let mind flay be cast when running ?

[Abandon]

Letting you channel it while moving would be a little much, but it would be nice if the snare lasted a little longer than the duration. If each tick put a two or three second snare on them, that way the snare would actually do something other than rooting you in place and making them take very slightly longer to get to you.

No way!

SP's would be WAY too powerful in arenas if what was the case.

The idea of a SP is: yes, if a melee hits you, it will hurt, but the SP can and should use dots and kite the melees (by kite, I mean PROPER kite, ie: dot himup and run behind a objet, ...). If you do that well, melees shouldn't give you too much of a hard time

Ah yes, I'll just Dot him up and run away and....what's this? He's running after me? MY PLAN IS FOILED.

[Crudelitas]

yeah if you can't open up while he's feared and you are not slowed, there's something wrong with you there.
losing dispel was a kick in the nuts, but really... shadow priests are still very good against most classes and balanced with others. don't blame your l2p issues on the spec please.

[Ultima]

Ah yes, I'll just Dot him up and run away and....what's this? He's running after me? MY PLAN IS FOILED.

Beat me to it. What is the mystical kiting you speak of? At least our Warlock friends get a "snare", along with a cooldown-less Fear which doesn't need to be cast in melee.

[Abandon]

Beat me to it. What is the mystical kiting you speak of? At least our Warlock friends get a "snare", along with a cooldown-less Fear which doesn't need to be cast in melee.

Maybe we are supposed to kite them using Mind Flay. I know it's totally easy to outrun someone when they are moving at 50% speed and I am moving at 0% speed.

[worsthitmanNa]

fight a warrior with common sense and comeback and say that an undead sub rogue will eat u alive as well

---------- Post added 2011-04-22 at 08:40 PM ----------

u have to stand and cast mind flay so u really are just stalling the ass whooping tbh

---------- Post added 2011-04-22 at 08:44 PM ----------

Shadow is only good vs rets and ferals every other melee has a fear breaker now and hits like a truck. i wouldn't mind a snare feral kind of got compensated for the the lose of root breakers but their fear breaker was op for sure. I hope we get something beside more dmg cause i do enough maybe dispel protection or a snare either would be nice.

---------- Post added 2011-04-22 at 08:50 PM ----------

shadow is anti caster not anti melee every melee but rets and ferals destroy us tbh.

---------- Post added 2011-04-22 at 09:05 PM ----------

psychic horrors is trinket able shamans, warriors, dk's have fear breakers outside of a trinket so we cant cc them for a total of 23 seconds that's a lot of time to get trained. yes we have dispersion but that 6 second and is or mana regen shamans can purge our shields and they hit for tiny amounts of dmg so no masochism proc's. dk's destroy us their is no point in making a list lol. warrior destroy us a good warrior will never lose to a shadow priest period.

[luckybeer]

We are extremely potent against melee assuming all of our cooldowns are up. If psychic horror/fear/dispersion are all on cd then we are in a bit of trouble, but no more then any other class in that situation.

If caught in a jam with no cd's, you'll want to juke the interrupt and pray you can land a vampiric touch. Try and survive the beating with PWS/4pc/fade. Once your fear is ready to go he should have full dots on him and preferably no trinket/cd. you can either heal yourself during that fear or try and facemelt him down(something we are extremely good at it)

[Direshadow]

Maybe you could mind flay someone and you gain a buff of some sort that lasts a few seconds after you finish casting.

Then when you cast Shadow Word: Death, your target suffers a 50% movement speed for 3 seconds also consuming the buff you had.

[Gharld]

From a PvP perspective, w/e. But if they did this, Spriests would be even more OP in a PvE environment, for they would then be able to just run around and spam mind flay while spawing a small army of shadow clones.

[Direshadow]

From a PvP perspective, w/e. But if they did this, Spriests would be even more OP in a PvE environment, for they would then be able to just run around and spam mind flay while spawing a small army of shadow clones.

the make it so you can cast mind flay while moving, but the spell damage is reduced by 50%

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[BatteredRose]

I think it should be a great idea to let mind flay to be cast when running , since shadow priests are very weak when a meele is hunting them , Devouring plague is the only spell we have then , And it sux , atleast i think mind flay would be great if it could be cast when running

What do you think?

Sure, just give all melee perma-spell reflect.

[Direshadow]

How about whenever you crit with regular Mind Flay, then you have a 10 second buff that lets you cast while moving?

[Deleted]

Nah, Would be waaaaay OP in both PvE and PvP. The majority of our damage comes from DoTs.

From a PvP perspective, you need to learn to kite. LoS them, use fear/PH properly to gain distance, and when you are being wailed on Disperse. We are probably very strong against melee tbh.

[DeltrusDisc]

If you can't get a melee guy off you then stop playing shadow priests. I can do just fine and I don't need a mind flay that I can cast while moving, lol.

---------- Post added 2011-04-23 at 01:52 AM ----------

We are probably very strong against melee tbh.

Not probably - are.

[fizikz]

Nah, Would be waaaaay OP in both PvE and PvP. The majority of our damage comes from DoTs.

From a PvP perspective, you need to learn to kite. LoS them, use fear/PH properly to gain distance, and when you are being wailed on Disperse. We are probably very strong against melee tbh.

you have either 1. never played ANY other caster class or 2. are facing some of the worst mouth breathing melee that I have never in all my years of random bg's encountered.

you do not "kite" on a shadow priest. you hope to god that for some reason the melee's fear break is already on cooldown, or you sit there and tank them, and put up VT in your 3 second horror with a 1 second disarm after it LOL...what a joke.

how do you propose that we use fear to gain distance? they fear break or trinket and we're slowed by at LEAST 50% while they run .5 seconds worth of fear only 1/2 the time AWAY from us...... just wondering what huge secret trick I am missing out on here.

oh yeah, and if for any chance fear does open a gap up....every melee except rets has a cap closer on the same or shorter CD than our fear..... so GG....

---------- Post added 2011-04-22 at 09:57 PM ----------

If you can't get a melee guy off you then stop playing shadow priests. I can do just fine and I don't need a mind flay that I can cast while moving, lol.

---------- Post added 2011-04-23 at 01:52 AM ----------



Not probably - are.

If you're so amazing at kiting on a shadow priest, don't just say so then not give us any details. enlighten us with your infinite wisdom of kiting.


I'm expecting you to post something along the lines of "lol well i play with a frost mage so..."

[worsthitmanNa]

could u post a video of u beating a 2400 rated warrior and dk plz i want to learnz

[DeltrusDisc]

If you're so amazing at kiting on a shadow priest, don't just say so then not give us any details. enlighten us with your infinite wisdom of kiting.

Been stated in this thread already, but a simple use of fear/PH/dispersion/fade can really extend your life by quite a bit. Also having a fair amount of pvp gear helps out, even blue quality. If you're pvping in pve gear then that's the first problem.

Would you like me to now write out macros for usage of these spells and detailed descriptions of every possible encounter you may get into in different battlegrounds?

[worsthitmanNa]

i can beat a ehancement shaman but a dk and warrior make me just alt tabb and do my taxes. at least i got something done so : ).

[Promethieus]

Mind Flay IS a DoT... O.o
Although it would be kind of hilarious seeing Priests kite enemies with Mind Flay haha

[worsthitmanNa]

u do know PH is trinketable now right?

[fizikz]

Been stated in this thread already, but a simple use of fear/PH/dispersion/fade can really extend your life by quite a bit. Also having a fair amount of pvp gear helps out, even blue quality. If you're pvping in pve gear then that's the first problem.

look at that...you didn't actually post anything other than "use fear/disperson/fade" .....wow so helpful, you've totally proven your point that spriests are master kiters of melee.

Would you like me to now write out macros for usage of these spells and detailed descriptions of every possible encounter you may get into in different battlegrounds?

yes, clearly I am the one making the ridiculous claim that priests are amazing at kiting, and I should be the one to provide evidence... wait, no...that's you.