dragonwrath

[kosuko]

it shouldn't but it seems like something they would overlook

Like 2.9 (or was it 3.0) conflagrate..

[squee666]

Question is Does it Double Dip from Curse of Elements AND Bane of Havoc

[Vorpalshade]

Incinerate hit for 20k, BoH hit for 3k, Tarecgosa proc for 20k, BoH hit for another 3k

Without CoE, Incinerate hit for 18400, BoH hit for 2760, Tarecgo proc for 18400, BoH hit for another 2760

Is it REALLY hard to understand?

[Deleted]

I can imagine some nasty dps from affliction locks lol!

[imoom]

I can imagine some nasty dps from affliction locks lol!

Statistically the staff should give the same damage % increase for all classses /speccs in the long run.
The small thing that might differ, is pet classes, (since pet abilitys wont double), BUT they claim to have taken that into consideration -> 5% procc chance is 5% dmg increase for ALL classes/speccs since they have stated it proccs of individual dmg ticks/hits on with NO ICD.

(edit: only difference i can think of is MAYBE arcane mastery, but that is VERY unlikely)

[squee666]

if only this also Procced on fel hunters Shadow Bite


/drool


*edit

seeing how it affects dots this may means Bane of Agony will replace Bane of Doom in long single target fights again

[Deleted]

dude, if you increased agony's damage by 100% and doom's damage also by 100%, does that mean the priority between the 2 changes? math si so hard..

[squee666]

dude, if you increased agony's damage by 100% and doom's damage also by 100%, does that mean the priority between the 2 changes? math si so hard..

im thinking that DOOm does 15k dmg every 15 seconds for a minute and Bane of Agony does 15k over 30 seconds but it ticks every few seconds and slowly gets higher + benefits from haste

seeing how Dragonwrath has a chance to double a dots ticking dmg it means Agony could potentially tick and hti for well more

[Deleted]

agony will have more procs for shit dmg, doom will have fewer procs for great damage. this staff souldn't really change our rotation

[Abandon]

Higher proc chance for pet specs ... WARLOCK WEAPON

Erm, higher chance with pet specs because it doesn't proc from your pets abilities. So it has a higher chance so you gain the same benefit as everyone else instead of less. That really doesn't make it the best for you, it makes it very good for everyone.

[bobsmith06]

Erm, higher chance with pet specs because it doesn't proc from your pets abilities. So it has a higher chance so you gain the same benefit as everyone else instead of less. That really doesn't make it the best for you, it makes it very good for everyone.

They never said it can't pro from pet abilities it said that classes with high pet damage have been adjusted accordingly

[Jessicka]

Our goal is to tune Dragonwrath in such a way that you can give it to any caster without anticipating certain classes or specs getting a bigger benefit than others.

What is difficult about this to -get- when it comes to working out whether a class or spec would benefit more from it - the intention is clear: None will.

[Deleted]

They never said it can't pro from pet abilities it said that classes with high pet damage have been adjusted accordingly

and what does that mean to u?

[bobsmith06]

It means I take things as they ate said, so I'm leaving that door open but regarding what you said earlier doom will still be better is rather wait 15 arcs for a chance at an 84k pro then once every few for 5k

[Abandon]

They never said it can't pro from pet abilities it said that classes with high pet damage have been adjusted accordingly

Unless your imp is weilding the Legendary themselves they will not get it to proc from their own attacks. If they did, then there would be absolutely no reason for them to change the proc chance for Pet classes.

[Inshabel]

Unless your imp is weilding the Legendary themselves they will not get it to proc from their own attacks. If they did, then there would be absolutely no reason for them to change the proc chance for Pet classes.

This, making it procc from pet attacks AND making the procc chance higher would be stupid OP and default it to pet classes.

[Count Zero]

Question is Does it Double Dip from Curse of Elements AND Bane of Havoc

Oh gawd ... I hadn't even thought about Bane of Havoc ... Destro is going to be BEAST. Same for Afflic with soul-swap multidotting.

Man ... locks are going to just kill it with this thing and the higher proc chance for pet specs. I honestly for the first time wish we had tri-spec, because I want to use this thing with each spec. If it works with ticks of aoe, then Demo will be unstoppable on aoe fights. Immolation aura + Shadowflame + Hellfire all ticking ...

Afflic and destro for two-target fights ... oh man ...

I also kinda think it's funny that 3 of the 4 pet specs that will see a higher proc chance are from the same class, especially with Frost being relatively weak atm (haven't looked to see if they're getting buffed in 4.2).

---------- Post added 2011-06-16 at 08:39 AM ----------

Erm, higher chance with pet specs because it doesn't proc from your pets abilities. So it has a higher chance so you gain the same benefit as everyone else instead of less. That really doesn't make it the best for you, it makes it very good for everyone.

lol sorry, this was mostly a poke at all the "mage weapon" comments we'd been seeing before they announced no ICD and higher proc chance for pet specs :P