Lawl, you only say mage because frost is op in pvp.
My dmg in raids are the same as hunters.
Lawl, you only say mage because frost is op in pvp.
My dmg in raids are the same as hunters.
Really hope you're not talking about pvp, because Paladins are by far the shittiest healers right now. They were the best at the beginning of the expansion, and the best healers and were pretty much all the way through Wrath, but In BC, paladins were barely used, except for 5s. Shamans are the best healers right now by far followed by priests and druids a little behind, that will change with the coming patch though.
I really hope you're not talking about resto shamans in pvp because if you are you're a complete idiot.
My class isn't op because i play it. Both (resto) shaman and rogue are really good right now, so i don't know what you're complaining about. If you're talking about elemental shamans, i feel your pain
They really need to come up with a new system so balancing pve abilities doesn't affect pvp abilities. I really think they should just split off the abilities into 2 different things like they do X for pve and Y for pvp that way they can balance each class a lot easier without ruining a different part of the game.
Last edited by Creptius; 2011-05-26 at 06:30 AM.
Originally Posted by Lascer
I voted mage, and I play a mage, I think its true to be honest, and I like it ^^
Confirmed: Anyone who didn't pick mage is a mage.
(Joking, it's all in good fun friends!)
HmmmmmmmmmmMage
LOL at people who picked Paladins. You don't know.
I honestly thought blood DKs because of thier heals and thier mastery
But it is definely not paladin I play them and they are like Blizzard's abused children and thats why I play gmod more now... Blizzard you games needs to be fixed the fuck beyond belief
If you are reading this, Congratulations you have nothing better to read
Kek at the poll numbers.
P.S Mages of course.
P.P.S Damn mages!
Read a little closer, Captain Defensive. No one's saying you need a nerf, we're saying they've received the most positive attention of all of the classes in this expansion, which is just fact.
Just because you're not effortlessly topping meters on every fight in every raid on every moonphase doesn't mean you aren't in a really good spot. Soak it up.
Mountains rise in the distance stalwart as the stars, fading forever.
Roads ever weaving, soul ever seeking the hunter's mark.
Something that I think needs to be said...
I can't speak for everybody, and Elune knows on the forums it's even more skewed, but most people don't think mages need tuned down, they want to feel as tho their class is as good.
I see mages as a design success. I hope to see them used as the model going forward with class design. I don't wan't to see you guys nerfed, I want to see the same love and attention you have gotten. I want all classes to have 3 viable specs, and frills, and cool factor.
Sure, some people are jealous and sour, but many of us are rational and don't want to take anything from you. We just want the same treatment.
Yes yes, I know, the sky just bonked you on the head, casuals are taking over the government, and some baddie just got a raid drop... I think you'll live.
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Every time I see someone reference a previous patch or some "pre-nerf" crap, I can't take them seriously, either. You know what else was a problem in 1v1? Warriors. Shamans. Druids. Paladins. Death Knights. Is that your life? Duels and unranked arena?
cwutididthar?
Mages are not OP by a long shot. What, we have three viable specs? Shit, son, we SHOULD have three viable specs. We can't tank or heal; what use would one or two extra specs be if they couldn't do anything? And when people say viable, they should really clarify. PVP viability is not the same as PVE, just like PVE viability is not the same as PVP. Take an arcane mage into an actual arena. Go ahead, queue up with your 3s team. I'll wait.
Done? Dead? Probably the last one targeted once they saw you weren't rocking a water ele? Yeah, welcome to every mage spec ever besides frost since PVP was invented.
Now, for a fun exercise, go raid as frost. Hell, go do a random heroic as frost. If you could take a time machine back to when Cat first dropped, I'd challenge you to do it as arcane, as well. Why? Because both specs did exactly jack and shit when it came to raiding. Only now has arcane been brought in line with fire as a viable spec, and that's after an entire expansion when fire was considered moderately more useful than letting your grandmother play your toon so you didn't have to poop-sock it. As for frost? You may as well bring in a holy pally and let him cast exorcism against everything as his main means of DPS.
Mage specs have basically bounced around being somewhat decent to fairly terrible in past expansions, with arcane at the height of ICC being the only time where they could faceroll like a lot of other classes had the chance to do before. And right when arcane was getting good, what happens? Cataclysm drops, everyone goes lolfire, and hunters in greens out-damage epic-geared mages because of bad RNG and poor mechanics that take literally four years to get fixed. And even when they do get fixed, it isn't really a fix. It's like trying to neuter your cat, then deciding it costs too much and instead relying on spraying him with water whenever you see him try to mount his sister. It works as intended maybe fifty percent of the time.
Mage might have had most improvement lately, but i also remember that in several years they didn't get a thing where all other classes got improvement all the time.
lol at the vote results... just shows how similar the mindset of the wow gaming community is to the dodos in cartoons, one random dodo gets an idea and shouts it out to the rest and volia you have a bunch of mindless drones following said dodo of the freakin cliff, chanting the same omg mages are so op song while falling to their inevitable death.
The question now is how to get the brainless gaming dodos extinct just like the real ones?
Right, because previous patches in cataclysm aren't relevant to a thread that EXPLICITLY STATES that we are talking about things IN CATACLYSM.
Denial.
Sure, just as soon as you qeue up in 3v3 with your combat rogue, holy priest, or destro lock, etc.
Cool, I'll qeue up with your sub rogue! Deal?
Fixed.
I LOVE how defensive the mages here are getting; Astralvibe a prime example. "Wha, everyone hates mages! I guess EVERYONE IS A BRAINLESS SHEEP BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THE CLASS I PLAY ACTUALLY HAS AN ADVANTAGE!"
Scream "mob mentality", "sheeple", or "dodos" all you want, it doesn't omit the fact that you are factually wrong. Sorry.
Last edited by Snes; 2011-05-26 at 07:15 AM.
Take a break from politics once in awhile, it's good for you.
lol'd @ poll
couldnt agree more
every patch notes seems to be some kind of mage buff
I like that mages are here to rage at everyone, but the votes keep coming in for them.
Only reason people keep saying mage is because they are tired of being owned by them in PvP, only thing about mages i think need a nerf are their shield. Thats about it.
I play a shaman, Dk, lock.
FROST DKS NEED TO BE NERFED! I HIT PEOPLE FOR HALF THEIR LIFE, THATS A PROBLEM.
I play my shaman all the time and i smile to myself when i beat anyone in anything cause their doing it wrong. obviously lol.