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    Hold the fuck up, 940+ only for a fucking +10?

    Aight this is straight up some cancererous bs. Nuke it from orbit. This shit is not healthy for the game in any way. Literally can't get into a group for a shitty 10 key for my rogue until I vastly outgear it to the point I would never bother doing a 10 on it unless I was a complete shit tier noob?

    10's are so easy you should actually just straight up take the first 920+ people who fit the role you need to fill. Don't even screen, just invite whoever queues first and do it. Otherwise you are wasting time or srsly being the worst kind of person in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post
    Aight this is straight up some cancererous bs. Nuke it from orbit. This shit is not healthy for the game in any way. Literally can't get into a group for a shitty 10 key for my rogue until I vastly outgear it to the point I would never bother doing a 10 on it unless I was a complete shit tier noob?

    10's are so easy you should actually just straight up take the first 920+ people who fit the role you need to fill. Don't even screen, just invite whoever queues first and do it. Otherwise you are wasting time or srsly being the worst kind of person in this game.
    When someone puts a grp finder up, there's typically 5-10 dps near instantly queing, why on earth would someone invite the 920, over the 950?

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    920 is LFR level gear. I don't want the LFR population in my group for anything.

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    Make. Your. Own. Group.

    I ask for 965 for 10's- Because I'm a tank, and I can.

    Anything 935 and under gets insta-declined. Why? Because I can.

    It's nothing against those lower geared people, but why bother taking a gamble when I get a nonstop avalanche of 960-970 people queuing up?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ham on Rye View Post
    920 is LFR level gear. I don't want the LFR population in my group for anything.

    Exactly this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post
    Aight this is straight up some cancererous bs. Nuke it from orbit. This shit is not healthy for the game in any way. Literally can't get into a group for a shitty 10 key for my rogue until I vastly outgear it to the point I would never bother doing a 10 on it unless I was a complete shit tier noob?

    10's are so easy you should actually just straight up take the first 920+ people who fit the role you need to fill. Don't even screen, just invite whoever queues first and do it. Otherwise you are wasting time or srsly being the worst kind of person in this game.
    Cant wait till you get to the point you want to try a 15 and then get repeatedly turned down because you do not have a high raider.io score lol. In all seriousness though, if you want to play in a certain community you have to play by that communities rules. In the pug community as it stands, you generally overgear it to death, its been that way all xpac, where you been?
    You asked a question and I gave you the answer. You might not agree with or fully understand the answer, but, it is correct because of reasons.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post
    Aight this is straight up some cancererous bs. Nuke it from orbit. This shit is not healthy for the game in any way. Literally can't get into a group for a shitty 10 key for my rogue until I vastly outgear it to the point I would never bother doing a 10 on it unless I was a complete shit tier noob?

    10's are so easy you should actually just straight up take the first 920+ people who fit the role you need to fill. Don't even screen, just invite whoever queues first and do it. Otherwise you are wasting time or srsly being the worst kind of person in this game.
    You know what, I see people bitching about this all the time and never make their own groups so let's face it I am going to ask. What do people like you want that is realistic and doesn't mean as a tank I have to be stuck with (if you have to invite the top player) 3 people of same class that could quite simply put hold me back. I want to get stuff done. Plus DPS are a dime a dozen, I put up a M+ and in moments I have a page full of them. I want a good balanced group so I'll pick what I want.

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    people can make these threads all they want, it comes down to supply and demand, people can set the requirements since they still get enough supply while setting it. so as always it comes down, make your own group, run with guldies and friends, (eventhough i often see people complaing ingame and they set the same requirements aswell themselfs when making a group cause they want a quick run)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post
    Aight this is straight up some cancererous bs. Nuke it from orbit. This shit is not healthy for the game in any way. Literally can't get into a group for a shitty 10 key for my rogue until I vastly outgear it to the point I would never bother doing a 10 on it unless I was a complete shit tier noob?

    10's are so easy you should actually just straight up take the first 920+ people who fit the role you need to fill. Don't even screen, just invite whoever queues first and do it. Otherwise you are wasting time or srsly being the worst kind of person in this game.
    Start your own group, stop trying to get carried.

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    Make.

    Your.

    Own.

    Group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atraxxa View Post
    its been that way all xpac, where you been?
    It's been this way since Wrath, even. Back then it was 5k GS for heroic dungeon spam. (Where 5k GS usually involved full T10 and ICC raid gear.)

    This is not new whatsoever. It's still just as cancerous as it was back then.
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    I'm sorry sir, but we do not serve complimentary cheese when you bring your own whine.

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    lol another person who spends more time whining about getting into a group than making their own group, this never gets old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Make.

    Your.

    Own.

    Group.
    Extra buttons and stuff, ya know.
    Disarm now correctly removes the targets’ arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    It's been this way since Wrath, even. Back then it was 5k GS for heroic dungeon spam. (Where 5k GS usually involved full T10 and ICC raid gear.)

    This is not new whatsoever. It's still just as cancerous as it was back then.
    Except its not cancerous at all. Nothing is stopping you from making your own group. Nothing is stopping you from doing guild runs etc. What we see here, again, is someone who simply wants to be carried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emerald Archer View Post
    When someone puts a grp finder up, there's typically 5-10 dps near instantly queing, why on earth would someone invite the 920, over the 950?
    Idk. I literally couldn't find a group for my +18 brh key this week. No one applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    It's been this way since Wrath, even. Back then it was 5k GS for heroic dungeon spam. (Where 5k GS usually involved full T10 and ICC raid gear.)

    This is not new whatsoever. It's still just as cancerous as it was back then.
    no one asked for GS to do some heroics lol

    tho 6k gs for VoA no slackers pls was somewhat common

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    I swing by these forums every once in a while just to see what's going on with the game (though less and less often these days), and I am torn between amusement and dismay to see the exact same threads still cropping up.

    People will take the highest geared people they can.

    Some of those looking for very high gear/item/whatever will be people who just want a quick run, and while a higher level of gear won't guarantee that, it's better than nothing.

    Some are actively looking to avoid people that don't do anything harder than LFR, and item level is one way to attempt that.

    Some are incompetent morons who want people to carry them. They may think gear=skill (see: "incompetent moron"), or they may use any of the above reasoning, but either way they want to be carried, so they look for the best people they can find.

    Some are elitist jerks. This is a non-exclusive category that can include any or all of the above.

    At the end of the day, you cannot know what motivates them without asking (and even then, you're probably going to get insults sooner than explanations.) What you can know is the following:
    -Complaining about it won't change anything.
    -None of the people you complain about are going to see this thread.
    -The community has acted like this since at least Wrath of the Lich King, and if you include manual gear inspection you can easily include TBC heroic dungeons as well ("come to Shat for /inspect", anyone?)
    -This does not violate any game policies or rules, so nothing will be done about it.

    If you need to vent, feel free I guess, but at the end of the day you won't change these people... and I always felt I was better off without them (particularly when the person forming the group did not meet their own requirements.) Good (here meaning "practical and effective") solutions include:
    -Joining a guild that matches your schedule so you can run with guild groups.
    -Getting enough gear that you meet their requirements.
    -Forming your own groups.

    Edit: Also, 920 LFR ilvl? I had forgotten just how terrible gear inflation in this game had gotten...
    Last edited by darkwarrior42; 2018-02-13 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Except its not cancerous at all. Nothing is stopping you from making your own group. Nothing is stopping you from doing guild runs etc. What we see here, again, is someone who simply wants to be carried.
    >Nothing is stopping you from making your own group

    Except people don't sign up because my item level is low or I don't have a mythic.io score.

    >Nothing is stopping you from doing guild runs

    I shouldn't have to, that's literally what the premade finder is for. I am in a small guild with close RL friends, they cannot be online at my whims and I'd prefer not to leave my friends for randos on the internet.
    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    I'm sorry sir, but we do not serve complimentary cheese when you bring your own whine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post
    Aight this is straight up some cancererous bs. Nuke it from orbit. This shit is not healthy for the game in any way. Literally can't get into a group for a shitty 10 key for my rogue until I vastly outgear it to the point I would never bother doing a 10 on it unless I was a complete shit tier noob?

    10's are so easy you should actually just straight up take the first 920+ people who fit the role you need to fill. Don't even screen, just invite whoever queues first and do it. Otherwise you are wasting time or srsly being the worst kind of person in this game.
    I can tell from the context of your statement, the reason Raider.io is a thing, is because of players like you. Which those of us who use Raider.io, want to avoid.

    I had a zero score about 2 months ago, now I'm 3200. It's very, very, very easy to raise your score if you enjoy doing mythic + runs. This system is around because the MAJORITY of players in this game, have no clue how to do DPS whilst also doing mechanics. I sell carries for gold, and the amount of 940-960 players that buy runs, and cannot sustain over 800k dmg for the entire run, or not die anywhere from 5-10 times per run is staggering.

    This system is in place for a reason. If 10's were so easy, you wouldn't have a problem getting into a group to do them. The problem is, when 5 920's get into a group together, they generally won't finish that 10 on time. And I'm betting, you would be part of the problem.

    It's not cancerous, you think it's exclusive. Which is why you hate it. But the neat thing about this is, anyone can run the keys once they have the gear, and improve their score. Then this would no longer be an issue.

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonol View Post
    Idk. I literally couldn't find a group for my +18 brh key this week. No one applies.
    No one applied for doing a +18 of one of the least liked dungeons, on a week with sanguine that is horrible to deal with in BRH and makes some of the parts incredibly tedious (like the corridor after the second boss)? Who would have thought :thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    no one asked for GS to do some heroics lol
    Yes, they did. It was pretty sad.

    tho 6k gs for VoA no slackers pls was somewhat common
    For raids it was worse for sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    I'm sorry sir, but we do not serve complimentary cheese when you bring your own whine.

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