually, not just suddenly go from nothing to extremely good - not even one person among those tens of thousands thought of that?
    I know how cooking works in that setting - but Akihabara has a few tens of thousands of people in it, most likely. Shiroe estimates the Crescent Burger's customers to count about 15 thousand - and if he is as infallible as the series established so far he would neither assume all the residents would become their customers as that's a stupid assumption, nor would he grossly miscalculate the population. A small percentage of 20 or 30 thousand is still a ton.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Jumped back to that episode - he actually simply says there's "more than 15 thousand players in Akibahara". I'm not even talking about all the other cities and possible travellers spreading news, though Shiroe probably did factor them in as he estimates the market size to be in "tens of thousands". That is really, really a lot of people and I find it hard to believe they are all lacking in the brains department. :/
    You know, not even Shiroe came up with the method of food cooking right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Shadis View Post
    You know, not even Shiroe came up with the method of food cooking right?
    Yeap, because he thought as everyone else did: " initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good" (quoting myself again :3). That is a valid assumption based on the experiences everyone had up to the point of establishment of Crescent Burger. BUT thanks to the Cat-man everyone was provided with one invaluable clue: the aforementioned assumption, one everyone accepted as an obvious fact, was actually false. And once again - no one among tens of thousands put any thought into it, any at all. Irks me to no end. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yeap, because he thought as everyone else did: " initially they just accepted "food in this world can not taste good" (quoting myself again :3). That is a valid assumption based on the experiences everyone had up to the point of establishment of Crescent Burger. BUT thanks to the Cat-man everyone was provided with one invaluable clue: the assumption everyone accepted as an obvious fact was actually false. And once again - no one among tens of thousands put any thought into it, any at all. Irks me to no end. :P
    No one among the many, who had the cooking sub-class, who was able to think outside the box, who had a high cooking level to cook the food, who had the time the manually capture the food you mean?

    Remember that there are more cities than Akihabara and that contact between them is severely limited due to travel difficulties.
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