Patch 4.0.6 Justice and Honor Trade Goods Vendors, Blue Posts

[DrgnDancer]

The prices don't seem too high to me, so much as they seem... odd. A stack of Ore is less way expensive that a a stack of herb, but they're equivalently difficult to farm. The same stack of ore is also less expensive than a stack of cloth, which most people farm tons of just doing dailies and dungeons. It's by far the most common mat, because there is no required skill to gather it. Savage leather is also way more than either ore or herbs, but requires a similar amount of farm time. Enchanting mats seem about right for the Celestial essence, but the heavenly shards seem cheap relative to the difficulty acquiring them, and the dust seems way over priced considering how much more common it is and how much more of it is typically needed.

I'd equalize the leather and ore, make the herbs a little more expensive (but not a full 50% more) to account for the random gambling factor that you might get a particularity good herb stack, make Heavenly Shards cost as much as ore and leather, keep Celestial Essence where it is, and make dust like 50 points. That would be pretty relative to their value in gold on the AH.

[darkenrahl]

the price are a biiiit too high...
to those that says "amg amg anyway i don't know what to do with jp!"
heck if you're in that position, you're most likely raiding, hence you don't need to farm heroics anymore... thus you don't get anymore jp :P
it's a chain..
need jp?
yes --> farm hc--> rinse check
no --> ignore hc forever &trash leftover jp somewhere if you can be arsed
heck i've been ignoring daily random since early january, so go figure...

[glaigas]

i prefer the whole government doesn't interfere with business...so blizzard shouldn't interfere with the WoW economy =)... i mean it was dumb enough that they implemented the d-ench option for all non enchanters in my opinion... being able to to raise gold to afford what you want is just another aspect of the game that makes it fun

[Darkguyver2020]

2500 Justice points for one stack of embersilk cloth??? GTFO!!!

[Xentropy]

the price are a biiiit too high...
to those that says "amg amg anyway i don't know what to do with jp!"
heck if you're in that position, you're most likely raiding, hence you don't need to farm heroics anymore... thus you don't get anymore jp :P

The VP weekly cap is 1250. 10-man raiders get 70 VP per kill, or 910 VP per week from raiding (including a 13th kill on the PvP boss) even if they're full clearing (which is a small subset of 10-man raiders). So even 10-mans that FULL CLEAR need to do 5 out of 7 daily heroics a week to cap VP. Even 25-mans that full clear need to do 2 out of 7 (at 90 VP per boss kill). Right now the VP cap is set up so even raiders need to do heroic dailies, every day for anyone below the bleeding edge (world top 1200 or so) and SOME days even for Paragon.

[Deleted]

Shin: If they made hard-to-obtain mats (say, maelstroms) available for JP, either the economies on those items would crash, or they'd have to remove the JP cap and have a maelstrom cost 50k. There's no in-between. What would you suggest they make available, and at what price, keeping in mind nothing can cost more than 4k JP (or in cost-equivalency, what'd sell on AH for approximately 250g at the most)?

I won’t have the nerve to pretend I can work out a viable price-scarcity ratio on crafting items while maintaining the economies of most servers.
I can tell you that items like Maelstrom Crystals should not be considered in that sort of trading since they can be traded and should remain as rare as they are now.

However, I can tell you items like Chaos orbs for instance or even big stacks of Volatile something would be actually “interesting” regardless of the cost.
My thinking might not be straight, but I heard once that people without the required skill on a crafting professions cant roll on Chaos Orbs.

There you go, having them at a high price would offer flexibility without affecting economies too much: they’d still be BoP, and they’d be really expensive.
The Volatile stacks would just be a commodity (maybe in the same way as the herbs bags) since I know that on some servers you cant find more than say 30 Vol Airs at one time.

I haven’t put much thought in all this and these are just suggestion to answer your questions, don’t get me wrong.
But I still think this would be much more useful while still being very expensive.

Price isn’t the issue I repeat, it’s just the items that are irrelevant.

[Zoma]

Now I can spend my JP on something. Who gives a shit if it is high priced, it's not like there is something else worth getting.

[thunderdragon2]

1. rare gems are easy to get now.
2. They will implement that in 4.1 .. i think.

depends on how much u mine doesn't it

and ive noticed that only 25% of the elemtium ore i prospect i get a rare gem that's why i wished for a increased drop rate to rare gems from them

and as for your second point would'nt we have epic gems at that point i know how much blizz just loves to screw over jc's

just my opinion tho

[fangless]

the rent is too damn high!







on a serious note; who cares? if you have max justice points... how is it hurting you? spend them, don't spend them.

people get so worked up over the more mundane things.

[wowplayer]

pretty damn expensive for stuff that is just out there. but at least you have a way to dump all the excess JP/VPs.

[Lickmun]

11 herioc bosses for 5 Savage Leather? A stack of Embersilk is more than a BoA chest/shoulders?

Seems real pricey. Also going to drive AH prices on these down, prolly just slightly though. How about letting me buy the ilvl 346 trinkets that never seem to drop?

At least it gives us something to spend them on so they don't go to waste.

[Deleted]

The next content patch just brings Valor gear down to Justice. By the time that happens, everyone will already have all the Valor gear on their mains, so Justice will be useless again.

I imagine this thread will be 20 pages of people going "WTF PRICES SO HIGH" even though they announced last week the prices would be very high.

January 14th:

The Honor Commodities and Justice Commodities Vendors now sell raw tradeskill materials. These are not intended to be a cost-effective source of these materials, but an option for players with lots of Justice or Honor Points who have already purchased all of the gear that interests them.

How right you were. In typical mmo-champion fashion, most of the muppets replied just as you said they would.

[Mandible]

"reasonable price".... riiiight. Well I guess seen in the context of how fast you can actually get the points if you spam instances its pretty fast.

[Agetro]

WHAT?! No Maelstrom Crystals... boo!

[Kiro]

Uh-oh, Blizzard's Buddy Brigade is in full defense mode here once again attacking everyone who doesn't agree with that whatever Blizzard does is right, period. Yes, a dump for my capped out points is nice, but the prices are outrageous, so I won't dump them on this stuff out of principle, oh that and I really don't need anymore mats for anything. I won't be buying this stuff and then crushing the economy of the game neither. These are the lamest "point vendors" Blizzard put in to date.

[Mathaios]

Prices are fine, they are supossed to be something to spend when you are point capped, not to make millions of gold with it.

[Brett Skullcrack]

Yeah, thanks but I'll rather hold on to my points and know 100% that I'll be at the cap when the next patch hits than blow insane amount on a single stack of ore and risk being under the cap when I actually need the points. I understand the need to give something to spend extra points on, but this is not accomplishing it given how ridiculous the prices are. It's not even close to worth my time to even walk to the vendor to get these.

[Evilution]

If you currently can buy WotLK/BC gems and just vendor them off, and make more money doing that
than buying the crap Blizz put in 4.0.6 for JP, how is that an improvement?
If you still think the incoming JP vendor is a great bonus, you need to check your head and math.
They can just as well skip putting the JP vendor in, or atleast add specific gems or other materials, i´d be more than
happy to spend JP on 3 of the specific gems needed for the Daily JC.
You say buy ores and prospect? I say duh, you can buy specific enchanting-mats. Try again.

[Deleted]

This is not something meant to be "worth spending jp on to get loads of profit"..This is merely for those who have nothing else to spend their points on and need some mats for some crafted piece...While they are too lazy to farm it or buy it off AH...

The prices are great except for the cloth, which is insanely overpriced compared to the rest. Quit your QQing, this aint meant to be a profitmachine

[Mang]

rofl nice absurdly overpriced items