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    Archaeology, is there a "drop chance" on the artifacts/rare artifacts?

    So I have been farming archaeology for around 5-6 days, to get the Scepter of Azj'Aqir. Every time I have been on WoW, the only thing I have been doing is to farm for it. I'm just starting to wonder... is there some kinda "chance" for it to be found? I know it's rare, but how rare is it?

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    I'm not sure that there's an official drop rate on the mount while digging. Most people measure progress by how many solves they have... it takes most people 200+ Tol'vir solves. Some get lucky and get it much sooner... others have well over 400 solves.

    That's why I sell Tol'vir Hieroglyphics for a lot of gold.

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    200 or 400 solves.... that's alot! But is there any kinda addon that can help with how many solves you got?

    And what about the other items from Tol'vir? I already got the pet, ring and Pendant of the Scarab Storm?

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    There is a macro that gives you how many artifacts you solved for each race, i found it in Zink roth (the troll archeology sword) comments on wowhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busybee View Post
    I'm not sure that there's an official drop rate on the mount while digging. Most people measure progress by how many solves they have... it takes most people 200+ Tol'vir solves. Some get lucky and get it much sooner... others have well over 400 solves.

    That's why I sell Tol'vir Hieroglyphics for a lot of gold.
    You... just described the exact mechanic of a drop rate.

    The % of a drop rate is just an average. Some might get it on the first try, some the 400th, but in large sample sizes, the odds of getting a drop average out to the rate. Which is probably in the neighborhood of 1% for the rare arch solves, maybe a bit less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exdeath202 View Post
    There is a macro that gives you how many artifacts you solved for each race, i found it in Zink roth (the troll archeology sword) comments on wowhead.
    Ok thanks.

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    I got my mount at around 80 solves.

    /run local g,a,n,c,r=GetArtifactInfoByRace for x=1,9 do r,a,n,c=0,0,GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x),GetNumArtifactsByRace(x)for y=1,c do a=a+select(9,g(x,y))r=r+select(3,g(x,y))end print(n..': '..c..' (rare: '..r..' solved: '..a..')')end

    Use that in a macro with your Archaeology window open to your completed artifacts tab open and it will show you how many artifacts you've solved for each race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rankin View Post
    I got my mount at around 80 solves.

    /run local g,a,n,c,r=GetArtifactInfoByRace for x=1,9 do r,a,n,c=0,0,GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x),GetNumArtifactsByRace(x)for y=1,c do a=a+select(9,g(x,y))r=r+select(3,g(x,y))end print(n..': '..c..' (rare: '..r..' solved: '..a..')')end

    Use that in a macro with your Archaeology window open to your completed artifacts tab open and it will show you how many artifacts you've solved for each race.
    Are you sure it's working? Right? It says that I got 0 rare and 0 solved from dwarfs, so with some other races. And what is the number, before the rare and solved numbers?

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    You need to have your archaeology window open to the completed artifacts tab for the macro to work.

    When it works, you get something like this:

    Night Elf: 25 (rare: 7 solved: 389)

    25 is the number of rare and unique common artifacts you've solved for the race. (Rare: 7) is how many rare items you've solved and (solved: 389) is the total number of artifacts you've completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rankin View Post
    You need to have your archaeology window open to the completed artifacts tab for the macro to work.

    When it works, you get something like this:

    Night Elf: 25 (rare: 7 solved: 389)

    25 is the number of rare and unique common artifacts you've solved for the race. (Rare: 7) is how many rare items you've solved and (solved: 389) is the total number of artifacts you've completed.
    Yea I found out, had to have my window with completede artifacts open. And thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitlovin View Post
    You... just described the exact mechanic of a drop rate.

    The % of a drop rate is just an average. Some might get it on the first try, some the 400th, but in large sample sizes, the odds of getting a drop average out to the rate. Which is probably in the neighborhood of 1% for the rare arch solves, maybe a bit less.
    Yeah, but there isn't any reliable way to gather the same vast amount of information about it as there is about normal drops.
    And that's why accounts of "I got it in X" aren't really informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weerra View Post
    Yeah, but there isn't any reliable way to gather the same vast amount of information about it as there is about normal drops.
    And that's why accounts of "I got it in X" aren't really informative.
    What do you mean? The archaeology tab automatically tracks total solves and number of each item solve, which works just as well as some addon counting drops.


    Also, not to insult anyone's intelligence or anything, but tracking number of solves isn't a very useful way to determine if you're "due" the rare that you want. If you already have 400 solves, you have the exact same probability to get it after ANOTHER 400 solves as someone with 0 solves. Tracking the number is only useful if you are compiling statistics.

    (There has been speculation about whether the RNG is weighted or not, which may be the case.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auloria View Post
    What do you mean? The archaeology tab automatically tracks total solves and number of each item solve, which works just as well as some addon counting drops.


    Also, not to insult anyone's intelligence or anything, but tracking number of solves isn't a very useful way to determine if you're "due" the rare that you want. If you already have 400 solves, you have the exact same probability to get it after ANOTHER 400 solves as someone with 0 solves. Tracking the number is only useful if you are compiling statistics.

    (There has been speculation about whether the RNG is weighted or not, which may be the case.)
    You ARE more likely to get it after 400 solves than after 0, because by 400 (and still no mount) you should have
    already completed a few of the other rare ones for Tol'vir. Im pretty sure you won´t get the same rare twice...
    I haven´t atleast, and i´ve finished all the digging achievements, just hoping for the mount and the last pet, both Tol'vir.

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    Not about any dropchance there (tho dropchance is rng) but Im at 212solves in Tol'Vir (doing this for like 4month like 2 to 3 hrs a week) and still havent seen anything except the ring. Guess Im just pretty unlucky there. Tho I even have 135 solves in Fossil and didnt got the mount there either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilution View Post
    You ARE more likely to get it after 400 solves than after 0, because by 400 (and still no mount) you should have
    already completed a few of the other rare ones for Tol'vir. Im pretty sure you won´t get the same rare twice...
    I haven´t atleast, and i´ve finished all the digging achievements,
    just hoping for the mount and the last pet, both Tol'vir.
    Actually, right from the beginning, Blizzard made it clear that it was not possible to get any of the rares more than one time. As for there being a 'drop rate', considering the nature of the profession it might be possible on some level somewhere to figure out one, but it would be far more work that it would be worth. One of my friends was running Archeology at least a couple of hours almost every day since the profession became available, and he only JUST got the mount about three weeks ago. And at that, he only ran Archeology in Kalimdor to try to improve his chances of getting it.
    Last edited by Vyncent; 2011-10-11 at 11:17 AM. Reason: spelling corrections

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    like 600 ish solves for that troll sword, gave up age ago xD

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