^^ you actually bottom out in dps around 84, and then it starts going up once you hit 85 and start to get your 333+ gear.
^^ you actually bottom out in dps around 84, and then it starts going up once you hit 85 and start to get your 333+ gear.
depending on the class and spec, people should do about 7-15k on trash and 12k+ on bosses.
I'd say 11k+ depending on the class with appropriate gear. However, there are a few fights where that will drop, because of dots ticking on a boss, movement, etc. Just situational tbh. I can do 15k on some fights and 9k on others, just because of movement, and dots ticking when I'm not on the boss because I'm moving out of something, etc.
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In heriocs my guild pulls around 12-14k before bosses drop, this varies alot between bosses as some require alot of swapping and we end up around 8-9k.
Today in BWD I (warlock, Emy, Trollbane) pulled 18k on bosses. Raidbosses last longer and fully buffed damage rises alot apparantly.
Clearly they should pull more, but then again, I'm running around in almost full 246 gear.
item level is for the most part a myth, I'm wearing 4 piece sanctified (1 heroic) and easily doing 10k at 85
why? i'm expertise capped and have adequate hit rating...... the basic rules still apply (for melee anyway)
I've just been keeping high ilvl gear in my bags so i can queue for stuff
Don't be so sure. The warrior tank in my guild averages 12k+ for a normal instance (and from what i've heard it doesn't change in heroic). The DPS is less than half that (including myself @ about 5.7/5.8).
Upon saying that, he has more free time than us and has well over 333 and I've only got 321. I'm pretty sure I'm not hit capped and generally I'm not interested in playing my level 85 atm (I'm over mage and I'm leveling my undead hunter which is unfortunately only 72 atm).
I'm still unsure how he does it. He is very good at maximising his dps but it's a bit insane. *jealous*
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In other news -- I'm not heroic-geared yet, but I'm consistently putting out 7k-8k damage on bosses. Given the rate at which my damage has been improving as I gained gear, I'll be doing the requisite 9k by the time I meet the ilvl constraints.
Thus, I wouldn't want to do heroics with any DPS doing less than 9k. :-)
I don't know what server you people are on but I never see anyone doing 11k to 15k dps!
On a tank'n'spank fight in a heroic with a good tank (so I don't get aggro) I do around 15-18k with avg ilvl 346. So if random people in hcs have around 330-340 ilvl I guess they should be doing no less than 10k atleast.
I do around 13.5k-16k depending on the fight (Fire mage)
Trash 7-10k
Bosses 9-13k depending on how much you need to move.
I'm in ilvl 338 and I pull 14k on tank n spank, 9-11k on movement intensive or mechanic heavy. I peaked 15k on the TB boss, but leveled out to 14k again. Seems like 14k is my limit right now. Survival is pretty pimpin though
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im healing atm (340 gear atm) but when i go dps i tend to be around 11-12k as elemental shaman .. and when ever my guild group is lacking a dps and we have to take a random .. there average dps is around 5k dps -.- to many people need to learn how to play there class ....
I love how everyone is going "Well, I do 20k dps, so I guess 5k is reasonable." Get off your high horse. Either you're lying and you're not actually doing that good dps, or you consider yourself so awesome that it's okay for others to have way less dps than you. How about saying "I do 14k dps, so anything below 12k should be considered bad"?
Personally I'm overjoyed if I am in a PUG and I see anybody doing 10K.
No joke, I had a pug (random) Grim Batol last night where 3/4 DPS were doing 3.5K single target. At 85. I don't understand how people can be that terrible.
Entry level heroics (ilvl 329) I think anything above 7.5K single target is good. Above 10K is great. Some classes (warlocks/dk/hunter) are stronger then others especially in AoE situations.
You're cute. I can pull 11k-13k easily while sleeping one add and rooting another on beauty as feral. Or rooting on ascendent lord in BRC. In fact, on ANY boss that requires add control I'm generally having to sleep/ root. Or running out of shatter on Ozruk ('sup, ranged not dealing with it?)
just because your melee suck and do nothing doesn't mean all melee don't help CC while still hitting the meters.
Considering my experience with dps in my groups, I feel like there is a TON of exaggeration in this topic. I don't think anyone is helping by posting their one super awesome fight they had.
As a tank, i've seen very few people over the 11kdps mark, so I would really love to see what people are geared in to hit these 13-16k numbers.
But even with everyone around 9kdps, heroic bosses are stupid easy.
A) Because they don't have Vengence stacking like you do.
B) Because when we have to move we stop doing damage where as you are always facing and attacking the boss.
From what I have seen 10-12k is the average for all classes with some exceptional specs (frost dk, surv hunter) doing more dps on average.
I am relativly pleased to see that for the most part all classes are relatively close together.