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    The PvE Fury Guide- Cataclysm Edition

    The is a repost of thebadme's fury guide that has been a sticky for a while now, and I'm merging the Pre-Raid Loot Sticky as well.

    Introduction to a PvE Fury Warrior

    So, some of you may or may not have read the fury warrior guide I made for WotLK. For those of you that did, I intend to be a lot more in depth, and a lot less awful this time around.
    For those of you who did not read my WotLK fury warrior guide, the basic premise is that this guide is intended for fury warriors looking to succeed in a PvE raiding environment. My goal is to provide as much accurate information as possible in a succinct manner. That being said there is a lot to cover so either read this guide in chunks, or find yourself a large block of time to read this and make sure you understand it.

    Table of Contents

    • The Video Guide
    • Talent Selection
    • Glyphs
    • Itemization
    • Rotation
    • Macros
    • UI
    • Other Useful Stuff
    The Video Guide

    Talent Selection

    Suggested spec:
    http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LG0cZcrrcszkMfdZb








    Titans Grip vs Single Minded Fury

    Currently TG has been putting out higher DPS parses, though there hasn’t been a ton of parses available for SMF, and regardless of which talent you go with, it’s not going to make or break your DPS. when I get some more time I intend to do extensive testing of SMF to see how it compares to TG. As for right now though I would just say try and go TG, but if you have better 1 handed weapons, go SMF.



    3/3 Deep Wounds vs 3/3 Incite

    Get 3/3 deep wounds. Even though crit values are pretty low right now the math is suggesting that the third point in deep wounds is more or less blowing the third point of incite out of the water. If you are really interested in the math, see the math section at the end of this guide.


    Simply put: get 3 points in Deep wounds, and 2 Points in incite.




    About the Recommended filler talents, and why I chose them:



    Please note that just because a talent isn’t “recommended” does not mean it’s bad; there are sound arguments that can be made for all of the non-required talents.

    Rude Interruption

    On any fight that requires interrupting, having rude interruption is pretty much amazing, it’s fairly self explanatory.

    Piercing Howl
    Any time there are kite-able adds that can be slowed this ability is incredibly useful, there aren’t a lot of fights that would get a lot of use out of this ability currently, but I have no doubt in my mind that there will be encounters where this ability will shine.

    Heroic Fury
    Any time there is a lot of movement involved (meaning pretty much every fight) heroic fury can substantially increase your uptime on a target, and thereby increase your DPS.

    Meat Cleaver
    Any time you are going to be able to use cleave you want this talent, simply put.

    Incite
    This could probably be considered a required talent, but if I absolutely needed to drop a DPS talent to get some other situational talents, this would be my first choice.

    Field Dressing
    Pretty self explanatory, it helps you not die.

    Blitz
    Can be useful for getting an extra rage boost at the very start of an encounter
    Glyphs

    Prime glyphs:

    Basically no variance for what you can viably pick:
    Bloodthirst
    Raging Blow

    Slam

    These are the only 3 prime glyphs that affect abilities we use.


    Major glyphs:

    Lots of solid options, go with your personal preference (* denotes what I personally use)

    *Cleaving
    Any time there are more than two targets within close proximity this glyph is awesome (unless you are supposed to CC those mobs obviously).

    *Colossus Smash
    Any time you have to sustain a sunder stack you want this glyph.

    *Deathwish
    It saves healer mana, which can then be used to help your raid not wipe. Get this.

    Heroic Throw
    If you Have to do sunders your self, get this glyph so you can use it at the start of combat.

    Victory Rush
    saves healer mana, though on most fights it's not going to be as useful as glyph of Deathwish.


    Minor Glyphs:


    Again, lots of solid options (* denotes what I personally use)

    Battle
    Honestly you probably aren't going to need this because you will more than likely be using battle shout on cooldown for rage, so really this doesn't change anything for you unless you don't need the rage but need to sustain the buff, or if you expect to die before the end of the fight (which shouldn't happen).

    *Berserker Rage
    GET THIS. getting a rage boost that's off the GCD is awesome, and you can use it to build a rage bar out of combat.

    *Bloody Healing
    it helps you not die, and saves a bit of healer mana.

    *Furious sundering
    if you have to sunder, get this.

    Command
    Same as glyph of battle.







    Itemization

    Stat Priorities

    Hit(till 8%) > Expertise(till 26) > Strength >[ Hit> Haste](until Rage generation is adequate) > Crit > Mastery > Hit> Haste


    please note that the only reason why hit/haste is located where it is, is due to the increase in rage generation it provides. once you feel comfortable with how much rage you are generating, then you should begin itemizing for other stats.



    What gems should I use?



    You should use what ever gems are going to activate your meta gem, then for the rest of your sockets use what ever gems result in the largest DPS increase.

    But that didn't answer the question


    I know. What stats result in the largest DPS increase varries greatly depending on what your stats currently are, so I can't make a blanket statement about what gems are going to be the best for you, beyond saying that they are probably in the list below:

    Meta Gems:

    Chaotic Shadowspirit Diamond



    Red Gems:

    Bold Chimera's Eye
    (Jewelcrafter only)
    Precise Chimera's Eye (Jewelcrafter only)
    Bold Inferno Ruby
    Precise Inferno Ruby


    Blue Gems:

    Rigid Chimera's Eye (Jewelecrafter only)
    Rigid Ocean Sapphire


    Yellow Gems:


    Smooth Chimera's Eye
    (Jewelecrafter only)
    Fractured Chimera's Eye (Jewelecrafter only)
    Quick Chimera's Eye (Jewelecrafter only)
    Smooth Amberjewel
    Fractured Amberjewel
    Quick Amberjewel

    Orange Gems:


    Skillful Ember Topaz
    Fierce Ember Topaz
    Inscribed Ember Topaz
    Keen Ember Topaz


    Purple Gems:


    Accurate Demonseye
    Etched
    Demonseye
    Sovereign Demonseye


    Green Gems:


    Sensei's Dream Emerald

    Piercing Dream Emerald
    Lightning Dream Emerald



    What enchants should I get?



    Head:
    Arcanum of The Wildhammer (Alliance)
    Arcanum of the Dragonmaw (Horde)

    Shoulders:
    Greater Inscription of Jagged Stone

    Cloak:
    Greater Critical Strike

    Chest:
    Peerless Stats


    Bracers:
    Greater Speed
    OR
    Greater Critical Strike

    Gloves:
    Mighty Strength

    Belt:
    Ebonsteel Belt Buckle

    Legs:
    Dragonscale Leg Armor

    Boots:
    Lavawalker (run speed enchants are always the best)

    Main Hand:
    Landslide

    Off Hand:
    Landslide
    Rotation

    Note:
    BT = Bloodthirst
    RB = Raging Blow
    CS = Colossus Smash
    HS = Heroic Strike
    GCD= Global Cooldown (1.5 seconds)
    Slam = Implies using a Bloodsuge proc (Read: an Instant Slam, as opposed to casting slam)


    CS > RB > BT > Slam > HS

    On an exact time-line:

    0.0-Colossus Smash
    1.5-Bloodthirst
    3.0-Raging Blow
    4.5-Bloodthirst
    6.0-Slam
    7.5-Bloodthirst
    9.0-Raging Blow
    10.5-Bloodthirst
    12.0-Slam
    13.5-Bloodthirst
    15.0-Raging Blow
    16.5-Bloodthirst
    18.0-Slam
    19.5-Bloodthirst
    21.0-go to 0.0 (Colossus Smash)


    If you don't think you can remember that whole timescale, just remember:

    Use CS on cooldown
    BT-RB-BT-Slam


    Sub 20%
    Use Colossus Smash on cooldown and spam Execute. Also hit Berserker Rage on cooldown for extra rage. Easy peasy.





    Commonly asked questions about the rotation


    What should I do if I am not enraged, and therefore can't use Raging Blow?
    if BT is on cooldown, and you can't use RB, use a bloodsurge proc if you have one. if you don't, then either do nothing, or use that GCD for debuff management on your target or something.


    If RB>BT, why are we using a Bloodthirst over a Raging Blow immediately after using CS?
    By using Bloodthirst first, it allows you to ensure that you fill the GCD table for the 3 GCD's immediately following a CS, and by doing this the net damage gain is greater than the damage lost due to pushing back the use of Raging Blow.




    What about Heroic Strike?
    HS should be used when ever you get a battle trance proc, and when ever you have excess rage.


    How will I know when I have "excess rage"?


    Unfortunately the correct is basically "after spending a ton of time practicing you will be able to have a good feel for how much rage you are generating, and then be able to know when the best time to use HS is."

    However, as a generalized blanket statement, if you have more than 60 rage, that is the time to use Heroic Strike.
    Shouldn’t we use slam every time we get a Bloodsuge proc instead of using procs after every second BT?
    Nope.

    Why?

    When you delay the use of the 2nd BT, you get a rotation that looks like this:

    0.0 BT
    1.5 RB
    3.0 Slam
    4.5 BT (-1/2 BT)
    6.0 Slam
    7.5 RB (BT comes off CD)
    9.0 BT(-1/2 BT)
    Etc.

    By delaying the 2nd BT, you actually end up losing a full BT every time this happens, and because the potential gain is only 1 extra slam, which hits for less that BT, it is a DPS loss to delay the use of the 2nd BT.

    Please keep in mind that the above statement is assuming that you have the rage to use the second BT, if you do not have the rage to do it, but you have a Bloodsurge proc; then by all means use that proc, because some damage is better than no damage.



    What ability should I use when I get a Battle Trance proc?
    Heroic Strike

    Why?


    Heroic Strike has the lowest damage per rage of any of our abilities, even though it's damage is really high. Because it's rage cost is so inefficient, it makes using HS on Battle Trance procs the most efficient use of that proc. Also because the fact that
    Heroic Strike is off the GCD, it means that you can use a Battle Trance on a HS, and use the rage that you saved for a RB.

    If Heroic Strike happens to be on cooldown when you get your Battle Trance proc, use it on a Raging Blow.


    Please note that Battle Trance currently has the following bugs associated with it:


    What about Inner Rage?
    Currently there are a lot of inherent problems with Inner Rage that I personally think make it way more of a hassle than it's worth .

    The biggest problem is that right now our rage generation is nowhere near high enough to viably use Inner rage for its entire 15 second duration. What I mean by this is that when you use it, you burn through your rage, but then you are left with ~10 seconds left on the buff. If you leave the buff on you lose DPS because of the fact that you are going to be rage starved the rest of the time. This means that the only decent option is to make a cancelaura macro to remove it, which becomes a big hassle to try and manage that on top of managing your rage in general, and doing your rotation.

    One possibly viable option is to macro inner rage in to slam, and macro /canelaura Inner Rage in to heroic strike. I have not personally tested this so I cannot attest to how viable it is or how much of a difference it makes.

    My personal opinion is that I would either like to have the buff fall off once you get below 30 rage again, or make the duration less (make it last ~5 seconds).
    Macros

    Retaliation

    #showtooltip Retaliation
    /cast [stance:3] Battle Stance; [nostance:3] Berserker Stance
    /cast [stance:1] Retaliation

    Intervene


    #showtooltip intervene
    /cast [nostance:2] Defensive Stance; [help] Intervene; [target=targettarget, help] Intervene


    Shield Wall

    #showtooltip Shield Wall
    /stopattack
    /cast [stance:2] Shield Wall; Defensive Stance
    /stopmacro [equipped:Shields]
    /equip INSERT SHIELDS NAME HERE
    /attack




    Intercept/Heroic Fury

    #showtooltip
    /castsequence reset=1 Intercept, Heroic Fury, Heroic Fury, Heroic Fury


    Slam

    #showtooltip Slam
    /cast slam
    /stopcasting







    UI

    I'm not really going to rehash what was said in the video, but what I will do is give you links to some addons that will do the things that were mentioned in the video



    Rage tracking/unit frames:

    Pitbull4
    IceHUD
    Shadowed unit frames


    Proc tracking/Enrage tracking:

    Power Auras
    SBF (satrina buff frame)
    Elkano's Buff Bars


    Cooldown Tracking:

    OmniCC
    Cooldown Count
    CoolLine Cooldowns




    The math/advanced stuff section


    So yeah, if you are afraid of lots of math or complex jargon filled statements, I suggest you hit the "page down" button a few times


    you might want to download my incredibly unorganized spreadsheet, pretty much all of the math is done in there and you can play around with things.



    enrage uptime:
    (1-deathwish uptime)*(1-(1-enrage proc chance)^(hit's per enrage duration))

    (1-(30/144))*(1-(1-.09)^x)



    incite math

    Deriving my equation from THIS POST
    please note that the equation is only calculating the crit GAIN, if you want the actual HS crit value just add a +x


    1pt:
    ((1-x)*(x+(1*0.05))*((1/3)+(1*0.05)))/((1+(((x+(1*0.05))*(1/3)))))
    2pts:
    ((1-x)*(x+(2*0.05))*((2/3)+(2*0.05)))/((1+(((x+(2*0.05))*(2/3)))))
    3pts:
    ((1-x)*(x+(3*0.05))*((3/3)+(3*0.05)))/((1+(((x+(3*0.05))*(3/3)))))

    in case you are interested, here's the graph of the above equations:





    1pt maximum
    x=0.4357
    2pt maximum
    x=0.3748
    3pt maximum
    x=0.3168

    you can use these values to determine the DPS gain from incite,meaning we can use these equations to evaluate whether the 3rd point in incite or deep wounds will be the best.

    Deep wounds:

    determine the damage of each MH and OH stack of deep wounds for both 2/3 and 3/3

    determine mainhand stack crits/sec, then OH stack crits/sec
    multiply MH crits/sec by the MH stack damage, and OH crits/sec by OH stack damage.

    for the 2/3 deep wounds crits/sec calculation make sure you are using values from the 3/3 incite equation, and for the 3/3 deep wounds calculation make sure you are using values from the 2/3 incite equation.


    a brief summary of the results:

    getting the 3rd point in deep wounds results in a gain of about ~180 DPS. assuming about 85% HSF, the third point in incite only results in a 158 DPS increase. In fact the only time 3/3 incite is resulting in a larger gain than 3/3 deep wounds is at 100% HSF, and the gain is a whopping 2 DPS.

    Guide to Pre-Raid Loot and Enchants


    Head
    Enchants:
    (Heirloom / Reputation) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62422 - 60 Strength + 35 Mastery Rating
    (Heirloom / Reputation) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62368 - 60 Strength + 35 Mastery Rating

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56278 - From Mindbender Ghur'sha in Throne of the Tides
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63478) - From Vanessa VanCleef in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58098 - Bought with 2,200 Justice Points

    Neck
    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67138 - World Drop. Actually named "Buc-Zakai Choker"
    (ilevel 359 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62447 - From Ramkahen at Exalted.
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56421 - From Ammunae in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56360 - From Grand Vizier Ertan in The Vortex Pinnacle
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63438 - From Baron Silverlane in Shadowfang Keep
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57930 - Bought with 1,250 Justice Points

    Shoulder
    Enchants:
    (Epic / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62345 - 50 Strength + 25 Critical Strike Rating
    (Blue / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62344 - 30 Strength + 20 Critical Strike Rating

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63470 - From Glubtok in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56318 - From Ascendant Lord Obsidius in Blackrock Caverns
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58100 - Bought with 1,650 Justice Points

    Cloak
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74247 - 65 Critical Strike Rating

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56304 - From Karsh Steelbender in Blackrock Caverns
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56275 - From Commander Ulthok in Throne of Tides
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56397 - From Siamat in Lost City of the Tol'vir
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63467 - From Glubtok in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56355 - Zone Drop in The Stonecore
    (ilevel 333 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62437 - From Ramkahen at Honored
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63760 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/28758 in Twilight Highlands

    Chest
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74250 - 20 All Stats

    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55060 - Created with 515 Blacksmithing
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56425 - From Earthrager Ptah in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63458 - From Lord Godfrey in Shadowfang Keep
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58096 - Bought with 2,200 Justice Points
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63831 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27651 in Twilight Highlands
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63827 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/28595 in Twilight Highlands
    (ilevel 333 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55032 - Created with 425 Blacksmithing
    (ilevel 333 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/66992 - World Drop?

    Bracer
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74248 - 50 Critical Strike Rating
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74256 - 50 Haste Rating

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67238 - World Drop?
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57870 - From Anraphet in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56301 - From Karsh Steelbender in Blackrock Caverns

    Glove
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74255 - 65 Mastery Rating
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74254 - 50 Strength
    (480 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74220 - 50 Expertise
    (455 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74198 - 50 Haste

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63474 - From Helix Gearbreaker in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56336 - From Slabhide in The Stonecore
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62430 - From Wildhammer Clan at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62408 - From Dragonmaw Clan at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58099 - Bought with 1,650 Justice Points

    Belt
    Enchants:
    (Blue / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55054 - Crafted with 525 Blacksmithing

    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62384 - From Guardians of Hyjal at Exalted
    (ilevel 359 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55061 - Crafted with 510 Blacksmithing
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56447 - From Forgemaster Throngus in Grim Batol
    (ilevel 346 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67235 - World Drop?
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57913 - Bought with 1,650 Justice Points

    Legs
    Enchants:
    (Epic / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56550 - Crafted with 425 Leatherworking

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56367 - From Asaad in The Vortex Pinnacle
    (ilevel 346 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56294 - Zone Drop in Throne of the Tides
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58097 - Bought with 2,200 Justice Points
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/66911 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/28746 in Halls of Origination

    Boots
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74253 - Movement Speed Increase + 35 Mastery Rating
    (510 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74238 - 50 Mastery Rating
    (505 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74236 - 50 Hit Rating
    (455 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74199 - 50 Haste Rating

    Items:
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56381 - From General Husam in Lost City of the Tol'vir
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62382 - From Guardians of Hyjal at Revered
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63705 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27787 in Twilight Highlands
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63701 From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27788 in Twilight Highlands

    Ring/s
    (ilevel 359 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67139 - World Drop. Actually named "Blauvelt's Family Crest"
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56457 - From Erudax in Grim Batol
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56415 - From Isiset in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56388 - From High Prophet Barim in Lost City of the Tol'vir
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56299 - From Corla, Herald of Twilight in Blackrock Caverns
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56365 - From Altarius in Vortex Pinnacle
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56444 - From General Umbriss in Grim Batol
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62350 - From Therazane at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62440 - From Ramkahen at Revered
    (ilevel 333 / Reputation) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62375 - From Guardians of Hyjal at Honored

    Trinket/s
    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62049 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27665 at Darkmoon Faire
    (ilevel 359 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59461 - World Drop
    (ilevel 359 / Reputation) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62469 - From Baradin's Wardens at Exalted
    (ilevel 359 / Reputation) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62464 - From Hellscream's Reach at Exalted
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56393 - From Augh in Lost City of the Tol'vir
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56345 - From High Priestess Azil in Stonecore
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56458 - From Erudax in Grim Batol
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56285 - From Neptulon's Cache in Throne of the Tides
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56431 - From Rajh in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 333 / Reputation) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65175 - From Baradin's Wardens at Honored
    (ilevel 333 / Reputation) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65176 - From Hellscream's Reach at Honored
    (ilevel 333 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/66994 - World Drop?

    Two-handed Weapon/s
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74246 - "...sometimes increase attack power by 1000 for 12 sec when striking in melee..."
    (480 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74223 - "...sometimes increase haste rating by 450 for 12 sec when casting spells or dealing melee damage..."
    (470 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74211 - "...sometimes disrupt elementals when struck by your melee attacks, dealing Arcane damage and silencing them for 5 sec..."
    (450 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74197 - "...often deal 463 to 537 Nature damage to an enemy struck by your melee attacks..."

    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / BoA) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/64377 - Created with 450 Archaeology.
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63445 - From Commander Springvale in Shadowfang Keep
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62473 - From Baradin's Wardens at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62454 - From Hellscream's Reach at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65165 - From Foe Reaper 5000 in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56342 - From Ozruk in The Stonecore
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56284 - From Neptulon's Cache in Throne of the Tides
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56456 - From Erudax in Grim Batol
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63787 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27868 in Twilight Highlands
    (ilevel 333 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/66993 - World Drop?

    One-handed Weapon/s
    Enchants:
    (525 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74246 - "...sometimes increase attack power by 1000 for 12 sec when striking in melee..."
    (480 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74223 - "...sometimes increase haste rating by 450 for 12 sec when casting spells or dealing melee damage..."
    (470 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74211 - "...sometimes disrupt elementals when struck by your melee attacks, dealing Arcane damage and silencing them for 5 sec..."
    (450 Enchanting) http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/74197 - "...often deal 463 to 537 Nature damage to an enemy struck by your melee attacks..."

    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / BoA) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/64885 - Created with 450 Archaeology
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56364 - From Altairus in Vortex Pinnacle
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65166 - From Foe Reaper 5000 in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65171 - From "Captain" Cookie in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56384 - From High Prophet Barim in Lost City of the Tol'vir
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65170 - From Admiral Ripsnarl in The Deadmines
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56430 - From Rajh in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 346 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67605 - Crafted with 520 Blacksmithing
    (ilevel 346 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55067 - Crafted with 515 Blacksmithing
    (ilevel 346 / Vendor) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/57929 - Bought with 950 Justice Points
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63804 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/28282 in Twilight Highlands
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63799 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/28133 in Twilight Highlands

    Ranged Weapon
    Going to allow greens here as an exception since there are very few well itemised ranged weapons
    Items:
    (ilevel 359 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/68162 - From Cataclysm Lockboxes
    (ilevel 346 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59364 - Crafted with 525 Engineering
    (ilevel 346 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59367 - Crafted with 525 Engineering
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56317 - From Ascendant Lord Obsidius in Blackrock Caverns
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56366 - From Asaad in The Vortex Pinnacle
    (ilevel 346 / Dungeon) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56420 - From Ammunae in Halls of Origination
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62479 - From Baradin's Wardens at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / Reputation) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/62460 - From Hellscream's Reach at Revered
    (ilevel 346 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56376 - From Asaad in The Vortex Pinnacle
    (ilevel 333 / Quest) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63791 - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27868 in Twilight Highlands
    (ilevel 333 / BoE) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/66973 - World Drop?
    (ilevel 333 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59599 - Crafted with 495 Engineering
    (ilevel 333 / Crafted) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59598 - Crafted with 490 Engineering
    (level 318 / Quest) Alliance http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63739/s...-blunderbuss// - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27652/dark-assassins/ in Twilight Highlands
    (level 318 / Quest) Horde http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/63736/muffled-blunderbuss/ - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/27653/dark-assassins/ in Twilight Highlands
    (level 312 / Quest) http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/65813/s...nlaid-crossbow - From http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/28480/l...s-of-darkness/ in Uldum
    Last edited by Battousai; 2011-01-28 at 09:08 PM.
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    Just wondering if there is anyone that knows what the best enchant is right now for fury warriors? Ignoring the 1000ap one cause i'll not waste cash on a blue item

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    You should use Hurricane then

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    thank you for the guide! very handy

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    good guide but i was looking for reforging info and its not covered in the guide

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    Very nice guide, just want to ask - is this updated for 4.0.6 or whatever the next patch is called?

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    There is a lot of math on EJ showing 3/3 incite is better than 3/3 deep wounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakto View Post
    There is a lot of math on EJ showing 3/3 incite is better than 3/3 deep wounds.
    does that take into account the upcoming nerfs to heroic strike?

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    I'm using 3/3 on incite i did notice some better dps than 3/3 deep wounds, this requires more hit from you so you can gain more rage to spam HS, and ofc no Doylo this does not count for the upcaming patch they are nerfing HS because people don't use HS as a rage dump anymore they're using it for more DPS, after the patch you will only use HS to rage dump.

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    The math still says 3/3 incite is better than 3/3 deep wounds after the patch, flurry up time etc etc

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    Wtb this guide for hunters and priest!!!!!!!!

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    Great job, this will help me a lot thanks.

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    Couple things I noticed, you have RB listed before BT in your priority line, but then you say just below it to use BT first. Also, the <20% needs updated, spamming Exe isn't worth it anymore based on 4.0.6 DPR numbers, iirc you use enough Exe for the stacked buff, then normal rotation and just enough Exe to maintain stacks. Also, do we know whether Hybrid gems work out to more than using Primary color gems for sockets? aka orange/green/purp vs R/B/Y. Or is it too close to matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister Knight View Post
    Couple things I noticed, you have RB listed before BT in your priority line, but then you say just below it to use BT first. Also, the <20% needs updated, spamming Exe isn't worth it anymore based on 4.0.6 DPR numbers, iirc you use enough Exe for the stacked buff, then normal rotation and just enough Exe to maintain stacks.
    With SMF becoming more competitive we need to also have separate rotation sections now. I believe SMF gains from putting Slam above RB and Execute is the best move you can use below 20% for SMF. But this is all I could gather from the discussions on EJ, and I could be very wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister Knight View Post
    Couple things I noticed, you have RB listed before BT in your priority line, but then you say just below it to use BT first. Also, the <20% needs updated, spamming Exe isn't worth it anymore based on 4.0.6 DPR numbers, iirc you use enough Exe for the stacked buff, then normal rotation and just enough Exe to maintain stacks. Also, do we know whether Hybrid gems work out to more than using Primary color gems for sockets? aka orange/green/purp vs R/B/Y. Or is it too close to matter?
    Str is your number 1 stat so you would use pure red as much as possible and any blue socket you will also use a str gem (purple) and in yellow you will use a str gem (orange) if the bonuses are worth it, otherwise gem full str.

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    Will this build change with the patch today?
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    Possibly with the changes to HS.
    When you shoop da whoop, you feel powerful and don't want to lose it, and then a guy in plate armor comes and turns your woop against the shoop, hence, making you got laz0red.

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    3/3 incite has been better than 3/3 Deep Wounds all of Cata, the build on this thread should reflect that.

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    Yes, but it may not be anymore...
    When you shoop da whoop, you feel powerful and don't want to lose it, and then a guy in plate armor comes and turns your woop against the shoop, hence, making you got laz0red.

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    Do we still need 27 % hit has fury ?

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