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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    Actually Mastery seems to be sim'ing higher on patchwork fights and crit is higher on helterskelter fights. I think this is because with all the movement that helterskelter puts in crit wins because of the crit'ing of our dots and the sim might not have enough orbs/es up enough to make mastery really valuable. However, there only is a 0.01 - 0.03 (rounding for sanity) difference, so it is pretty negligible.
    I just saw this and actually have an answer for it.

    The reason the stat weights differ on HelterSkelter vs Patchwerk is because ES falls down occasionally, and dots/spells are applied without Empowered Shadows active. Any spell applied without ES has an effective mastery stat weight of 0. Obviously this drives the value of mastery down while all three of the other stats go up.

    Kelesti: The obvious thing that I like about Newnoise' guide is that it is a great technical guide. My guide is written from the standpoint of someone who has played shadowpriests for a while and is looking for tips on gearing and cast rotations. It is unfortunatley very light on miscellaneous information such as what abilities do or how they work.

    There's a part of me that feels there should be room for both guides, or that perhaps the site needs a "beginner's guide" which goes into more detail on what the spells are and how they work. What glyph options there are, etc. etc. etc..

    I can work on incorporating more technical information into my guide as time goes on, although I was trying to avoid turning it into a "wikipedia" article on abilities which is what I worry it might turn into if I start adding too much data.

    If you see anything that you feel needs to be ported over, let me know. I will try to look over this thread and pull out anything relevant.
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  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by New View Post
    I do not give public-domain use for this guide, and do not condone it's reproduction in any way on this or other websites.
    This may present a problem for selectively picking things out to include in other guides, as well as editing anything out (4.1 specifics) to make this an "Intro to Shadow" guide.

    Edit: If someone else doesn't step up to the plate to make an Intro guide, I'd be willing to write one up. I wouldn't use New's as a reference since I'd rather not ignore his warning. Info I'd use would be from Kilee's guide, discussions from this forum, wowhead, and wowpedia (essentially within the Curse family). This next week may be a bit hectic considering it's 4.2, but I could give it a shot.

    That in mind, I'm totally willing to step aside if someone really wants to do it. Guides can get a bit crazy to keep up, and I'm only an amateur for theorycraft. Luckily all the "hardcore" details for current raiding would be in Kilee's guide.
    Last edited by Zuziza; 2011-06-28 at 09:29 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Purpleisbetter View Post
    Power Torrent, Volcano and Theralion proc'ed, dots just refreshed. Everyone dies. Just a tank and a boss with around 200k hp. Everyone in vt yells "omg we failed omg omg" and you "don't worry amigos, my dots are steamrolling!". Boss dies while you'd say "Enjoy your loots" with a lot of purple awesomness spilling thru your voice. Just happend yesterday.

    Seriously, i thought i'd reroll warlock for 4.2, but that was the sign that i'm purple inside and i can't reroll. never.

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Zuziza View Post
    This may present a problem for selectively picking things out to include in other guides, as well as editing anything out (4.1 specifics) to make this an "Intro to Shadow" guide.
    New had also spoken to me that he was going to get a replacement here to put something up, so we wouldn't be left in the dark.

    That was 2 months ago.
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  4. #304
    Thank for that reply Kilee Nice to see I was on the right track with what I was thinking there

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