1. #2861
    Im hoping stephano has a breakout DH summer, also want to see the dong get another crack at the final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatblast View Post
    Im hoping stephano has a breakout DH summer, also want to see the dong get another crack at the final.
    Well if I'm not mistaken this is going to be one of the last events from the french zerg player

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    Yay NaniWa out of the tourney.

  4. #2864
    PCs being crap again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wass View Post
    It is normal to see people rage at getting cheesed yes.

    You can cheese up to the highest possible level in SC2. Because people are different kinds of good at cheesing.

    For instance, I could hold a bronze player's cannon rush blindfolded. I would probably have a way harder time against a grandmaster though.

    But in grandmaster cannon rush isn't even really a viable cheese. There you do other things like 3gate with a hidden robo or something.

    But as always, if you wanna get better at SC2, cheese is not the way to go. Practice macro games for that.
    I think that cannon rushing effective at all levels of play, in GM you just know the best places to put the cannons and pylons. Look at Gaulzi or CombatEX, or Deezer for instance (granted their horrible people but still, they can cheese) :P



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    Why isn't there a good x hero siege game on the arcade?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    Why isn't there a good x hero siege game on the arcade?!
    Because X-hero siege was never good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Because X-hero siege was never good.
    I disagree. It's fun the first time you play it. Aftger that, nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyra View Post
    Because what they are atm are plait tugging, sniffing, glaring, prissy, clothes obsessed bitches who I would quite cheerfully drown.
    I often post from my mobile device, typos in my posts are 99% likely to be because of that.
    All I would ever want and need is a hug.

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    Tlo !

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    Lol, today I have seen everything. Sjow 2-1s Life.

    Lol wtf.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyra View Post
    Because what they are atm are plait tugging, sniffing, glaring, prissy, clothes obsessed bitches who I would quite cheerfully drown.
    I often post from my mobile device, typos in my posts are 99% likely to be because of that.
    All I would ever want and need is a hug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wass View Post
    Lol, today I have seen everything. Sjow 2-1s Life.

    Lol wtf.
    Yeah, holy fuck that third game was amazing. Was at the edge of my seat. Sjows splits were incredible and those 4 widow mines spread across the map saved him.

    But goddamn, that was holy hell, so intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wass View Post
    Lol, today I have seen everything. Sjow 2-1s Life.

    Lol wtf.
    Bah! I was in an interview at the time.

    Sad about TLO but it wasn't too unexpected. Pretty sad to get cheesed out of a tournament by your teammate though.

    Looking forward to this TvZ next up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    Pretty sad to get cheesed out of a tournament by your teammate though.
    I'm so sick of everyone saying that...

    Guess what? Cheese is part of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holz View Post
    Guess what? Cheese is part of the game.
    It's still not an excuse for doing it, especially to a teammate in the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    It's still not an excuse for doing it, especially to a teammate in the finals.
    I bet nobody would give a fuck if TLO would have done it to Taeja.

    Speaking of TLO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    It's still not an excuse for doing it, especially to a teammate in the finals.
    This is where you are wrong. You play to win, and by changing up your build order you keep your opponent in the dark. Knowing what your opponent will do gives you an advantage, by changing you macro builds with the occasional cheese you force him to scout and not play greedy blind.

    Teammate yes, cheese yes, acceptable? Yes, form of high lvl play? Yes. Accepted by viewers who want to see macro games? Not so much.

  18. #2878
    Cheese is legit part of gameplay and valid strategy, most (all) cheeses can be stopped by proper scouting and game knowledge, long macro games aren't only showcases of skill. I'll never forget Boxer flying to high gold expansion on metalopolis while being 0:3 versus idra at MLG, that took some incredible balls and worked beautifully.

  19. #2879
    Outsider Stardust just won Dreamhack. Great tournament. The presentation couldn't get much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holz View Post
    I'm so sick of everyone saying that...

    Guess what? Cheese is part of the game.
    Cheese is still disappointing to watch, rather than a cool long macro game.



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