[Megathread] Wildstar - Now F2P

[Iseeyou]

Jesus blizzcon is a fiasco.

I hope carbine is ready to welcome massive amount of players and it wont put too much pressure on them.

[1NF4M0UZ]

Ps. I am slightly tipsy (Been celebrating twice this week one particular event, that is of high interest for me) so my posts might be the most coherent. I apologise.

[iggie]

Carbine must be licking their lips after today.

[Sy]

Things that Rift players say about W*s housing?

good point^^

still, W* housing is still very clearly housing, a system that let's us create and customize our home. the garrisons will have some options, but nothing that makes them unique in any way when compared to the ones of other players. they will mainly focus on creating a base that gives boni to professions and stuff, rather than giving us the tools to create a home that we feel we designed ourselves.

i still like the idea of the garrisons, i just don't think it's really "housing".

Jesus blizzcon is a fiasco.

Carbine must be licking their lips after today.

why, what happened?^^
i only read the mmoc frontpage, but that of course just tries to summarize the wow info.

[RoninaThorstone]

why, what happened?^^
i only read the mmoc frontpage, but that of course just tries to summarize the wow info.

Blizzcon is always a case of tea leaves.

Everyone watches the coverage and, depending on what they think of blizzard going into it, sees what they want to.

Fans will say the future is brighter than ever. Detractors will say that bankruptsy is imminent.

[1NF4M0UZ]

Blizzcon is always a case of tea leaves.

Everyone watches the coverage and, depending on what they think of blizzard going into it, sees what they want to.

Fans will say the future is brighter than ever. Detractors will say that bankruptsy is imminent.

The only interesting thing I have seen so far has been the animated gnome female pigtails. :P

Then again, I ain't the target audience for WoW anymore so, nuff said.

[Edge-]

Remember guys, this is the WildStar thread. If you want to discuss Blizzcon stuff, there's the Warlords of Draenor forum or the General Discussion forum for that.

[1NF4M0UZ]

Remember guys, this is the WildStar thread. If you want to discuss Blizzcon stuff, there's the Warlords of Draenor forum or the General Discussion forum for that.

Sir yes sir!

I am listening the new WildStar music by Jeff Kurtenacker and the team, while browsing WildStar Central and MMO hamp.

[Deleted]

The hoverboard looks great, forget questing and farming this thing will have me out in the open world for hours on end.

[Nirawen]

If they don't introduce a PvP encounter/battleground race using hoverboards with weapons attached I will be incredibly disappointed .

[RoninaThorstone]

Despite the appeal of SimOrgrimmar/SimStormwind I still think that Wildstar will have it's solid, niche demographic because I think there are enough people who want GW2 style combat + WoWs vertical progression.

When you consider how quickly and how many copies sold of GW2 and the number of players who wished there was raiding, gear treadmills, ect (granted, they were playing the wrong game) that's a pretty large group of potential W* players.

[RoninaThorstone]

I keep hearing this, and yet I've seen nothing that suggest WS combat is anything like GW2 at all. Every video I've seen from them makes the entire system look like a traditional 2nd gen style MMO with a somewhat greater emphasis on aiming attacks. Especially since it seems traditional "trinity" roles will exist, which pretty much shoots down the entire idea of it being "GW2 combat" at all. [/FONT]

Like GW2
1:1 attacks
Conal / directional abilities
Dodge mechanics
Heavy focus on movement
Limited action set
Controls and gameplay

Not like GW2
Unavoidable white damage
Defined roles
Avoidance stats

The things that are "not like GW2" are things that are from gen 2 MMOs to make traditional raiding possible.
It's way more like GW2 combat than not.

*It's certainly closer to GW2 than WoW or Tera

[Valeron]

well from personal experience, gw2's combat felt a lot more fluid than in wildstar. wildstar uses a lot of the directional abilities to with their cones or telegraphs or whatever, gw2 only has a few of those, all of the other skills have a cleave or splash damage to other mobs (depending on the skill). I just don't think there is as much similarity as you make it out to be Bardarian.

I'm not saying one is better than the other (although I have my preferences), I just don't think it is as similar as that.

[zito]

TBH I didn't feel any similarity with GW2 combat. I felt it was more like WoW/Rift combat with mobs doing an occasional telegraph and that all your attacks had a telegraph to see where it goes.

Dodging is even different since no immunity

[RoninaThorstone]

well from personal experience, gw2's combat felt a lot more fluid than in wildstar. wildstar uses a lot of the directional abilities to with their cones or telegraphs or whatever, gw2 only has a few of those, all of the other skills have a cleave or splash damage to other mobs (depending on the skill). I just don't think there is as much similarity as you make it out to be Bardarian.

I'm not saying one is better than the other (although I have my preferences), I just don't think it is as similar as that.

As they are both hybrids (g2.5), they are going to have a mix of gen 2 and gen 3 elements in their combat.

Like, in GW2, ranged attacks are "auto aimed" for you via tab whereas in W* you have to aim with the ground telegraph. One could argue this makes it "more action"
But then you have unavoidable white damage which is more like a traditional g2 mmo.

Relative to everything out there, W*s combat is closest to GW2. They share many common elements but there are differences. I figured the latter went without saying. Within second generation MMOs there's a pretty wide range of combat / stat mechanics as well like between Lotro and WoW and swtor... But they are all considered G2 combat.

[RoninaThorstone]

I felt it was more like WoW/Rift combat

Tab target doesn't aim for you, there is no auto attack, LAS, sprint/dodge...

I mean, I get that unavoidable white damage means that it can feel more G2 than G3 but the gameplay on the player side is more G3 when you are talking about PvP.

[zito]

Tab target doesn't aim for you, there is no auto attack, LAS, sprint/dodge...

I mean, I get that unavoidable white damage means that it can feel more G2 than G3 but the gameplay on the player side is more G3 when you are talking about PvP.

Thats not what I said at all. I said it felt like WoW/rift combat. Even with dodging and sprinting. It just felt like WoW combat with dodge and sprint.

[Kelimbror]

Thats not what I said at all. I said it felt like WoW/rift combat. Even with dodging and sprinting. It just felt like WoW combat with dodge and sprint.

Except the fact that attacks can be free form (no target) as well as having conal aoe baked into them...which is just like GW2. Honestly the only things they have from traditional hotkey MMOs are a small set of directly tab target abilities, high mob white damage, and stat based combat mechanics (hit, avoidance, etc) as the primary determinant of your damage intake.

[Last Attempt]

Just a reminder, they're going to be streaming in 1 hr 30 mins @ http://www.twitch.tv/wildstar they're going to show mounts!

[RoninaThorstone]

It always seems like there's this irrational need for fans of a new game to distance themselves from that-other-game. Typically it just comes off as grasping at straws, as it does in this case.[/FONT]

Like people trying to distance W* from GW2 combat?

The difference between combat/movement is small.

The difference between the stat system is large (as the stat system is gen 2)

The main difference between the two games is the white damage which forms the need for the trinity/stat system which in turn allows for traditional raiding set ups.