The "Fix my DPS" Thread!

[Ishan]

Marksmanship
944
Above 1 mil dps for Antorus

I can't post links but my character is Jakcie-Staghelm

I would like some help with my dps, it has been much lower then most of my guildies. I would appreciate any help in general.

I've thrown one of your logs into wowanalyser. (seriously people should just start there..) https://wowanalyzer.com/report/BJbyK...+(5:24)/Jakcie

There are a lot of issues that you can easily adress, just click on the suggestions tab in that link.
Some highlights:
- Enchant your gear. (it shows no enchants atm)
- You are over-using arcane shot (so you are focus capping a lot.)
- You used only 3 out of 17 possible windbursts through the whole fight...
- You didn't use trueshot at all...

You probably also want to (re)read the guide on Icy-veins since you seem to be missing the basics of this spec.

[shootsalot]

My question is more a explain my dps instead of fix it.
I did 2 Vatimatras HC Kills in the last days, no gearchanges between :

A short one with 3:59 where i made medicore 1,644m dps :
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CZy1z4vjR7qGPDhJ

A longer one with 4:44 and 1,898m
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AFWJ2gtXqPQb7rCh

I compared both logs and can´t figure out what i did wrong in one or better in the longer fight.
Normally I´d say that the shorter the fight the higher the DPS value should be as the first burst is not divided through the longer fight duration.
Raidbot sims my gear at around 1,820mdps
Am i overlooking something or was the better log simply vom better RNG and procs

btw. if you find ways to improve, pls comment, I´m open for everything

[Ishan]

My question is more a explain my dps instead of fix it.
I did 2 Vatimatras HC Kills in the last days, no gearchanges between :

A short one with 3:59 where i made medicore 1,644m dps :
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CZy1z4vjR7qGPDhJ

A longer one with 4:44 and 1,898m
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AFWJ2gtXqPQb7rCh

I compared both logs and can´t figure out what i did wrong in one or better in the longer fight.
Normally I´d say that the shorter the fight the higher the DPS value should be as the first burst is not divided through the longer fight duration.
Raidbot sims my gear at around 1,820mdps
Am i overlooking something or was the better log simply vom better RNG and procs

btw. if you find ways to improve, pls comment, I´m open for everything

See if you can spot the differences:
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/CZy1z...ootsalot/focus
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/AFWJ2...ootsalot/focus

Overal i'd say you are overcommiting to cobra shot sometimes, which leaves you focus starved. This was more true during the first log than the second.
But it happend in both i think.
Really only use it to prevent focus capping unless you are in BW.

You also were able to use aspect of the wild an additional time with the longer log so that also helps making the 2nd one higher.

Overall you just did a bit better job on the 2nd fight and had additional cooldowns available due to the lenght of the fight.

[Quag]

Hey,

I was wondering if any of the more experienced hunters could have a look at one of the hunters in our guild, Lokim and see if they can identify why his performance is generally so low. He is actively trying to improve, however over the past number of weeks rather than making progress he appears to be less effective rather than more.

Not looking for people to flame him/us, and we are not expecting him to become a top mythic raider overnight, however we are looking for some constructive critism to help us understand what/if anything he is doing wrong so he can improve.

I have linked our most recent Felhounds kill, where he felt he did well, however obviously looking at the logs this is not the case.

Any help would be appreciated,

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

Thanks

[Ishan]

Hey,

I was wondering if any of the more experienced hunters could have a look at one of the hunters in our guild, Lokim and see if they can identify why his performance is generally so low. He is actively trying to improve, however over the past number of weeks rather than making progress he appears to be less effective rather than more.

Not looking for people to flame him/us, and we are not expecting him to become a top mythic raider overnight, however we are looking for some constructive critism to help us understand what/if anything he is doing wrong so he can improve.

I have linked our most recent Felhounds kill, where he felt he did well, however obviously looking at the logs this is not the case.

Any help would be appreciated,

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

Thanks

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Gw2Lt...Lokim/timeline you'll want to check the suggestions tab.
Looks like he is shooting to many aimed shots outside of vulnerable and when it is up he's not waiting till the end of the debuff for maximum effect.
You always want to try and get as many Aimed shots as possible during the vulnerable window, but as late as possible in the debuff for maximum effect.

His use of trueshot is also "interesting" he used it twice, but didn't pop it right at the start of the fight, so he didn't have it up when he had all procs etc. going off.

He could also do with some better legendaries, but that might be because he's new to the spec?

Besides that you seem to have a good MM hunter in your guild as well? So why not ask him to give your other hunter some pointers?

[Quag]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Gw2Lt...Lokim/timeline you'll want to check the suggestions tab.
Looks like he is shooting to many aimed shots outside of vulnerable and when it is up he's not waiting till the end of the debuff for maximum effect.
You always want to try and get as many Aimed shots as possible during the vulnerable window, but as late as possible in the debuff for maximum effect.

His use of trueshot is also "interesting" he used it twice, but didn't pop it right at the start of the fight, so he didn't have it up when he had all procs etc. going off.

He could also do with some better legendaries, but that might be because he's new to the spec?

Besides that you seem to have a good MM hunter in your guild as well? So why not ask him to give your other hunter some pointers?

Appreciate the tips and will definitely mention those to him. Sonar is an excellent hunter, but not great at teaching I'm afraid. Which is what led me to posting here for help. Lokim has all of the MM legendaries, which I assume based on your comments that he is using the wrong ones and should be using the boots and the class ring?

[Ishan]

Boots are very good yeah. The ring he's using might be ok, but that depends on what sims better for him. (haven't done that)
But since he also seems to have a higher than needed "downtime" he might want to look at using the gloves for shooting aimed on the move.
(it does take a tier slot though, but he's not using 6 slots for tier anyway.)

He also has quite a lot of haste on his gear, so he might want to swap some out for mastery if possible.

Overall though, it just seems to be his use of aimed shot in combination with the Vulnerable debuff. Which is the hardest thing to master in the spec tbh.
If you look at Sonar, he cast much more aimed shots during the same fight (even though he has less haste, but it's probably due to lock and load procs from the class ring) and they were better timed resulting in much higher dps.

[Quag]

thanks for taking the time, I will chat to him about this later tonight and point him towards this thread

[Ghostaro]

Spec: BM
Item Level928
Expectations: Do more than 1,1m - It seems that i use more Cobra shots than Kill Command, dont know if im doing something wrong.
Armory Link:Cant post links, BM: Hannael

Have to upload some logs or sims, in raidbot my sim is 1.242.XXX

Anything else need?

[Yvaelle]

Hey Hunters!

I'm in the process of swapping to my Hunter (from my Spriest), I've read some guides but my DPS is really bad so far.
I've read and applied my understanding of the Icy Veins guide, and I seem to do better on a dummy than bosses - so part of the issue may be experience and practice.

I would appreciate some feedback though on the fights to help me understand what I'm getting really wrong. Thanks for the help!

Spec: BM
Item Level: 347
Warcraft Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/charact...a#difficulty=3


Edit: Personal Analysis & Prognosis

I did some comparison between my parse here and the top parse for my item level for that fight here.

The damage proportions are shockingly similar - where my damage comes from seems to be almost identical to the top parse, so it doesn't appear I'm forgetting any abilities or grossly mis-prioritizing spells.

Looking at cast sequence though was interesting - he casts 4 more Kill Commands than me in a shorter encounter time (slightly), but I cast more Cobra Shots - so I'm clearly casting too many Cobra Shots and delaying my Kill Commands.

I'm not using Incendiary Ammunition and that's apparently a mistake.

I'm not using Chimera Shot and he is.

We both have ~90% uptime on Frenzy, but I cast 7 more Barbed Shots - wasted GCDs since the DoT doesn't stack.

We both have ~42% uptime on Bestial Wrath.

When looking at his Bestial Wrath damage spikes though, that's where I see a big different. His BW spikes are all 15-20K DPS during BW. Mine are consistently around 12K DPS during BW.

So my prognosis is I need to cast fewer cobra shots and get comfortable with lower casting activity.
This should enable me to make sure Kill Command is being used the fraction of a second it is available.
This should also help me put out more damage each Kill Command with more focus.

Likely due to coming from casters where you want to "Always Be Casting" - and activity = DPS.
BM it appears is much more similar to Rogue currently - float as close to focus cap as you can manage, without capping, then dump all focus during your burst window.


Unexplained Mystery (Thoughts?)

Here's something I can't explain though. While all my ability damage being within about 1% distribution as the top parse sounds good - 38% of my DPS is my pet, and 38% of the top parse is also pet autos/abilities (excluding Kill Command). My pet did 900k damage, the top parse pet did 1.2M damage.

The number of hits are similar, 341 vs 344, but the average damage per hit is far lower: 2.8k versus 3.6k. Can anyone explain why someone in the same item level's pet would hit 30% harder than mine?

Thanks!

[Cmx]

The second character have more agility and more mastery, maybe it solve your mystery.

[Yvaelle]

The second character have more agility and more mastery, maybe it solve your mystery.

Thanks ya that must be it, during the parses we were only 2 item level different (348 vs 346) but he had 200 more agility and 1300 more mastery rating than I did.

That would probably explain why his pets hit 30% harder than mine.

Thanks!

[Deleted]

wrong section ..ffs

[KingKop]

Hey guys,

can someone help my brother out.
He was parsing 90+% in legion but just can't seem to grasp the BFA rotation. He is clearly doing something wrong.

Character name is - Sârp

Here is Mythic grong,

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

however, as that was his first mythic grong fight, maybe it's better to judge Heroic Grong

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

Thank you

[Kulspruta]

Hey guys,

can someone help my brother out.
He was parsing 90+% in legion but just can't seem to grasp the BFA rotation. He is clearly doing something wrong.

Character name is - Sârp

Here is Mythic grong,

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

however, as that was his first mythic grong fight, maybe it's better to judge Heroic Grong

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

Thank you

Ran it through wowanalyzer and got following; Mythic Grong

You're spending a lot of time being focus capped. Try and avoid this as it is a significant DPS loss. You wasted a total of 354 focus over the course of the fight.
13.06% (<7.50% is recommended)
AVERAGE

Try to cast Double Tap more often.
5 out of 6 possible casts. You kept it on cooldown 80% of the time. (>80% is recommended)
MINOR

Try to cast Trueshot more often.
5 out of 6 possible casts. You kept it on cooldown 89% of the time. (>95% is recommended)
AVERAGE

Your downtime can be improved. Try to Always Be Casting (ABC), this means you should try to reduce the delay between casting spells. If you have to move, try casting something like Steady Shot, since it's castable while moving and doesn't cost any focus. Spells like Rapid Fire and Arcane Shot are also castable whilst moving and good for single target - for multiple targets Multi-Shot might take their place.
9.37% downtime (<7.50% is recommended)
MINOR

You only cast 2.8 Aimed Shots inside your average Trueshot window. This is your only DPS cooldown, and it's important to maximize it to it's fullest potential by getting as many Aimed Shot squeezed in as possible.
Average of 2.8 Aimed Shots per Trueshot. (>3 is recommended)

[Grimdeeds]

[B]Spec Beast mastery
[B]Item Level 436
[B]Expectations: 40k patchwork dps?
[B]Armory Link: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...ras/brewhouser
[B]Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...1&type=summary

I hope this thread is still alive, not sure though. My dps is sucking. I'm new to raiding as hunter. My essences need higher rank for sure, I'm working on that as fast as I can. I need to do more m+10's to try to get better azerite traits too. Having said that, the log I linked I want to share because a player Freya who had virtually same ilvl as me and the fight duration is about the same, but Freya demolished my dps. One thing I noticed in the comparison is that warcraftlogs lists Freya as having nearly 4k MORE agility than me. How the heck is that possible? I did a similar comparison with another BM hunter in my own raid. He's only like 5 ilvl's higher than me, but he has nearly 4k more agility than me listed. What am I missing?

I ran my logs through wowanalyzer and it looks like I need to get faster at using kill command but I'm not sure what else I'm doing wrong. Appreciate any help!

[Schalde]

Not sure if this belong here but i am playing classic and want to get a King banladesh instead of a normal red tiger because of a cooler look, but then i saw that King has a 1.4 atck speed compared to 1.3 for the red tiger... is it a big nerf for raiding or not that big a differetn dps wise??

[DazManianDevil]

[B]Spec Beast mastery
[B]Item Level 436
[B]Expectations: 40k patchwork dps?
[B]Armory Link: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...ras/brewhouser
[B]Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...1&type=summary

I hope this thread is still alive, not sure though. My dps is sucking. I'm new to raiding as hunter. My essences need higher rank for sure, I'm working on that as fast as I can. I need to do more m+10's to try to get better azerite traits too. Having said that, the log I linked I want to share because a player Freya who had virtually same ilvl as me and the fight duration is about the same, but Freya demolished my dps. One thing I noticed in the comparison is that warcraftlogs lists Freya as having nearly 4k MORE agility than me. How the heck is that possible? I did a similar comparison with another BM hunter in my own raid. He's only like 5 ilvl's higher than me, but he has nearly 4k more agility than me listed. What am I missing?

I ran my logs through wowanalyzer and it looks like I need to get faster at using kill command but I'm not sure what else I'm doing wrong. Appreciate any help!

This post is ancient but I'm available to help you if you still need it <3

[Heph47]

Hey all!

I'm an MM Hunter, 190/191 during this raid. If any far more knowledgeable Hunter friends can have a look and give me some ideas of how to generally improve performance, it would be HUGELY appreciated! Not a hardcore raider, but just want to do as much as i can =)

Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3FtLfh2PZDw7qpVM/

Thankyou thankyou

[Rullis]

Hi all!

Just switched back to hunter from frost mage (yeah..) because of reasons. I really like frost mage, but I haven't been on the hunter in a couple of months.
Could you help me out here? I'm Señór.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

I know gear is bad at the moment, but I feel like I should do more.

Also looking for a good guide for MM hunters like this one I have for mage.
https://cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/