I'm Building a new PC

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PSU : Corsair Enthusiast TX V2 CMPSU-650TXV2UK 650W (Already have)

Mobo : Asus m4n98td EVO, NF980a SLI, S AM3, PCI-E 2.0, DDR3 1066/1333/2000(OC) , Sata 3gb/s RAID , ATX.

Processor : AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black edition Deneb Core, S AM3 , 3.5GHz , 8mb cache, HT4000MHz, 125w, retail.

Hard Drive : 500GB Hitachi 0F10381 Deskstar 7K1000.C, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.5ms. (Already have)

Ram : 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10600 (1333), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V . (Already have)

Graphics : 1GB MSI GTX 560, 40nm, 4000MHz GDDR5, GPU 810MHz, Shader 1620MHz, 336 Cores, 2 x DVI-I, mHDMI .

OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1, Operating System, Single, - OEM .

Case : NZXT Guardian 921 LCD Meter Red LED Black Midi Gaming Chassis. (Already have)

I've priced it all up (Excluding what i already have) and it's about £440 , Just Curious as to whether it would work as i'm rather new to this P.C putting together type stuff. I'd like to avoid spending £500 tbh .

p.s TY in advance for any and all responses

[Uggorthaholy]

PSU : Corsair Enthusiast TX V2 CMPSU-650TXV2UK 650W (Already have)

Mobo : Asus m4n98td EVO, NF980a SLI, S AM3, PCI-E 2.0, DDR3 1066/1333/2000(OC) , Sata 3gb/s RAID , ATX.

Processor : AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black edition Deneb Core, S AM3 , 3.5GHz , 8mb cache, HT4000MHz, 125w, retail.

Ram : 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10600 (1333), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V . (Already have)

Graphics : 1GB MSI GTX 560, 40nm, 4000MHz GDDR5, GPU 810MHz, Shader 1620MHz, 336 Cores, 2 x DVI-I, mHDMI .

OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1, Operating System, Single, - OEM .

Case : NZXT Guardian 921 LCD Meter Red LED Black Midi Gaming Chassis. (Already have)

I've priced it all up (Excluding what i already have) and it's about £440 , Just Curious as to whether it would work as i'm rather new to this P.C putting together type stuff.

just saw you want to stay under 500, ignore that.
Also, what will you be using the PC for?
Is the GTX 560 a GTX 560 *Ti*?

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just saw you want to stay under 500, ignore that.
Also, what will you be using the PC for?
Is the GTX 560 a GTX 560 *Ti*?

I want to stay under £500 as that is basically all i can afford without getting Finance or saving( I'm terrible at saving up).
It will be used mostly for gaming and media and no it's not a "Ti".
I'm not after anything spectacular ,just a gaming PC for when my mates comes round.

[Uggorthaholy]

I want to stay under £500 as that is basically all i can afford without getting Finance or saving( I'm terrible at saving up).
It will be used mostly for gaming and media and no it's not a "Ti".

A GTX 460 is better than a non Ti GTX 560, if I recall correctly. If you get any 560 it should be a Ti.
For gaming, the intel i3 beats AMD right now and is in a similar range. You'd want a socket 1155 mobo to go with it.

[JonBeMerkin]

A GTX 460 is better than a non Ti GTX 560, if I recall correctly. If you get any 560 it should be a Ti.
For gaming, the intel i3 beats AMD right now and is in a similar range. You'd want a socket 1155 mobo to go with it.

wait so http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121446 isnt as good as a gtx 460?

[Uggorthaholy]

wait so http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121446 isnt as good as a gtx 460?

at work and having trouble finding a direct comparison, anandtech doesn't have the regular GTX 560 on its list... that in itself may say something.

[Cantii]

GTX 560 is about the same as an HD6870, however the 6870 is less expensive and performs a little bit better. Both are superior to the GTX 460.

[JonBeMerkin]

at work and having trouble finding a direct comparison, anandtech doesn't have the regular GTX 560 on its list... that in itself may say something.

Hmm, i was looking at that graphics card over the R6870, opinions? I know the GTX 560 has better performance, but that card isnt TI so not really sure?

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GTX 560 is about the same as an HD6870, however the 6870 is less expensive and performs a little bit better. Both are superior to the GTX 460.

yeah i was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

its 20 bucks less then the gtx 560 i picked out, but only has 1 fan. the gigabyte 2 fan one is same price as the gtx 560 i had in mind

[Uggorthaholy]

I found it lol. The different between GTX 460 and GTX 560 is about 12.5% in performance.
6870 is showing above the EVGA 460 FTW edition on some benchmarks, and below it on some others.

stock ref cards the 6870 wins every time.

[JonBeMerkin]

I found it lol. The different between GTX 460 and GTX 560 is about 12.5% in performance.
6870 is showing above the EVGA 460 FTW edition on some benchmarks, and below it on some others.

stock ref cards the 6870 wins every time.

yeah the TI version is $40 extra. honestly i might go with the 6870 because its only 175$ and i feel its more then enough to play wow. Really not looking to send 200+ on a graphics card just for wow lol.

[Uggorthaholy]

yeah the TI version is $40 extra. honestly i might go with the 6870 because its only 175$ and i feel its more then enough to play wow. Really not looking to send 200+ on a graphics card just for wow lol.

the 460 is MORE than enough to play wow, honestly. turn shadows and AA down a touch, and bam 60 FPS on an i3.

[JonBeMerkin]

the 460 is MORE than enough to play wow, honestly. turn shadows and AA down a touch, and bam 60 FPS on an i3.

yeah honestly, these forums are extremely helpful dont get me wrong, but i see builds of people saying yeah i want a 700$ budget build and this is what i have so far! he posted like a 6670 i believe? like EVERYONE told him to get a 6970 because that one was old and he was like "okay ill find a way to buy it" like 300$ GPU to play wow. Im running a computer that was made no joke in 2006 its a Dell with a built in GPU thats TERRIBLE. At low settings im still getting 20 FPS which i was surprised to even get that lol.

[Uggorthaholy]

Don't get my wrong, the better the card, the more features you can have maxed, and the more stable your FPS will be. If you have a 120 hz monitor, get the $300.00 GPU, because you'll notice the difference, for sure.

However, for budget builds, I'm often suggesting an essentially identical system to mine that Cantii helped me put together when I was still regaining my knowledge on current tech.

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Personally I would never get an SLI motherboard, SLI just has to many hangups and well, maintaining a single card is easier. I also don´t like nvidia chipsets.

I would buy Intel CPU (i5) and a motherboard with Z68 or P67 chipset (Asus or Gigabyte)..

It would be nice if you could post a link to the webpage where you plan on buying your parts, that way it´s easier to recommend alternate items and still stay in price range

Just got a machine for my Nephew for 650£ (danish prices so probably more expensive than where you are) with i5 2400 (3.1ghz), GTX 460, 4GB ram, 1 TB Hdd, Gaming kabinet (he is 14 and likes blue light), low noise coolers etc.. Runs wow with everything on max (shadows maxed, 16 times multi sampling bla bla) at 1680x1050 with an average of 140fps, Assassins creed 1+2+3 with everything set to max, sniper ghost warrior with everything on max.

[Eon Drache]

the 460 is MORE than enough to play wow, honestly. turn shadows and AA down a touch, and bam 60 FPS on an i3.

I've got a GTX 460 with a Dual Core atm (I know, Im poor) and I get 60 fps everywhere except raids (30 fps and Orgrimmar). I put my video card into my friends AMD quad at 3.3 and he gets 60 fps in busy org and 90-100 everywhere else with all on ultra except shadows.

EDIT: if you can afford it, I'd get a full size tower. I got a mid tower with a 650W power supply and not enough room if you ask me.

[JonBeMerkin]

Don't get my wrong, the better the card, the more features you can have maxed, and the more stable your FPS will be. If you have a 120 hz monitor, get the $300.00 GPU, because you'll notice the difference, for sure.

However, for budget builds, I'm often suggesting an essentially identical system to mine that Cantii helped me put together when I was still regaining my knowledge on current tech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3pLp...eature=related
Still waiting to get my check to buy my rig, currently i have a 780$ rig with a i5 2500k with R6870.No monitor but im planning on getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009255

[Cantii]

The Sapphire 6870 is pretty darn good, especially at that price. The cooler is good, too, as Sapphire makes some good GPU coolers.

Also, if all you're going to do is play WoW and maybe the occasional other game, then a 6850 will be more than enough (or, as ugg suggested, a GTX 460, though the 6850 is less expensive and will outperform it Then again, I'm batting for the Red Team at the moment...). Though, I can personally attest that the 6870 is a damn fine card.

Edit: Also a fine choice for a monitor. I use the 21.5" version of the same monitor, and I have to say, Acer make some good screens. I think you'll definitely like it Also, be sure to grab an after-market cooler if you plan on overclocking. The Hyper 212 Plus is back down to $30, and it's a beast of a performer at that price.

[Docphil]

Hmm, i was looking at that graphics card over the R6870, opinions? I know the GTX 560 has better performance, but that card isnt TI so not really sure?

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yeah i was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

its 20 bucks less then the gtx 560 i picked out, but only has 1 fan. the gigabyte 2 fan one is same price as the gtx 560 i had in mind

If you want a personal opinion on the 6870 I am running with two of them in my system and they perform great. I took off crossfire just to see what one would do and it is still great performance. You'd be able to run any modern game at med-high settings and don't even worry about wow.

[Cantii]

If you want a personal opinion on the 6870 I am running with two of them in my system and they perform great. I took off crossfire just to see what one would do and it is still great performance. You'd be able to run any modern game at med-high settings and don't even worry about wow.

Make that "You'll be able to run any modern game on High-Max settings..."

[JonBeMerkin]

If you want a personal opinion on the 6870 I am running with two of them in my system and they perform great. I took off crossfire just to see what one would do and it is still great performance. You'd be able to run any modern game at med-high settings and don't even worry about wow.

Thanks for the feedback, appreciated. Sorry to the OP about changing topics, although now you know some extra information about the R6870. Good luck building man