Dungeon Call To Arms Interface, New Support UI, Rated BG PTRs, Comics

Originally Posted by traen

Sadly, this new satchel reward is pretty useless.
First of all - I never do heroics without guild group. And I'm not going to betray my guildies for a stupid satchel.
Second - I have all the old content mounts and pets that drop in dungeons.

So.. what I'm going to get? I'm wasting 1 hour of my life to burst green-geared pugs in heroic dungeon for a hundred gold?
No thanks.

So what is it for? Well, basicly people in dps/healing gear will queue as tank. You will see a lot of tanks with 120k hp. There will be a lot of wipes and classical dialogs like
- You are ignorant bastard, why you queued as tank if you dont have tank gear at all?
- But I just want my satchel !!

Doing rd with pugs will be even more fun than before.

Okay then. We'll be 1 less tank. Big deal! XD I think they expected that.

Yeah wipe that fear from your head. Its not that bad. You can thank Luck of the Draw for that partially.

Possible. I've tanked the last heroic a looong time ago. My tank is only 82 right now because I didn't feel like leveling her.

Usually I prefer healing tanks I know I can trust.

..Broxigar, that's US. No Europe server..? <.<

Omg! Blizzard vs customers! Would love to see more of that even on retrail lol :P

Now Blizzard just needs to tell wath is balanced for them, like instant queues for tanks, 5 mins for healers and 40 mins for dps? or instant for all?

Hmmmmm no screenshot of dps call to arms just the way its going to be on live server... I say do rotation on rolesto make it fair.

Originally Posted by lb

Guess why - DPS waits around 30-45 minutes for an invite - waiting - waiting - waiting - doing booring dailys - more waiting ... doing ah ... eek call of nature - i have to pee - fast ... coming back to screen to see "you are removed from the queue because you dind not respond bla bla bla ..."

so true...

Originally Posted by traen

So.. what I'm going to get? I'm wasting 1 hour of my life to burst green-geared pugs in heroic dungeon for a hundred gold?
No thanks.

Good news! With 4.1 comes a new dungeon that requires AiL 345 to enter, i.e. there won't be a single green amongst the pugs gear! (even if you had all 345 bar one green (typical green is about 316 at best) then your AiL can't be higher than 343). Thus you won't spend any time with green-geared pugs in a heroic dungeon.

Seriously, stop exaggerating and come up with a better reason. Not leaving guild mates behind? valid. Not wanting to put up with whiny DPS who pull before you? valid. Assuming that all pugs are green-geared in heroics? Invalid.

What you'll get if you answer the CtA is a bag of goodies, which can contain rare mounts, pets, etc. If you don't want it then this doesn't apply to you, so no need to reply..

Originally Posted by zalvi

looking at those LFD screenshot, call to arns feature was meant for paladins and druids

haha i was just about to say: Notice the Call to Arms roles that are needed in ALL 4 of the screenshots. I have a feeling I should stop playing my mage and lock... :/

rated battlegrounds

What makes non rated battlegrounds successful is that you don't have to build your own team to participate, simply queue in and play. This is cool but not challenging and rewarding enough for everyone. What people wanted is serious pvp in big groups but no building and managing your own team, or in other words nothing like arena.

Everyone assumed rated battlegrounds would rate your personal performance and participation to the battleground, but instead we got arena 2.0. Rated battlegrounds is simply a bigger versions of arenas....

Originally Posted by yatsuba

Hmmmmm no screenshot of dps call to arms just the way its going to be on live server... I say do rotation on rolesto make it fair.

Great idea. Maybe do it like they were doing the heroic daily back in the day. Every day have a new call to arms role. If you miss out, you have to wait a few days until you get your free loot.

I think blizzard is just looking to noobify the game. Its sad really.

Edit: ^ Even more***

If you think this will solve your queue times you are very, very mistaken. Probably a pathetic amount of gold, a flask you can get with your guild, and a mount that if you ever farmed mounts (I farmed the Kara one since TBC and never even SAW it), it won`t make me queue any more than I do now, which is one a day on both tanks. You might see more dumb dps switching to tank with 0 clue how to, with terrible gear, but yeah...it won`t change a thing.

also to you stupid dps going AGH NO FAIR, DO ROTATION LET US GET SATCHEL! get a fucking clue, they`re trying to get more people to tank and heal, WHY would they offer rewards to dps when it would encourage you to tank or heal if you can? in the real world, you don`t offer something to everyone if you want specific people to do something, you offer it to those specific people so they do it, morons.

IF makes ques shorter for DPS I'm fine with it. But I cant see that happening, seems like they may get longer, so now I'm pissed...

Originally Posted by Indiglo

IF makes ques shorter for DPS I'm fine with it. But I cant see that happening, seems like they may get longer, so now I'm pissed...

You're pissed because you're pessimistic about a change that has yet to be fully implemented on the PTR, yet alone live? Do you wake up like that?

Those comics are just awful :/

Originally Posted by Indiglo

IF makes ques shorter for DPS I'm fine with it. But I cant see that happening, seems like they may get longer, so now I'm pissed...

well to get tank gear you need to get the drops first. so st*t loads of DPS are gona flood the queues, rests simply gona reg as tanks and act stupid.

And also casuals not gona please the system for some mount. they play for fun and tanking is not fun for casuals.

Originally Posted by zalvi

looking at those LFD screenshot, call to arns feature was meant for paladins and druids

so?

the right class beckons, my child

Originally Posted by Ogait

After a while, random queues for DPS'ers will be 3-4 minutes when Healers/Tank will take 5-6 minutes.

In the remote possibility that that should ever happen, then you should queue as a DPS for a quick queue.

Originally Posted by Ogait

This won't affect me since my Main is a healer, but I don't think it's fair to give rewards only to Tank/Healers.

Basically, we'll get overwhelmed by Healers & Tanks because every one that don't need VP from Random Heroics but need mounts, will run them on alts and not on their Mains (DPS'ers).

After a while, random queues for DPS'ers will be 3-4 minutes when Healers/Tank will take 5-6 minutes.

//Ogait

If that ever happends (don't worry - it dont) then Blizzard were successful in reducing queue times for DPS from 20-50 minutes to 3-4 minutes (or even instant if dps will be the limiting factor).

AND if that happends (lack of dps - overflow of healers and tanks) - then you only get goodie bag if you join queue as single DPS - not as tank or healer (or all three roles get one - or no role get one).

Blizzard WANT people to join the queue as tank or healer. If people plyaing a hybrid shift from dps to tank or healer - or if they run dungeons on their tank alt. Doesn't matter. It is all good. It reduce queue times for DPS. Goal is meet.



What I am worried about is all them tanks that normally ran instances with a premade group, now will run the instance solo instead. And the DPS they played with will now enter the LFD queue. So you might get more tanks to sign up, but you might also get more DPS.

...but overall queue times should probably go down for DPS = A Good Thing(tm)

Originally Posted by Raistlin Majere

Love the new look GM support

Question is for the CTA's, can you only get the satchel 7 times in a week? "You may recieve this award 7 more times this week"

I think players will hold off doing the Random if they cant get a chance at satchel.

I know it's not very clear looking at the screen, but the 7 times a week is more for the new heroic system where you can do all your heroics in a given week in a row instead of doing 1 a day.