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    Paid security solution?

    Recently I got around to thinking about internet security after my guildmate was keylogged. What is your opinion on free vs. paid? I am thinking of paid just because of how much I use my laptop. I do my banking on my laptop too. I'm usually very careful with my data and stuff. I'm also a moderate knowledgeable user - i.e comfortable with tweaking and computer administration, not just because I spend 4 hours on Facebook. At the same time, I'm not an IT specialist.

    So I'm thinking of paid security solution just for ease of mind. What would you recommend, based on my needs (banking and security while outside Wi-Fying)? My home doesn't have any other users or network.

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    if you are talking about an internet security suite, then macafe, norton and kaspersky are gonna be your best options, with kaspersky being the best of those, if you are worried about your identity then there are a few companies like life-lock which are in that that area

    the thing to remember is that worrying about being hacked is like worrying about being shot walking down the street, it's entirely possible, yet improbable, a computer hacker is not interested hacking you for your one bank account, they would rather hack the bank and get all the accounts

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    No really.. I use AVG Internet Security 2011. I honestly couldn't say if it's better than any other paid solution, but I haven't been hacked so I guess that counts for something right?

    I would also be interested in what people think is a good solution and whats better/worse.

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    I know a guy who had some serious security software. One day he wanted to download some software so he searched for it and find it on some shady site. Then he downloaded its setup and run it with admin permissions and then ... BAM

    No software can protect you against those things and face the fact almost all the keylogers are installed WITH the user's permission.

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    If you want to get a paid software that can ward off Keyloggers and such, i would buy the registered version of Malwarebytes Anti-Malware.

    MBAM may be a removal tool, but it also has an active shield if you buy it, and it works properly with the same engine it uses to removal malware.
    It's not an anti-hacking tool, but it'll stop any malware dead in it's tracks including keyloggers as it also is a file protection and site blocking software.

    Make no mistake, it's not an anti-hacking security suite, it protects specifically against these sort of things and against this sort of stuff it is freakin' amazing.

    I bought a key for MBAM, i suggest you do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mroz123 View Post
    No software can protect you against those things and face the fact almost all the keylogers are installed WITH the user's permission.
    This 100%. I run Microsoft Security Essentials (free, don't need to rebuy it every year) along with Spybot Search and Destroy/the free MBAM but thanks to Adblock and NoScript in Firefox I find maybe 1 or 2 results there every 3 months I do a scan. As for banking while on public Wi-Fi I don't recommend it, and if someone with the knowledge wanted to get your details no amount of software would stop them.

    I recommend you ask your bank about getting an authenticator and buy one for WoW if you're worried about that.

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    Did someone above me REALLY just say Norton or Mcaffe? You realise how awful they are, really, ask anyone. They are a massive waste of money.

    If you wanna go free, use Microsoft Security Essentials OR AV/avast/whatever. And also download Malwarebytes to scan for Malware.

    You want paid? Eset NOD32 is the way to go. Norton and Mcaffe will fuck everything up, slow down your computer and dont really offer much protection anyways (because every virus and their cat works out ways to get past those 2, since everyone uses them. Its how to be a virus 101).
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    Deathwing: No. The Grimtotems weakened him with poison, and then Garrosh accidentally hacked him to death with an axe during a heated political discussion.
    Cho’Gall: How do you accidentally kill someone with an axe?

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    i currently use mbam paid version and kaspersky i highly recommend both have tried eset nod32 it is a good bit of kit but is far behind bitdefender and kaspersky

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    Currrently I believe AVIRA has the best balance of regular detection and heuristics detection, without getting too many false positives in the process.

    However, far more important than your anti-virus is making sure that they can't infect your computer to begin with. JAVA and Flash should be up to date at all times, as should the Adobe Reader if you use it. It is also highly adviced that you prevent your browser from being able to automatically open content of those types. Java (if even installed) and PDF (Again, if you use Adobe Reader in the browser) should have minimal impact; Java is rarely used, and PDFs can still be opened outside your browser. Flash however is used often enough that you might want a click-to-load or similar setup active.

    Even if you visit only trusted sites, it is important to realize trusted sites are sometimes compromised - which is why the above safeguards are important. I seem to recall MMO-Champion having at least two occasions where malware was implanted on the website that used one of the above mentioned programs to infect machines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdruidelf View Post
    Did someone above me REALLY just say Norton or Mcaffe? You realise how awful they are, really, ask anyone. They are a massive waste of money.
    yes, someone did, you realize norton is the top antivirus software out there?
    http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/colle...6/article.html

    while macafe isn't on that list, i've used it in the past and never had any problems with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdruidelf View Post
    Did someone above me REALLY just say Norton or Mcaffe? You realise how awful they are, really, ask anyone. They are a massive waste of money.

    If you wanna go free, use Microsoft Security Essentials OR AV/avast/whatever. And also download Malwarebytes to scan for Malware.

    You want paid? Eset NOD32 is the way to go. Norton and Mcaffe will fuck everything up, slow down your computer and dont really offer much protection anyways (because every virus and their cat works out ways to get past those 2, since everyone uses them. Its how to be a virus 101).
    Thumbs up, agree, +1, yes yes yes.

    /hopes I dont get infracted for this.

    NAV is awful not because It doesnt do much but because of how it works. It put your computer in a virtual bank vault putting a strangle hold on every single process on your computer. I know many people who use it, and have used it, and swear by it. I also have personally had to repair hundreds of computers because NAV has single handedly broken them. Take your pick, I almost view NAV as a virus.
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    I have never been hacked or key logged in the 7 years I have played WoW. I use AVG (paid), and MalWare Bytes. I have very little faith in McAfee and Norton. Tried and tested I still download torrents and all of that stuff, and haven't had a virus in 4 or more years. The last one I got AVG caught and gobbled up fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    if you are talking about an internet security suite, then macafe, norton and kaspersky are gonna be your best options, with kaspersky being the best of those, if you are worried about your identity then there are a few companies like life-lock which are in that that area

    the thing to remember is that worrying about being hacked is like worrying about being shot walking down the street, it's entirely possible, yet improbable, a computer hacker is not interested hacking you for your one bank account, they would rather hack the bank and get all the accounts
    I had nothing but problems with Kaspersky after multiple installs. Total resource hog and killed my system performance. I haven't bothered with any 3rd party software outside of Microsoft Security Essentials (comes with Win7 now) and comp has been clean for over a year now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    yes, someone did, you realize norton is the top antivirus software out there?
    http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/colle...6/article.html

    while macafe isn't on that list, i've used it in the past and never had any problems with it
    Are you seriously trying to tell me it isnt a resource hog?

    Google Norton is and see the first few suggestions...
    Cho’Gall: Cairne Bloodhoof is dead? Did we kill him?
    Deathwing: No. The Grimtotems weakened him with poison, and then Garrosh accidentally hacked him to death with an axe during a heated political discussion.
    Cho’Gall: How do you accidentally kill someone with an axe?

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    Norton, BitDefender, Kaspersky and F-Secure are the better paid AV programs, and the list has been the same for past three years, just order changes. Can't really go wrong picking any of the four.

    Kaspersky is bit nerdish, works great for tinkers but less good straight out of the box for novices. F-Secure has slow scanning but otherwise good.


    Eset NOD32 is the most overrated AV program on this forum in this and all previous threads, and I have no clue wtf is the fixation with it. It used to be good five years ago, but the problem today is that it's useless in weeding out rootkits and really advanced trojans, and the only fix in most cases is format c:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdruidelf View Post
    Are you seriously trying to tell me it isnt a resource hog?
    It was resource hog years ago, since NIS 2008 the excessive CPU usage was fixed and it has been one of the top three AV programs now three years running. Welcome to 2011.
    Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
    Trolling should be.

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    Malwarebytes and Spybot for years now, never had an issue. The best thing you can do is just be smart about what you are opening. I have found in my line of work that a lot of folks are fooled by popups that give you the option to close. The close button isn't always what it appears to be. Control - Alt - Delete and kill the process if you ever encounter this issue.

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