Inclusivity Updates in Dragonflight - Body Type Names, New Pronouns and Voice Options

Can't wait to see all the troll-body type/voice mismatch.

Not sure if Blizzard is unintentionally making this more of an insult to these people by under-(or over-?)estimating their community.

Originally Posted by Trmp

Big Mistake by Blizzard

They have opened and joined this hole of argument with no goal to achieve nothing but argument and fantasies


Without offending specific persons
Why not make a option where you can toggle this on or off

I am OK if you want want to be a cat, frog, zebra, potato or gender neutral rock
Would not be OK to change my reality
Respect comes in both ways

If you feel uncomfortable how you look and sound in game and the options gives to more options fine, but i would feel uncomfortable the other way around

This is effecting you, how? There is a toggle for "on and off", it only effects the person who choses to use these options, so if you dont use them its off for you by default.

Originally Posted by Klive

Being gay is totally fine, as you said. Thinking you’re a woman when you’re a man is like thinking you’re a superhero when you’re a kid; we’ll indulge you cause it’s harmless and there’s no need to be a dick. The problem comes when said illusion starts affecting actual people in the real world. That’s when we need to put on a Grinch mask and tell the kids they aren’t heroes, and purple hair ‘Susan’ that his balls are showing.

Exactly, why should we be forced to play pretend with people we don't agree with or care about?

Originally Posted by DanskenVI

Exactly, why should we be forced to play pretend with people we don't agree with or care about?

What, at all, are you being forced into?

Originally Posted by Trmp

Big Mistake by Blizzard

They have opened and joined this hole of argument with no goal to achieve nothing but argument and fantasies


Without offending specific persons
Why not make a option where you can toggle this on or off

I am OK if you want want to be a cat, frog, zebra, potato or gender neutral rock
Would not be OK to change my reality
Respect comes in both ways

If you feel uncomfortable how you look and sound in game and the options gives to more options fine, but i would feel uncomfortable the other way around

But like, you can still pick a masculine body, a masculine voice, and he/him pronouns. No on/off toggle needed, it's still part of the options. We getting mad about *more* options now?

I'll be honest, I have no time for America's current fascination with 1000 genders; but this doesn't bother me in the slightest. Have any of you actually seen how people role play characters? It's a fantasy game and people have been doing odd things in it since it came out.

Originally Posted by Illusions

What do you mean? Normal people should be bothered by the listed things, since those are literally affecting them. I can understand (but not justify) why someone might think 'oh whatever, lgbtq+ stuff doesn't involve me'. Climate change, terrorism, anti-intellectualism, rise of fascism etc are all things that will affect you.

And that is also by not defining what 'normal' people are - I'm sure I'd get a definition that is absurd.

Wow, how impolite.

No, they shouldn't.

A normal person is someone who doesn't constantly feels the need to deconstruct the definition of normality.

Originally Posted by Toppy

Every 1st world country and a lot of none-1st worlders?

Are you one of those ones who think that homosexuality is also a mental illness despite existing for all of human history and only ever being seen as a bad thing when religious groups try to get into politics?

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Why should normal people be bothered by some strangers gender identity?

They shouldn't, because it is not real.

Toggle option is the way forward imo, those that want this can have it, those that don't can keep things as is. You don't win by forcing changes upon people, change takes time and people are resistant to it but throwing this down people's throats is the wrong way to go about it.

Originally Posted by KrayZ33

Can't wait to see all the troll-body type/voice mismatch.

Not sure if Blizzard is unintentionally making this more of an insult to these people by under-(or over-?)estimating their community.

You cant hear other character's voices unless they're in your party.

Originally Posted by Zephre

Toggle option is the way forward imo, those that want this can have it, those that don't can keep things as is. You don't win by forcing changes upon people, change takes time and people are resistant to it but throwing this down people's throats is the wrong way to go about it.

What do you think this is doing that is being "forced" on you?

Originally Posted by Trmp

I am OK if you want want to be a cat, frog, zebra, potato or gender neutral rock
Would not be OK to change my reality
Respect comes in both ways

If you feel uncomfortable how you look and sound in game and the options gives to more options fine
But i would feel uncomfortable where this way is forced

So much this. You're hitting the nail so perfectly, I'd think you're a carpenter...

Originally Posted by Lorgran

So much this. You're hitting the nail so perfectly, I'd think you're a carpenter...

What is being forced?

Originally Posted by Xilurm

You cant hear other character's voices unless they're in your party.

Well... but that would still be a thing in group content which, in this game, is designed around random players as well you have never met.
Dunno, I'd probably feel a bit insulted if I actually care about that kind of thing and out of 40 players (or how many are in LFR again?) 33 are supposedly totally trans for real/whatever you call it.

edit: just imagine your whole raid full of female Lalas in FFXIV with that *one* voice set that is extremely annoying.
But now no one is an actual Lala and everyone is playing with the blue-guy model, but with the same annoying Lala voice.

Originally Posted by Toppy

What do you think this is doing that is being "forced" on you?

Imagine mass replying to everyone who disagrees with you. You must be one stressed out individual lol

Originally Posted by KrayZ33

Well... but that would still be a thing in group content which, in this game, is designed around random players as well you have never met.
Dunno, I'd probably feel a bit insulted if I actually care about that kind of thing and out of 40 players (or how many are in LFR again?) 33 are supposedly totally trans for real/whatever you call it.

edit: just imagine your whole raid full of female Lalas in FFXIV with that *one* voice set that is extremely annoying.
But now no one is an actual Lala and everyone is playing with the blue-guy model, but with the same annoying Lala voice.

why are you so upset by some weird ass hypothetical you just cooked up?

Originally Posted by StillMcfuu

I'll be honest, I have no time for America's current fascination with 1000 genders; but this doesn't bother me in the slightest. Have any of you actually seen how people role play characters? It's a fantasy game and people have been doing odd things in it since it came out.

Correct, it was a fantasy game. But now it's a fantasy game that has to adhere to certain very specific gender "neutrality" options that are being enforced by real world issues. Making it not so much fantasy anymore and less enjoyable if you're looking to spend some time away from all troubles.

Originally Posted by Kharadin

this is what a bigot looks like, kids.

No this is what reality looks like.
Just because you a buying into thos make believe propaganda doesn't mean people who disagree are bigots.

Originally Posted by Kharadin

why are you so upset by some weird ass hypothetical you just cooked up?

At what point did I seem upset?
I really don't care about this non-sense.

But some people probably do, or they wouldn't make this stuff a thing?

Why are you so angry, lol. It's going to be a thing, you just wait and see.

Originally Posted by Toppy

And I'm sure you're bothered by all the other various things that are destroying new generations like climate change, deregulation, the exponential rise of right wing terrorism, encouragement of anti-intellectualism, the removal of history from schools, various conspiracy theories and so on as well.

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Yes all those great and terrible changes such as .... people who dont like it committing constant acts of violence?

More destroying womans sports and other more unsavory things I'm likely not allowed to talk about.

Originally Posted by Zalraki

Correct, it was a fantasy game. But now it's a fantasy game that has to adhere to certain very specific gender "neutrality" options that are being enforced by real world issues. Making it not so much fantasy anymore and less enjoyable if you're looking to spend some time away from all troubles.

This guy gets it