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    Warlock Help! Dps wise

    So i've played my warlock since BC, i raided Black Temple and Sunwell, raided everything in Wotlk with my lock. I always was close to the top on meters. even though on some stuff in wotlk i was outgeared. I'm in a pretty high end Raid guild, yet i can barely pull respectable numbers. My most recent simcraft is 20k dps here is my latest parse from BH.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/w...1/?s=217&e=440

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...as/ßuf/simple

    I have gotten some upgrades since that parse. but i still was underperforming for what my gear was at.

    I was hoping i could get some help from you folks to let me know if you notice something glaringly wrong. I have read and read on everything i can, and yet i can barely keep up with the rest of my raid.

    Help!

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    Simcraft vs logs never work, simcraft is patchwerk style I assume ?
    Seeing your logs your doing 10-mans, certain you got all the major buffs ?
    Why are you gemming haste while int is like 2,5 times better ?
    Using Infernal ?

    Do you clip immolate ?
    Do your refresh your Corruption at 1/2 sec to go ?
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    Immolate uptime is crap, 82% is extremely low. Think about it this way, 82% means 78 ticks, so 96% would be another 15 ticks or so, or another 350 dps.
    Corruption uptime is equally low, as is Bane of Doom (you stopped casting it too soon). Probably another 300 dps, plus another 450 if it had proc'd an Ebon Imp.
    59.6% uptime on Improved Soul Fire is bad. This is effectively 15% x .596 = 8.9% haste. Had you had the other 6.1%, that would have been another 900 dps.
    23 Conflagrates, glyphed is 184s. You could have gotten 5 more, as well as the 15 extra hasted Incinerates, which would have been 3 free Incinerates more (150 dps)
    Chaos Bolt could have been cast more (100 dps increase)
    If you're on Argaloth, you should be using shadowflame on cooldown. For every Incinerate you replaced with Shadowflame, you would have done an extra 2000 damage. (150dps)

    Net increase, in 100% best conditions based on numbers: 2400, not including other effects I can't math out
    Other effects include more shadowflames = less unhasted Incinerates = higher damage from incinerate, or using Chaos and Incinerate when Immolate has fallen off, or casting Immolate or Corruption when ISF was down, etc.

    Fel Flame was unnecessary, seeing as you can time the casts as the fire lands on you. But I at least you did something, which is better than the alternative.
    Last edited by gherkin; 2011-01-24 at 08:36 PM.

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    Thank you for the constructive criticism. I will work on getting these numbers up and maybe post an improved parse of BH this week.

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    It could be that WoL doesn't show this ability, but using the log parser I couldn't find a single time you use Demonic Circle: Teleport. Proper movement is key to good dps. Only moving barely outside the fire radius provides much more casts than running even a second longer. When fires are gone, teleport back to your spot so you can begin casting again right away.

    For purely rotational problems, Gherkin mentioned everything you need to work on.

    I also do not see the use of an Infernal within the last 45s of the fight, this is a substancial DPS loss. From my (probably shitty) math, I evaluate this to a 467.94 DPS loss by not using the Infernal.

    Summing all values provided by Gherkin and some additional calculations of my own:

    +350 from Immolate
    +349.8812777 from Corruption (with improved ISF uptime)
    +367.7168599 from just Soul Fire damage required to improve ISF up to 100% (would also be higher due to Burning Embers)
    +403.5951527 from Improving Conflag casts
    +467.94 from Infernal

    = + 1939.13329 DPS just from improving rotation, and this is a very conservative number as not all of benefits have been considered (Burning Embers, hasted Incinerates, BoD uptime, whether you were properly clipping DoTs... etc etc, just a rough analysis in the short break I have between classes)
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    my only comment i want to make is that ISF is never going to make 100% especially when you have Bloodlust to deal with. but yest it should be closer in a fight like this to 75 -80%

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    36s of uptime out of 223 seconds = 16.1%, you should therefore have had 80%+ in a perfect situation.

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    I mention and use 100% for simplicity sake, as in, you may improve DPS UP TO ___.___ by increasing uptime from current_uptime to 100%

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    zvix, what is the addon that gives the bars just above your cast bar? I think this would be useful in my current setup? It looks like a modified SBF or Raven.

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    Thank you very much to everyone,

    this week went much better. Here is my individual parses for Bwd and BoT

    Magmaw:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...?s=1509&e=1900

    Omnitron our WoL person lagged out. not a valid parse. I still did top 2 damage.

    Chimaeron:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...?s=3280&e=3615

    Atramedes:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...?s=6003&e=6437

    Maloriak: AS Demo
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...?s=6819&e=7170

    Argaloth:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...?s=7655&e=7845

    Halfus: My imp was on passive for this fight didn't realise till we were pulling trash
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...?s=9332&e=9602

    Valiona and Theralion:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...=10228&e=10554

    Twilight Council:
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/6...=11874&e=12255

    Just looking at most of the parses I'm still really low on imp soul fire uptime, but from the above parses huge upgrades in immo and corruption uptime. Let me know if you see anything else that i could be doing wrong or if you have questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buf View Post
    zvix, what is the addon that gives the bars just above your cast bar? I think this would be useful in my current setup? It looks like a modified SBF or Raven.
    Buttontimers.

    And yeah, biggest DPS increase if knowing how to move and when to do stuff.
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    Quartz has that effect as well.
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