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    Feedback required for project

    I started this thread some time ago: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-new-challenge!

    So far, I have only recruited three real-life friends. Generally people seem to just 'lol' in trade when I try to recruit people in-game, however I am taking this project very seriously and would like to see it happen.

    That is why I'm asking you guys for feedback; what do I need to do to kick-start my idea? Should I start funding people, should I add something to my recruitment post and drop some parts of the idea? Any help is appreciated.

    Also, still recruiting skilled and friendly players!

    ~Yuc

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    It's definitely a nice way to train yourself and not over-rely on gear, but you'll be hitting brick walls on 'current' content like no tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timoseewho View Post
    It's definitely a nice way to train yourself and not over-rely on gear, but you'll be hitting brick walls on 'current' content like no tomorrow.
    So, question: why don't you join? That's what I want to know.

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    I know how you emphasized on understanding that people have mains and stuff, so this project would only be for alts I'm guessing. I've already gotten my hands full on my main in terms of raid nights and stuff><, so that'd be the main thing stopping me from raiding another 1-2 nights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayuEU View Post
    So, question: why don't you join? That's what I want to know.
    Quote Originally Posted by timoseewho View Post
    you'll be hitting brick walls on 'current' content like no tomorrow.
    for any serious end game raider, this just isn't a good idea. Healers in green gear just cannot keep up with the damage from firelands bosses, not enough mana regen or through put to heal tanks in green gear through hits that'll hit the tank for 70-80% of their health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayuEU View Post
    So, question: why don't you join? That's what I want to know.
    I wouldnt even think about joining because its simply not feasible. Whether its the dps checks, the tank effective health or anything else it simply wont work.

    While gear isnt quite as important as skill there is a VAST difference from 333 greens to 359 epics in terms of stats. The reason you dont seem to have much luck recruiting is because the whole thing is an excercise in futility. Youre going to be wasting your time and that of others in your guild.

    You might as well start a <no food, no flask, no gem, no enchant> raiding guild.

    The reason min-maxing exists is because it is the process by which you get the most out of your character. Which is effectively what youre trying to do with the one big exception being that youre using this stipulation of green gear only as a cop-out for why you wont clear content. Sure there may be a few bosses you can clear, but it will only come after severe nerfs, and gimmick fights.

    Hell id bet even ZA/ZG would be difficult to impossible in only green gear.
    I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money; but what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I've acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now that will be the end of it. I will not look for you, i will not pursue you but if you don't; I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

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    While I'm sure you may think you came up with an interesting idea or project, the point you're trying to prove has already been proven by a few other groups of people and let me be the first to tell you that not that many people care.

    At the end of the day in a best case scenario you'll end up clearing a few normal encounters from the previous tier and eventually realize the statement you're trying to make to whomever you can claim as an audience isn't that significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayuEU View Post
    So, question: why don't you join? That's what I want to know.
    A lot of the fun of MMORPGs is character development. That feeling of increasing in power from item to item, especially when its something major like a weapon.

    If you're in greens 100% of the time that can't exist.

    Also this has been done, but with blues in WotLK. Greens simply do not have enough item budget to be workable though, noone wants to join a guild that's just going to wipe over and over because of artificial limitations being used.

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    That idea was already done but with blues in ICC by Greedygoblin (http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/) before he started his "The PuG" project, they killed 8/12 I believe with greens only and no vent/mumble/teamspeak/skype/oovoo/whatever else exists.

    I honestly do no believe it is doable in Cataclysm, especially with greens, there just isin't enough stats on it, healers won't keep up

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