Patch 4.0.6 Justice and Honor Trade Goods Vendors, Blue Posts

[stahlhammer89]

"Justice and Honor NPCs and will sell reagents for a very reasonable price. "

Very reasonable price my ass, for the amount of time it takes to get that many JP/HP you could have farmed 10x as much of any of those items.

[Gharld]

And here I had hope that I could actually buy something worth my time with JPs. I can farm 40 ore in 20 mins, so why would I blow about a day of JP's on the very same? Saving for when 359's go to the JP vendor it is...if I even need anything by then. Gogo offspec!!!

[Deleted]

3k JP for 20 Cata herbs is fucking ridiculous.

[Psii]

Holy crap, the sheer amount of retards in this thread is crazy.

THE PRICES FOR ITEMS FOR JP IS PERFECT

It's SPECIFICALLY for people that have NO USE of JP anymore.

THIS IS NOT A QUICK WAY TO MAKE SOME GOLD


*insert Picard facepalm here*

And here I had hope that I could actually buy something worth my time with JPs. I can farm 40 ore in 20 mins, so why would I blow about a day of JP's on the very same? Saving for when 359's go to the JP vendor it is...if I even need anything by then. Gogo offspec!!!

When 359s go to the JP vendor, you will also have your VPs transfered to JPs and your JPs would disappear.
That's the entire point of how the tier setup is supposed to work.

[marjak93]

In my opinion 2k Justice points for a stack of ore is way to much. Everyone would be better off saving their points for the next content patch if thats what the prices are.

The point of this system is not to make a viable farming solution to gain materials, but to give players that don't have anything to spend justice/honor points on something to spend it on.

[Willelm]

Heirlooms are still more expensive. Nice try, Blizzard.

P.S. really nice how you don't even put maelstrom crystals up there. Just love paying 1600g for one of those...

[Deleted]

The next content patch just brings Valor gear down to Justice. By the time that happens, everyone will already have all the Valor gear on their mains, so Justice will be useless again.

I imagine this thread will be 20 pages of people going "WTF PRICES SO HIGH" even though they announced last week the prices would be very high.

January 14th:

The Honor Commodities and Justice Commodities Vendors now sell raw tradeskill materials. These are not intended to be a cost-effective source of these materials, but an option for players with lots of Justice or Honor Points who have already purchased all of the gear that interests them.

Thanks for clarifying that and quoting the blue source. I still think they are just taking the piss: as a tank you can enter in Grim Batol solo and farm the few troggs before the first trash for 10 minutes and make like 5 bolts of embersilk, and i'm not even exaggerating by much.

So 2500 JP for that? please try and be serious, the little money you make of a random normal is more that what you need to get a stack from the AH these days.

To me that sounds like “here suckers, this is to shut down those of you who wine about having nothing to spend points on”
I can’t even begin to comprehend how people can be happy to spend 2500 points on 20 embersilk cloth.

If you want to put high prices fine, but put them on things that are actually tricky or annoying to get...

[Psii]

I can’t even begin to comprehend how people can be happy to spend 2500 points on 20 embersilk cloth.

What else can I use them for ?
I have no use for anything on the JP vendor.
I'll buy the last few BoA things I can use.
Then they'll sit there and rot till they disappear next patch.

[Deleted]

Why would I spend 1200 JP on a Heavenly Shard when I can spend 950 JP on one blue item and disenchant it into a guaranteed Heavenly Shard? At least make sense with your prices Blizzard..

To all those who say "people have no clue, if you think this is too expensive then this isnt for you", this chap just proved you how little thought they've put in that pricing.

Yes everyone isnt an enchanter and all (i think) JP gear is BoP, this still shows you they didnt bother thinking it through.

[Deleted]

You guys fail to understand that they can't simply put Maelstrom crystals and shit for reasonable prices from a vendor. It would eventually hurt the economy and certain professions if they did. These are just options for people who basically have everything that there is to buy from honor/justice points so that they don't have to sit at the cap for the whole expansion.

[Xentropy]

When 359s go to the JP vendor, you will also have your VPs transfered to JPs and your JPs would disappear.
That's the entire point of how the tier setup is supposed to work.

Actually, as I understood it, the JP won't disappear, just have the old VP amount added to it, then truncated at 4k (with possibly some gold-for-points conversion on anything over 4k like they did the last time they downconverted stuff, though no guarantees). The VP will disappear though, basically.

Examples:
Before patch, you have 1600 VP and 2000 JP.
After patch, you'll have 0 VP and 3600 JP.

Before patch, you have 6000 VP and 0 JP.
After patch, you'll have 0 VP and 4000 JP, with possibly some gold recompense for the 2k excess lost.

Before patch, you have 0 VP and 3000 JP.
After patch, you'll have 0 VP and 3000 JP.

This is why JP is capped, so people without VP can't just buy every old VP item the first day. They can only get one or two for whatever JP they were sitting at. If JP were being reset in the manner you suggest, there'd be no reason whatsoever to cap it.

[zcks]

Eh I don't have a problem with them offering things for justice points, hell they could even go lower on the price of a few of them.

What I do have a problem with is them offering them for honor, it just gives every teribad & bot even more reason to come to battlegrounds they they do not want to do anyway & screw them up even more so thy can be rewarded off of the work of those who actually play & do decently.

[Sanisbad]

ITT

People complaining about the prices who are clearly not, and nowhere near constantly being the cap with nothing worthwhile to spend their points on.

People who sit at the cap constantly grateful for anything useful to sink their points into.

People like me who are wondering why in the world all this too high QQ is popping up.

Stop using the total rip off argument and then trying to justify through some really general completely inaccurate "time to farm the mats" bit. There are a million variables and factors you aren't taking into account just because you want to further your point about it being a rip off. Here's some news, the idea of a "rip off" is subjective. You say it is. I say it isn't. Who's right?

Oh also the server economy thing. Yeah lets make raw materials, arguably the foundation of a server's economy, easily available through running instances. Shit why not just get rid of gathering professions entirely.

Yeah all this QQ is stupid.

[Deleted]

What else can I use them for ?
I have no use for anything on the JP vendor.
I'll buy the last few BoA things I can use.
Then they'll sit there and rot till they disappear next patch.

Im not saying you shouldnt spend 2500 on one item. I'm saying you shouldnt spend it on an item that is so ridiculously obtainable by anyone.

i'm not saying prices are too high, i'm saying the items you pay for are irrelevant. the 2 are completely distinct matters. If you propose something to your playerbase, do it in a way that shows you did some brainstorming.

This is just a "insert random item" dump of point for the sake of it. The bag might just be the only item where they put some though, since you could very well get a stack of herbs that doesnt take 5 min to farm.

But that's how far they brainstormed: half an item.

[Xentropy]

Shin: If they made hard-to-obtain mats (say, maelstroms) available for JP, either the economies on those items would crash, or they'd have to remove the JP cap and have a maelstrom cost 50k. There's no in-between. What would you suggest they make available, and at what price, keeping in mind nothing can cost more than 4k JP (or in cost-equivalency, what'd sell on AH for approximately 250g at the most)?

[Granyala]

I feel sorry for Blizzard having to deal with thickheaded people like some of those who are posting here. They don't read blue posts, they don't read announcements, all they do is froth from the mouth as if the MUST spend their JP on cloth. No buddies..you don't have to. How about NOT posting if you have nothing constructive to add?

The only "thickheaded" people are people like YOU who have no clue about economies or mathematics and just shout around that "thingz are fine!11" without even thinking for 1 nanosecond.

Here's one I spent my JP on the past weeks, in the same comparison:
2500 JP = 32 epic BC Gems = 32x5 @ vendor = 160g

And for the jewelcrafters, should you have corresponding pattern (Shattered Sun Offensive/Scale of the Sands), it's 32x(5+1) = 192g

Have fun :-)

LULZ!
You can buy BC gems for JP too? Man I really didn't look at that vendor for a looong time. ^-^
But thanks. In essence, your statement just adds more proof that the prices are absurd.

[thunderdragon2]

kinda disappointed at the lac of rare gems there i hope they up the drop rate of them when prospecting elementium ore dust and shards are easy to get atm so not much use for the vendor imo

[Hibz]

Awesome that I get to spend my points on something
I'm glad, thanks Blizz

[Granyala]

kinda disappointed at the lac of rare gems there i hope they up the drop rate of them when prospecting elementium ore dust and shards are easy to get atm so not much use for the vendor imo

1. rare gems are easy to get now.
2. They will implement that in 4.1 .. i think.

[Bombkirby]

Any one think this could potentially make the economy worse? :3 I dunno much about that stuff but could it?