1. #28901
    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    Don't forget to most in the north, they thought Bran was dead and gone. Then suddenly shows up after svfew years and says he us the 3 eyed Raven. The north are supersticious I would bet many still don't trust him. Then you expect the rest of the kingdoms to accept him as king because he has stories. They would have been better off picking Gendry because " As a black Smith he knows what it takes to forge a strong Kingdom her DER her der"
    At least Gendry had a claim. It's fair in a way though, they had ended up in an unusual position where the throne which had always been taken by force, had just been taken and was also lost in such a way that left no successor. So whatever they did was going to be unconventional. The boardroom picks the CEO method was fine, a good addition even.

    But yeah, I don't get how Bran is this well known sympathetic figure to the people who chose him. My headcannon is that they all assumed they could control him, and took a "better him than my rival" approach to it. With a lot of fleshing out it could have made sense, it just wasn't =/

    Edit: would have loved to have seen less moping and more Sansa politicking on Bran's behalf, covertly working with Tyrion to execute this plan. Even with the limited time they had, they could have done more. 5 minutes could have laid any groundwork whatsoever.

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    Looking back on it

    The lack of screen time for Cersei this season was absurd. D&D thinking 6 episodes would do these characters justice is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Likewise Daenerys probably has a better arc, Bronn probably actually does some shit before becoming king(And has a defined purpose for doing so). It feels like D&D wanted all of these plot points to be secret to the last two episodes, but don't know how to do any sort of buildup.
    Is this a future leak? Bronn kills Bran to take his wheelchair for himself, he really is the new LF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunaqt View Post
    Is this a future leak? Bronn kills Bran to take his wheelchair for himself, he really is the new LF.
    Touche, I mistyped. My personal theory is that it was supposed to be Rickon on the iron throne, but D&D killed him before they found that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Neither were anyone else she killed. She's not big on asking for people to defend their actions, you'll note.
    Patently false. Others were given a choice and forewarned of the consequence of their actions. Now it wasn't always fair, and certainly motivated by power with only little regard for their situation, but it there was always a chance to bow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    That's the thing. Here's Dany's chain of thought;

    The world needs saving.
    I'm the only one who can save it.
    I need to sit the Iron Throne to do so, first.
    My people must have a reason to support me completely, or I will face constant questioning and rebellion.
    That support must come through either love, or fear.
    The people of Westeros do not love me, they reject me.
    Thus, to sit the throne, and use it to begin my conquest of the known world, the people of Westeros must fear me.
    So I'll burn King's Landing to ashes to show what happens to those who refuse to bend the knee. The rest will fall in line.

    /Snip .
    Except King's Landing and all the soldiers in it were in the act of surrendering, which directly contradicts both your assertion that she had been rejected and your assertion that it's qualitatively the same as what came before. This isn't just a quantity thing. Her actions very much are different. This is aberrant behaviour, even for her. And it wasn't sufficiently set up. Even if she views the soldiers as "rejecting" her, they surrendered. And if she had followed her past actions, she would've then given them a choice. She never did. This goes doubly for the smallfolk of King's Landing who didn't display rejection at all, but cowered from the beginning.
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  6. #28906
    Quote Originally Posted by mber341 View Post
    Wilding leader: where's Mance?
    Jon: he's dead.
    Wilding leader: how?
    Jon: i shot an arrow thru his heart.

    I think people are forgetting how Jon works.
    Yeah, him turning himself in and explaining what happened is perfectly in character, even moreso because he's consumed with guilt and grief over what he did. Jon has been choosing his honor over reason for 8 seasons, can't start complaining about him doing that now.

    What makes no sense at all is the Unsullied imprisoning the guy instead of executing him on the spot.

  7. #28907
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    Where did Jon even get a Sai? I've never seen a dagger like this on the entire show.
    It's more like a Stiletto, those actually do fit the late medieval-ish setting of the series. As in "Where", I mean how hard would it be for a guy to get a decent dagger being a commander of an army and having a pro assassin for a sister?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Touche, I mistyped. My personal theory is that it was supposed to be Rickon on the iron throne, but D&D killed him before they found that out.
    Figured, but made me chuckle when I read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mber341 View Post
    Wilding leader: where's Mance?
    Jon: he's dead.
    Wilding leader: how?
    Jon: i shot an arrow thru his heart.

    I think people are forgetting how Jon works.
    Any other way of explaining that situation makes Jon seem like he's weaseling out of his actions. By owning up to his actions, being willing to take the anger, and letting another wildling (Tormund) explain why, Jon actually manages to turn that into a non-issue. Being straight-up was about the only option he had, given that he would not have easily lied right there.

    In short, I think you're being a bit too hard on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    Touche, I mistyped. My personal theory is that it was supposed to be Rickon on the iron throne, but D&D killed him before they found that out.
    I'd love for him to end up Lord of Winterfell. Alas, the name of his dog does not bode well for his survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I suspect the ending will be different in the books, otherwise the Azor Ahai storyline was a dead end.

    Also: Jenny's Song? What was the point of that now?
    "Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akasha64 View Post
    Ok, then please explain to me why even after the Starbucks coffee cup incident, they still didn't learn a damn thing, and there's water bottles now on the set. This whole season seemed rushed.
    It's all those hours filming at night!!!! Can't see the bottles in the dark!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayma View Post
    Looking back on it

    The lack of screen time for Cersei this season was absurd. D&D thinking 6 episodes would do these characters justice is a joke.
    Seriously. It was like they were rationing her characters screen time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellorion View Post
    Yara should be Master of the Navy, make Davos Master of Laws. He is a both an honorable knight and a smuggler. He knows both sides and has a good head on him.
    Did they not make her master of ships? Can't recall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It was included in the credits because an actual band owns the rights to the song. The speculation is based on ignorance of business practices. Very irrational to read more into it.
    I mean that it was played in the credits. There's no reason to play the song at all lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    "Gorghan of Old Ghis once wrote that a prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time."

    - Marwyn the Mage, A Feast for Crows
    This is wonderfully accurate for those in characters in-world who do not have all the information required to make sense of them. This really doesn't hold for book readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    Did they not make her master of ships? Can't recall
    By process of elimination I'm pretty sure they made Davos MoS.

  16. #28916
    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    Again, I think this is just the difference in talking to people that aren't involved in creative anything. The writers here didn't suddenly forget how to write. They weren't leaning on Martin because he flatly wasn't involved as much as people seem to think he was. They were working on an adaptation, not an original piece. Then they ran out of things to adapt. It's easier to interpret from a voice that is not your own than to try to invent things whole cloth. So they defaulted to their own style, and, at the same time, had to do a rush job on it. Even Martin said just recently, that a lot of the beats are the same but they are necessarily different because the adaptation left out or killed certain characters that the book did not. Martin also said that his last two books are like 3000 pages of manuscript and he could add more if he needed to, an option that TV guys don't have. I'm not saying it was well done, I'm saying no one would have done a good job and it's silly to blame the writers.
    no no they didnt have to fucking rush it. i've stated before that they were offered 10 episodes for season 8, they CHOSE 6. same went for season 7. they are just lazy and wanted out. fuck em. i hope this blunder ruins their writing careers with their choices. they were even offered more than the 8 seasons too. but they were god damned lazy. the inept ability to maintain a creative style that was done for 6 seasons, and as you personally said,didnt have much of Martin's involvement, is ridiculous. now you are just contradicting your own argument.

  17. #28917
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I mean, that's how she always was.

    "Your rulers oppress you, I will break the wheel. By becoming your oppressive ruler. If you step out of line, Dracarys."
    "I oppose slavery. But now that you've bent the knee, you're mine forever, and you'll like it. Or else, Dracarys."
    "My cause is righteous vengeance to undo the wrongs done to me and my family. If you're engaging in righteous vengeance against my wrongs done to you, Dracarys."

    And so forth.
    I don't feel like the slaves were in any way bound to her. You can see that in the fighting pits storyline, where she wanted one thing, but eventually came to the understanding that the people wanted that.

    I mean, none of those slaves actually joined her on her journey west. She expects nothing of them. She gained nothing from freeing them. She freed them because she saw slavery as part of the "wheel" she wanted to break. She did it because she disagreed with slavery after being essentially sold into slavery herself for her brother's benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    See, this is where you make excuses for her.

    The people of King's Landing weren't innocent, either. They refused to bend the knee. Exactly what the Tarlys did.

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    But they literally did. It was THEM yelling to "ring the bells, ring the bells!" You heard women, and presumably children yelling it. Forget the fact that they shouldn't even know that bells ringing were supposed to mean surrender, the clear intention of the writers was to portray that the smallfolk were surrendering.

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    Why are they ruling from the Red Keep? The entire city is destroyed! Move whats left of the people to Old Town and start a new.
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    wE doNt kNoW wHat PlAyeRs wAnT FoR CHarACteR CrEaTioN MOdelS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooba View Post
    This is wonderfully accurate for those in characters in-world who do not have all the information required to make sense of them. This really doesn't hold for book readers.

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    By process of elimination I'm pretty sure they made Davos MoS.
    That KINDA makes sense. Could have placed Yara in there but I think Yara was more in shock about "wait independent was an option?!?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I mean that it was played in the credits. There's no reason to play the song at all lol.
    Other than, you know, entertainment purposes for a medium that utilizes sight and sound...
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    Got to earn his turnips.

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