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  1. #1601
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaeral View Post
    Ilvl 669-670
    Current logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4th9b1LVzamqkBH3

    Expectation: I feel like I'm doing okay on ST fights as SV but I would want some general advice on how to perform even better on multiple target fights. I feel like my numbers are off there.

    I will try out BM next week, might update logs then. Any general advice would be welcome. Thanks!
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  2. #1602
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    Spec SV
    Item Level 678
    Expectations: Honestly i dont know how high dps i should expect
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ragnaros/Vollst/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/reports/GCwv4Jay3AmRDPxp#type=damage-done

    I have been feeling lately that i havent been performing as good as i could have been with my gear. Would really appreciate if you could help

  3. #1603
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaeral View Post
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    I am going to assume you are Chixien in the logs.

    Firstly on Beastlord, you spent a significant amount of time doing 0 DPS cos you got pinned down 3 times. For 3 whole minutes you were getting pinned repeatedly and you prioritised Arcane Shot waaay more than you should in an AoE intensive fight like Beastlord.


    For Mythic you did good, 94th percentile for your ilvl bracket.

    For Hans and Frans, I saw you went Lone Wolf. AFAIK LW does not affect SrS damage which is a huge part of our DPS. I see a pattern emerging, you are actually underutilizing Barrage :P Unlike most people who post here, you actually use way fewer Barrages than you should.
    Quote Originally Posted by nnelson54 View Post
    More amusing than that is the fact that the entire basis behind Sinestra as a lore character is that she was the only dragon who was able to withstand the power of Deathwing's cock.

  4. #1604
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    Spec: Survival
    Item Level: 657
    Expectations:I'd like to do at least 20k consistently. My only stumbling block is getting gear (very casual guild).
    Armory Link:http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ichaela/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...mary&source=28

    There are 2 fights on the WCL link, 9 wipes to Darmac N with my guild and several wipes on Butcher H with a pug and a couple guildies. It was a rough night Please, analyze the heck out of everything and give me all the constructive criticism you can. I will be going BM come 6.1, so you could also tell me how well that will work with my gear. Thanks so much.

  5. #1605
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samfisher View Post
    I am going to assume you are Chixien in the logs.

    Firstly on Beastlord, you spent a significant amount of time doing 0 DPS cos you got pinned down 3 times. For 3 whole minutes you were getting pinned repeatedly and you prioritised Arcane Shot waaay more than you should in an AoE intensive fight like Beastlord.


    For Mythic you did good, 94th percentile for your ilvl bracket.

    For Hans and Frans, I saw you went Lone Wolf. AFAIK LW does not affect SrS damage which is a huge part of our DPS. I see a pattern emerging, you are actually underutilizing Barrage :P Unlike most people who post here, you actually use way fewer Barrages than you should.
    Oh woops, I forgot to mention I am Abzurd in the logs.

  6. #1606
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaeral View Post
    Oh woops, I forgot to mention I am Abzurd in the logs.
    You're 90th percentile on most fights, not much else you can really do besides getting more gear :P
    Quote Originally Posted by nnelson54 View Post
    More amusing than that is the fact that the entire basis behind Sinestra as a lore character is that she was the only dragon who was able to withstand the power of Deathwing's cock.

  7. #1607
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samfisher View Post
    You're 90th percentile on most fights, not much else you can really do besides getting more gear :P
    I know, the fights on which I get 95ish percentile are either ST/cleave. On AoE fights like Beastlord I'm only at 80th percentile so I'm wondering what I do wrong there. Or not entirely right anyway.

  8. #1608
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaeral View Post
    I know, the fights on which I get 95ish percentile are either ST/cleave. On AoE fights like Beastlord I'm only at 80th percentile so I'm wondering what I do wrong there. Or not entirely right anyway.
    AoE fights are even more prone to RNGesus than ST, so you're probably fine.

  9. #1609
    I've got an ilvl of 666.

    The biggest thing holding me back is my bow (http://www.wowhead.com/item=115419/w...ongbow&bonus=0) having seen the HC Brackenspore bow drop 3x and losing out on it 3x..

    I'm not very good with simulators, could anybody give me a rough figure of how much of a dps upgrade the HC Brack bow would be?

    Thanks in advance

  10. #1610
    Quote Originally Posted by mashed94 View Post
    I've got an ilvl of 666.

    The biggest thing holding me back is my bow (http://www.wowhead.com/item=115419/w...ongbow&bonus=0) having seen the HC Brackenspore bow drop 3x and losing out on it 3x..

    I'm not very good with simulators, could anybody give me a rough figure of how much of a dps upgrade the HC Brack bow would be?

    Thanks in advance
    A 695 bow won't make you do good dps if you don't know what you are doing.

    Provide logs and armory

  11. #1611
    Quote Originally Posted by critsohard View Post
    A 695 bow won't make you do good dps if you don't know what you are doing.

    Provide logs and armory
    DPS is fine atm, will probably come back here with questions when I roll MM/BM.

    Was literally just wondering how much difference a weapon makes.

  12. #1612
    Quote Originally Posted by HottieDorf View Post
    Spec: Survival
    Item Level: 657
    Expectations:I'd like to do at least 20k consistently. My only stumbling block is getting gear (very casual guild).
    Armory Link:http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ichaela/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...mary&source=28

    There are 2 fights on the WCL link, 9 wipes to Darmac N with my guild and several wipes on Butcher H with a pug and a couple guildies. It was a rough night Please, analyze the heck out of everything and give me all the constructive criticism you can. I will be going BM come 6.1, so you could also tell me how well that will work with my gear. Thanks so much.
    I'm on my phone so it's hard to break apart everything. However you want to maintain a higher black arrow uptime. 70-80 percent. This will give you significantly more explosive shot damage from the lnl procs.

    For beast lord I make sure to have full focus a barrage and exp trap for each call of the herd.

    I think you need to just practice priorities some more. Maybe use weak auras to track CDs if your having trouble.

    Crow and ba need to be used on cd. Explosive x 3 on lnl proc. and don't waste toth procs. Your dots will help proc more toth so don't delay your long cds even during aoe phases

  13. #1613
    Spec: Survival
    Item Level: 678
    Expectations: Better than what I've been doing? Haha
    Armory Link: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dark-iron/Charlone/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/reports/fyXb3RAdWYBGCvDz#fight=25&type=damage-done (H.Gruul), warcraftlogs.com/reports/fyXb3RAdWYBGCvDz#fight=14&type=damage-done (H.Beastlord), warcraftlogs.com/reports/PpxtjzW9nMr6k7wK#fight=13&type=damage-done (H.Iron Maidens)

    Figured I'd link three different types of fights to get as much help as possible. My gear is pretty decent and I feel like I should be doing a lot better. I'm pretty low on the rankings for my item level, which means I'm doing something (or a lot of things) wrong. I'm just not sure what it is I need to do differently. My guild doesn't really care since we're killing bosses and I'm not at the bottom of the damage meter, but I care. I would like to eventually do mythic modes, but as my performance is right now, I wouldn't even think of applying to a mythic raid.

  14. #1614
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samfisher View Post
    You're 90th percentile on most fights, not much else you can really do besides getting more gear :P
    There is plenty one can do. It's an entire 10 percentiles to gain, and the difference is -huge- in the top.

  15. #1615
    So, I was trying out BM since it'll be the way to go in 6.1, I hadn't played it much before this so I'm sure there's a ton of mistakes in the log. Also, I think we had a ninja pull or two that messed up prepotting on some bosses. Ignore Kromog, I went surv for that.

    Spec: BM
    Ilvl: 677
    Expectations: improvements all around
    Armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...r/Rexia/simple (stats still sv focused)
    Log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...zrCvY#fight=10

    I realized afterwards I should've used amoc on single target fights, but whatever - that'll be different on wednesday anyway.

  16. #1616
    BM
    685
    Pre Patch 6.1

    I'm at a total loss here. Been practicing BM in anticpation of the buffs. Last week I was doing 36.5k as a Blood elf, decided to race switch to Orc for the dps gain as BM. Now I can barely get 33k dps on heroic Gruul over multiple attempts. Can somebody analyse my logs and tell me what the issue is?

    36k attempt last week:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=74

    1 of my many 33k attempts this week:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&source=1



    The funny thing is on my 36k attempt, I only used Beating heart of the mountain and blood fury twice, on all subsequent attempts as an orc I've used beating heart/racial 3x and I can barely scratch around 33k. THE ONLY difference in talent specs is that in the 36k attempt I was using DIRE BEAST as that was what was recommended by azor at the time. I was also using my old multistrike gems/enchants. Now Azor says that Steady shot and haste enchants should have better DPS, but that doesnt seem to be the case. So what is the DEAL?
    Last edited by HappyLuckBox; 2015-02-24 at 01:20 PM.

  17. #1617
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox View Post
    BM
    685
    Pre Patch 6.1

    I'm at a total loss here. Been practicing BM in anticpation of the buffs. Last week I was doing 36.5k as a Blood elf, decided to race switch to Orc for the dps gain as BM. Now I can barely get 33k dps on heroic Gruul over multiple attempts. Can somebody analyse my logs and tell me what the issue is?

    36k attempt last week:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=74

    Some of my many 33k attempts this week:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&source=1
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...one&source=281


    The funny thing is on my 36k attempt, I only used Beating heart of the mountain and blood fury twice, on all subsequent attempts as an orc I've used beating heart/racial 3x and I can barely scratch around 33k. THE ONLY difference in talent specs is that in the 36k attempt I was using DIRE BEAST as that was what was recommended by azor at the time. I was also using my old multistrike gems/enchants. Now Azor says that Steady shot and haste enchants should have better DPS, but that doesnt seem to be the case. So what is the DEAL?
    If you look at your buffs youll see a huge difference in uptime on scales and a few percentages higher uptime on BW aswell. You just had super good rng on your 36k attempt, becuase you had more frenzy stacks on that attempt even tho it was 20 seconds or so shorter than the other ones. You also had 2 additional casts of killshot, better RNG with your pets Bite proccs and just a very high crit and multistrikes percentages across the board. So in essence you were just very lucky the 36k and you can't seem to be as lucky again. Welcome to BM

  18. #1618
    Quote Originally Posted by Jep3 View Post
    If you look at your buffs youll see a huge difference in uptime on scales and a few percentages higher uptime on BW aswell. You just had super good rng on your 36k attempt, becuase you had more frenzy stacks on that attempt even tho it was 20 seconds or so shorter than the other ones. You also had 2 additional casts of killshot, better RNG with your pets Bite proccs and just a very high crit and multistrikes percentages across the board. So in essence you were just very lucky the 36k and you can't seem to be as lucky again. Welcome to BM

    Well I had higher Multistrike because like I said, I was still gemmed/enchanted for multi on that parse. I had since switched to haste. I agree that I had much better uptime on certain procs, but you are forgetting that I did not use a third beating heart of the mountain on the 36k parse, whereas I did use it a third time on the lower dps 33k parse, not to mention I chained the third usage with BW and a potion. With all these factors considered, Isn't it still kind of shocking that I did 3000 DPS LESS than my top parse? I mean if this is the random nature of BM and RNG is going to trump skill by such a huge factor....

    I played MUCH better in the 33k attempt and was rewarded with 3k less dps. Thats just sillly

  19. #1619
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox View Post
    Well I had higher Multistrike because like I said, I was still gemmed/enchanted for multi on that parse. I had since switched to haste. I agree that I had much better uptime on certain procs, but you are forgetting that I did not use a third beating heart of the mountain on the 36k parse, whereas I did use it a third time on the lower dps 33k parse, not to mention I chained the third usage with BW and a potion. With all these factors considered, Isn't it still kind of shocking that I did 3000 DPS LESS than my top parse? I mean if this is the random nature of BM and RNG is going to trump skill by such a huge factor....

    I played MUCH better in the 33k attempt and was rewarded with 3k less dps. Thats just sillly
    Hate to break the news to you but that's how RNG works. Your 36k attempt not only had a slightly shorter kill time, but you had more BW procs. Not only that but you had 4 ring procs vs 7(in the 36k), and 4 of your BW casts lined up with ring AND scales. You just had more stuff lined in your burst in your 36k kill compared to your 33k kill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revi View Post
    Stop equating casual to bad, they're two different things.
    Casual refers to time/effort spent.
    Bad refers to skill.
    Your English isn't casual, it's bad.

  20. #1620
    yo, more of a how to use simc question, where's the option to normalize my scaling to agility? so that they're all 1:X ratio
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