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    Fireland boss progression

    For those who are in the PTR and have done the raid, in terms of difficulty/gear/dps requirements how would you list the order a semi casual guild would tackle them?

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    Far as I know any order as far as the first 4/5 goes, I'd assume the Gate Keeper is one of the last you would attempt.
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    You're going to get a lot of clueless people come in this thread who say "the first 4 bosses are the ez". While they are all supposed to be the same difficulty, there still is an easiest and a hardest out of the first 4.

    Personally I would say it's

    Shannox - Alysrazor - Beth'tilac - Lord Ryolith (easiest being Shannox, hardest being Ryolith)

    and then the next 3.

    Lord Ryolith would be the steepest learning curve because of the steering mechanic, Shannox is the closest to a tank and spank, Alysrazor is an add + don't get hit by the fire fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weightless View Post
    Personally I would say it's

    Shannox - Alysrazor - Beth'tilac - Lord Ryolith (easiest being Shannox, hardest being Ryolith)

    and then the next 3.

    Lord Ryolith would be the steepest learning curve because of the steering mechanic, Shannox is the closest to a tank and spank, Alysrazor is an add + don't get hit by the fire fight.
    I definitely agree with the first two. The Shannox fight seems really simple, Alysrazor is definitely next.
    As for the last two, Ryolith has difficult mechanics, Beth'Tilac has easy mechanics, but is a gear check. So if you haven't done much HM T11, go with Ryolith first. If you're geared to the teeth, go for Beth'Tilac.
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    yeah we arent geared in any heroic gear, just normal 359s

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    As for the last two, Ryolith has difficult mechanics, Beth'Tilac has easy mechanics, but is a gear check. So if you haven't done much HM T11, go with Ryolith first. If you're geared to the teeth, go for Beth'Tilac.
    Normal modes wont require insane amounts of HM T11, wont make a difference which goes first.
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    From my testing, obviously the last 3 last, but in terms of the first four- Shannox-->Alysrazor/Ryolith-->Beth'tilac, All this with my original testing of Beth being without as good as of a group as the other 3, but still seemed the most demanding.
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    I'm really surprised that people continue to place Beth'tilac near the end of that list rather than at the beginning. Perhaps you're judging the fight based on the initial PTR test where guilds were hampered by permanent disconnects and an overtuned second phase. In proceeding tests the fight was significantly easier than both Alysrazor and Lord Rhyolith, both in tuning and the overall complexity of the mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiasmus View Post
    I'm really surprised that people continue to place Beth'tilac near the end of that list rather than at the beginning. Perhaps you're judging the fight based on the initial PTR test where guilds were hampered by permanent disconnects and an overtuned second phase. In proceeding tests the fight was significantly easier than both Alysrazor and Lord Rhyolith, both in tuning and the overall complexity of the mechanics.
    Not much difference between "near the end" and "near the beginning" when the list only consists of 4 spots :P

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