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  1. #201
    Everyone who says rift is like wow therefore boring shouldn't had expected anything else.

    It's like saying Legend of Dragoons is like final fantasy 7, or how Borderlands is like black ops, or how Virtua Fighter is like Tekken. Both rift and WoW are MMORPGS therefore they will share the same qualities, and especially since WoW is the best selling MMO, obviously more mmos are going to be modeled after it. Wow set the standards for the MMO genre and any other game out there trying to change it, is just going to fail.

    Rift is still a new game, so of course things feel limited or more can be added, because honestly it could. And that's what later expansions are for.
    Last edited by bloodstrider; 2011-04-25 at 05:11 AM.

  2. #202
    Wonder what these Rift players would say if they hadn't invested 6 yrs into Wow. Cata zones were uninteresting, they pretty much shared the same quest and storyline. The dailies are exactly the same on both sides of the fence. The formula for Wow endgame has not changed in the slightest as most of the player base has been doing the exact same thing for 5 straight months and 6 straight yrs lol.

  3. #203
    I still love how Rift states they were the "Next Gen MMO"...

    I admit i played on beta and thought it was enjoyable, once i'd killed the same boss from a Dark Rift 4 times whilst leveling from 10-20 though, it completely lost it's touch. It's claim is the next gen MMO with open ended rifts and towns being taken over and fighting to control and take back areas that the rifts take. That's not Next Gen, that's just an idea that gets extremely boring, very quickly.

    Sure WoW is that too, but It's a comfortable game that I would rather do that same thing over and over in a game i know back to front and have enjoyed for 5 years rather then do it in a new game and then have wasted like $70.

    What the MMO genre NEEDS is an ACTUAL NEXT GEN MMO. SWTOR is halfway there, storyline focused, complete voice-overs for all characters, what looks like an actually engaging storyline as you level up and then head off to indulge in dungeons and MMO specific activities. But even so it isn't there yet.

    There's alot of Hype over GW2, but i don't understand what's so special about it. After going to the website, watching some combat videos, there's honestly nothing that different about it. Your still typical mages and warriors, with the same standard skill set abilities, casting and questing. The only thing i noticed which was interesting was the "Events" where just exploring you can run into one and fight heaps of stuff and then a giant boss. Isn't that JUST like rifts??? Which will easily become a task after a few times, "Oh sheesh another event, leave the area". There is nothing Next Gen or that exciting about it. Just hype over nothing imo.

    I understand it's bloody hard to create a completely new MMO, quite frankly i think there's not much further people can take MMO's to make them a completely new experience. But honestly if it's not bringing anything new to the table, don't call yourself Next Gen and The most glorious MMO. Rift did that, and look where they are now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by darklogrus View Post
    Wonder what these Rift players would say if they hadn't invested 6 yrs into Wow
    I'll say WoW was fun for me, the fun wore off, i didn't renew my sub and i quit WoW...as simple as it can be...actually it's the second time i quit WoW for longer than a month..

    Went down the usual route, interested in end game content, was lucky enough to get into a very good Guild, server firsts blah blah yada yada but eventually raiding 5 hours a night, 5 nights a week kinda crept up on me and like Paul's Revelation on the Road to Damascus one day i just thought 'wtf? i'm ignoring the girlfriend, friends, for what exactly? stand around SW? yes, i was one of those, but at least standing around in T3 up to T6 meant 'something' so i quit....on the same night we killed Anub in TotC the same day he got opened

    Spent an enjoyable 10 months then following Frodo around in LoTR..was great to be a "casual" player, it certainly didn't feel like a full-time job anymore.

    Then around the middle of October some ex-Guildies starting getting hyped about Cataclysm, i took the bait, started revisiting WoWs ites including MMO and have to admit the old rush came back, it's like you quit smoking, have just adjusted to it and then you get stuck in a room full of smokers and the craving itch returns...

    Anyhow, bought into the whole "brand new World, see Azeroth like you never saw it before!!" right, went around all these "new. revamped zones" and guess what? same zones with maybe a bit of greenery slapped over it in the middle (Desolace), cut a hole in the canyon wall and 'fill' it with water (1,000 needles) worse still, been able to fly over them made it look worse, 'mountains' in between the Old World zones still looked like lumps of unmolded clay or just steaming piles of turds. The only place i though looked excellent was the Worgen town they added at the bottom of Blasted Lands, Surwich? the area around it, the forest looked real sweet, pity they didn't expand on that look for the other "revamped" zones...

    Anyhow, the initial novelty lasted 2 weeks, then...back to the grind...chain run Dungeons, chain run Heroics, step into raids and guess what? back to the 5 hours, 5 nights a week routine...no thanks, this time i walked away early and plan to stay that way....sorry if that might or might not upset some of the more "enthusiastic" WoW followers here but you're not paying or playing the game for me, playing RIFT now and having a blast, i'm back with my LoTR feel

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBubble View Post
    now now.. let them fool themselves what they will.. we dont want wow kiddies who feel the need to gloat because they cant play a game that doesnt have addons to do it for them.
    Do you even have the.. Wait, your trolling. You got to be.
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  6. #206
    Ill say it again:
    if you didnt like rift and are saying so by comparing it to wow then you wernt evan giving it a chance and never will, so good ridance as you are the kind of people that either kick, flame, dont help, or give up on someone after makeing any mistake be it for needing on something thats BoE even if they genuinly need and use it right in frunt of you and gem/enchant it just so you dont start being a twat to them, so go on get out of rift make the expirance better for those that did actualy give it half a chance.

    and fyi playing it to level cap or evan for a month if you had the attitude of "its going to be just like all the other wow killer" then ofc you wont like it, and even more wont due to you and you poor atitude so not only are you ruining the expiriance for those that like it but also those that may have liked it but are now not due to your biased feedback.

    *end rant*

    anyway rift is a good game its got a few things in common with wow but that said wow had things in common with its predicesors as its near imposible to be origonal anymore, they have 4 main callings each with 8 soul trees and one pvp soul that can only be got by doing a bit of PvP, the base 8 have 51 tree talents and as you move up them you gain the root stuff which is mostly combat abilitys and self/group buffs, the pvp tree has several tear that can only be accesed if you have a high enough pvp prestiege so someone that just started PvPing wont have as much as someone whos been doing it for ages.

    There are curently 4 BGs the first is to captuer an item that as you keep hold of it give you team points but also dammages you, the area that you fight in is relativly small so your garentied a lot of combat, and the closer you stand to the center the more points you gain but the more dammage youll take.
    The next if a base controll game, its relativly large but not so much that you can respond to an attack fast enough.
    The third is a capture the flag where you need to run accros a long open area thats narow enough that youll have to fight the enemy unless your both at either edge, hte bases are rather simple a wall at the frunt with 3 entry points, and inside the walls its relitivly easy to set up an ambush so stratagy can be used to take the flag.
    the last is a large port town ... i have yet to play it as i dont do pvp, and as most of the dedicated PvPers have gear and access to the upper PvP soul tree id likly die ... a lot.

    on low pop shards(survers) rift events may cause a lot of problems with NPCs and quest givers being killed but if you kill off the invations you gain rewards be it gear, item enhancments, curency, vanity pets, artifacts, or random other stuff you also get a good amount of exp so why not do it ? as youll level faster and get some good items on the way.

    now to the dungons there are quite a few each with a normal mode and exbert mode in exbert there are the T1 dungons that are the first few you encounter then there are the T2 which are those in the 35+ areas the difference between T1 and T2 is the dificalty and frequency of boss abilitys or close enough, they borth requier diffenernt amounts of "thoughness" (defnce rating), and the difference between Normal and Exbert is: you need to be 50 for exberts and Exberts have additionl bosses.

    thats about it, comparing it to wow there are some similarites but also differences most youll only find when you actualy play so if you are bord of wow give it a proper chance dont just go in thinking "itll be the same" and play for a month or to lvl cap cos you wont get anything out of it.
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  7. #207
    I played the free preview weekend for roughly 2 hours.

    I stopped when I realized that no matter how I speced my warrior it was going to play exactly like a ret paladin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilightdawn View Post
    I got to level 6 and decided that there was no point, playing a rogue was like playing a rogue, spam " SS " then the " Eviscerate " Plus, i was pretty annoyed when i picked blade dancer and nightblade and found that they had the exact same abilities, like really? " We have 9 spec choices for each class! * But they might all be the same *
    What makes this so sad is that it is so true. Almost all melee/ranged classes can be turned into one button macro monsters, with a few hot keys left over for reactive abilities which truly can be in the first macro if you want.

    The standard macro is
    cast reactive attack 1
    cast reactive attack 2
    cast twelve second cool down attack
    cast six second cool down attack
    cast whichever of the base attacks is best for need (threat or no threat one)

    Its was really sad. Once I macro'd all my characters they were as effective; if not more in some cases; and I started to look for my food pellet.

    Still its not like WOW is going to get my money, GC and crew wrecked it so badly I have no desire to return to it. It might do some things better than other games but its not the game I enjoyed playing for years anymore
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  9. #209
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    played rift till level 45, then ended my sub. I would not say it is a bad game, but after getting used to phasing, and the way questing works in wow, rift is just a step backwards for me.

  10. #210
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    Well shit, like I didn't see that one coming.

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    I like how the Rift fanboys are trying to convince themselves that they are not playing a shitty version of Wow, which got also boring after 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohai View Post
    I like how the WoW fanboys are trying to convince themselves that they are not playing a shitty version of Rift, which wouldn't get boring after 6 years.
    There you go, fixed a few of your typos for you..no need to thank me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daverid View Post

    There's alot of Hype over GW2, but i don't understand what's so special about it. After going to the website, watching some combat videos, there's honestly nothing that different about it. Your still typical mages and warriors, with the same standard skill set abilities, casting and questing. The only thing i noticed which was interesting was the "Events" where just exploring you can run into one and fight heaps of stuff and then a giant boss. Isn't that JUST like rifts??? Which will easily become a task after a few times, "Oh sheesh another event, leave the area". There is nothing Next Gen or that exciting about it. Just hype over nothing imo.
    You should watch some videos or go to a convention and play the game before you start thinking it is just like Rift. Yes, there are Warriors and Elementalist, but the skill system is much more different than other MMOs, and I rather not explain it right now.

    Also the dynamic events are not like Rifts. They don't just pop out of the sky every X of minutes with the same 1-5 waves of enemies. They don't always end the same way either. You could have a village being invaded and stop them and then it would chain out and have you help rebuild the village, gather supplies, etc or if you fail, the village would be taken, the invaders would upgrade the defenses of the village and starting taking over nearby villages if no one attempts to reclaim the village. That is just one event too, not every event is the same. You could be defending a village, escorting a caravan, killing an epic dragon, escorting ogres to gather water, save a burning village, and more. They all can chain out by succeeding or failing each chained event.

    Another big difference between the events and the Rifts are that the events take place of questing, while Rifts are just an alternative option in the game. The whole game is events, the only quests you do are for personal story and they are like quests you would do in a game like Fable.

    Yes, there is a lot of hype about the game because they are trying new things and it all seems great to most people. I think it will end up being a great game, but that is my opinion. But saying it is exactly like every other MMO and the events are just like Rifts is false.

    On Topic: I thought Rift was great for a few weeks, but it got a little repetitive for me.
    Last edited by Relente; 2011-04-25 at 03:30 PM.

  14. #214
    People are making it sound as if hitting endgame on Rift was/is hard. It's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipmat View Post
    There you go, fixed a few of your typos for you..no need to thank me
    i hope you see irony in your "fixing"

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    Frankly, Rift is nothing special. Most people will forget about it once SW:TOR and GW2 are released.

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    Playing WoW because Rift is "the same thing over and over" is, at least, hypocrisy.

  18. #218
    i made it to level 36 during the rift beta, and i got bored and decided not to buy it. i have to admit tho, the zones i leveled through looked great.
    ggg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hraklea View Post
    Playing WoW because Rift is "the same thing over and over" is, at least, hypocrisy.
    Actually, no. Because people already invested plently of time in WoW and are not going to restart on a game that is basically the same.

    As I said before, if you are tired/bored of WoW, Rift or any other similar MMORPG is not the solution.

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBubble View Post
    now now.. let them fool themselves what they will.. we dont want wow kiddies who feel the need to gloat because they cant play a game that doesnt have addons to do it for them.
    I may add that Rift has a macro system that lets you play the games with effectively 2-3 buttons.


    Just my two cents ;3

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