Patch 4.3 Preview - The All New Darkmoon Faire

It’s incredible! It’s unbelievable! You’ll be dazzled. You’ll be amazed!

I doubt it. But please, let's continue to blow this topic out of proportion by continuing to hypothesize about Blizzard's future endeavors with WoW. Random people's internet opinions contain all the information I need to make an informed judgement of how I view the game. This just reminds me of what happens every year when the McRib comes back. Some McDonald fans are like "Awesome! New sandwich! McDonald's is so good to us!" While others are like "It's not a new sandwich. We've had that before. That's boring" Then the McRib fans exclaim "This is like the best sandwich in the whole world, life can't get better." While the older McRib fans reply "It tasted better years ago before they started draining the fat out." It's a McRib guys. McDonalds hypes it up, but it's nothing to get overly excited or riled up about.

Originally Posted by Bombkirby

If end game raiders all have your sour attitude I'd never give you guys any content. Clearly those people are never happy, never satisfied, always hungry for more stuff....and when they get it? They QQ and complain.

Not only that, what do they expect from Blizzard as new content? Even with new dungeons and raids they're never happy. Why? Because there is only so much you can do like new textures and layouts and Boss mechanics but I think it's obvious they've used up mostly everything there is. I think Blizzard has realized from their numbers that a big chunk of the player base likes and prefers content like this that is not raid/dungeon.

Originally Posted by keLston

Because people are looking for actual content, not a daily quest hub with arbitrary gating mechanics to pace how long it takes you to actually get to the end so that it will last until the next expansion since 4.3 is the last content patch until the next expansion.

If you looked at it expansion by expansion, this is the worst expansion by amount of actual content but each time someone brings it up, some Blizzard apologist quickly comes up with some excuse demanding people to stop being so negative. Why? Did your monthly subscription start costing less? Did Cataclysm expansion cost less than the TBC expansion or WotLK expansion?

TBC gave us nearly 60 raid bosses, a new "planet", a ton of new dungeons and bosses within, heroics, and love it or hate it gave us arenas and daily BG/honor grinds as a way for PvPers to compete which was also brand new content. WotLK gave us like 45 some raid bosses, a new continent, a handful of new dungeons, and it gave casuals a way to gear up with the Argent Tournament.

Cataclysm will end up giving us 20? some raid bosses and at least 2 end ones so far have been recycled (Nef and Ragnaros), 7 new dungeons and recycled for us Shadowfang Keep and Deadmines, recycled ZA and ZG and called them "new", gave us like 5 new zones. The content is so lacking, in fact, that Blizzard apologists are so desperate that you're willing to latch on to a side event like the Darkmoon Faire and call it "content"? Oh look it adds a mount ooooh. And some companion pets. Oooooh. So a billion dollar company took a year to add 1 mount and some companion pets? This is what you accept as content now when you are paying the same price? Your bar is so low?

They're not even bothering trying to put out new content because they decided that after 5 years of saying they didn't want you changing how you looked, they reneged and introduced transmogrification and you said HOORAY. So the "new content" of Cataclysm is you going back to do level 60 raids to get the gear you sold 4 years ago, that way, they don't have to make any new things for you because you're too busy going HEHEHE LETS GET THE OLD STUFF AGAIN THAT I FARMED BEFORE.

This is why the game is dumbed down. Because Blizzard keeps lowering the bar and instead of getting an outcry, you just nod and lower your expectations below their bar and accept what they gave you. Giving you less and less each year but trying to squeeze out more microtransactions, and you keep paying for extra while accepting less for the same price you've been paying.

It's absurd. And stupid.

Content? It's not content. It's laughing at you and you're apologizing for it.

Very ignorant and selfish comment considering you pretty much take half of the expansion and consider it as the whole. Who ever said it would be the next Molten Front? Actually, it is quite the contrary: "Once a month, you’ve got a shot at tickets, and the fun never stops ‘cause you can play as many times as you like." Does it ring a bell to you?

Also, did you aleadry forgot that most of Azeroth got revamped for us to fly in? Stop trying to create conspiracies like a converted ex-WoW player and realize the facts: why should it cost less than in vanilla when there is actually more content then ever before? You were never obliged to buy it. If you have that many grudges against the game then why are you still supporting it? Or at least, you still follow the game, unintentionally giving it attention and at the same time a reason to exist. Either way, you are apparently still interested in it.

This is content, no matter what you think when you look at it, but apparently not the additions you were hoping for. Fortunately, those two sloppy-seconds MMO comes out in a short while so hopefully those games will bring you and those of the same way of thinking something to enjoy yourselves.

so this is the place where we get heirloom pants..

Originally Posted by EviForums

Great, like the Winterspring Frostsaber, another epic rep grind gets handed to the masses for doing a few quests.

What are you bitching about.

They brought the Winterspring frostsaber rep quests in line with the Horde raptor mount series in Ungoro.

Originally Posted by Khalkaroth

loadsa words

posts like this is why mmo-champ should have an upvote system tbh.

Originally Posted by keLston

Lots of useful words.

Tbh, posts like this are why mmo-champion should have a voting system.

Originally Posted by InfernalDark

so this is the place where we get heirloom pants..

Oh nice! Yet another heirloom that I no longer have a use for on my server and can't send to another server! Hopefully these heirlooms won't turn out like the Tournament Grounds where we all farm them only to have them bought by Justice Points shortly thereafter. On a side note, can they not treat heirlooms like they do character copies for the ptr now?

So much bitching these days, it's annoying. Blizzard's Dungeon & Raid team is creating a new raid and three new dungeons while their World Events team is creating a new Darkmoon Faire and their UI Development team is creating Transmogrification and Void Storage, two of the most requested features in the history of the game. Still, people have to bitch. They won't remove their nostalgia goggles (if they ever even played Classic and BC) so they're blind to how repetitive and grindy and gated that content actually was compared to the modern endgame. It's clear that these people are never going to be happy with what they get. It's never going to be enough, never good enough. The funny (sad?) thing is that all these people complaining and saying Blizzard is ruining the game with this expansion, are going to jump to Rift or ToR or whatever else, and they'll either be back in six months, or they'll stick with those games for a few years, and then they'll start bitching about how Rift 3.0 is ruining the game or how The Old Republic's next expansion doesn't have enough endgame content. Trying to make those people happy is just a losing prospect. Blizzard would do best just to ignore them completely. If it means the population of the game drops down to 10 million players, it would be worth getting rid of them.

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Originally Posted by msshammy

Oh nice! Yet another heirloom that I no longer have a use for on my server and can't send to another server! Hopefully these heirlooms won't turn out like the Tournament Grounds where we all farm them only to have them bought by Justice Points shortly thereafter. On a side note, can they not treat heirlooms like they do character copies for the ptr now?

FYI, the heirloom vendors were available way before the Argent Tournament was even added. There was always a vendor in Dalaran selling them for Emblems of Heroism (from before they converted all badges to justice points). AT just gave players another way to obtain them.

Originally Posted by Kathranis

So much bitching these days, it's annoying. Blizzard's Dungeon & Raid team is creating a new raid and three new dungeons while their World Events team is creating a new Darkmoon Faire and their UI Development team is creating Transmogrification and Void Storage, two of the most requested features in the history of the game. Still, people have to bitch. They won't remove their nostalgia goggles (if they ever even played Classic and BC) so they're blind to how repetitive and grindy and gated that content actually was compared to the modern endgame. It's clear that these people are never going to be happy with what they get. It's never going to be enough, never good enough. The funny (sad?) thing is that all these people complaining and saying Blizzard is ruining the game with this expansion, are going to jump to Rift or ToR or whatever else, and they'll either be back in six months, or they'll stick with those games for a few years, and then they'll start bitching about how Rift 3.0 is ruining the game or how The Old Republic's next expansion doesn't have enough endgame content. Trying to make those people happy is just a losing prospect. Blizzard would do best just to ignore them completely. If it means the population of the game drops down to 10 million players, it would be worth getting rid of them.

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FYI, the heirloom vendors were available way before the Argent Tournament was even added. There was always a vendor in Dalaran selling them for Emblems of Heroism (from before they converted all badges to justice points). AT just gave players another way to obtain them.

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If I remember correctly, and I may be completely wrong about this. Not all heirlooms were available before the AT. I want to say only shoulders and weapons were available for Emblems. I want to say AT brought heirlooms chests.. again.. it's been a while so I can't say for sure

I like turtles btw

Originally Posted by msshammy

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If I remember correctly, and I may be completely wrong about this. Not all heirlooms were available before the AT. I want to say only shoulders and weapons were available for Emblems. I want to say AT brought heirlooms chests.. again.. it's been a while so I can't say for sure

Yeah, you're right about that. AT brought the chest pieces, the Repurposed Lava Dredger, and maybe a couple other things.

But, of course, they kinda had to put them on the JP vendor, since it's not really fair for them to expect players to go back to Northrend every day to do that boring-ass grind just to get their heirlooms.

The interesting thing is the Darkmoon Faire will be available to all levels, so it might actually be possible for lower level characters to obtain heirlooms on their own, now?

I look forward to seeing how everything's actually implemented when they bring this to the PTR.

Originally Posted by Kathranis

Yeah, you're right about that. AT brought the chest pieces, the Repurposed Lava Dredger, and maybe a couple other things.

But, of course, they kinda had to put them on the JP vendor, since it's not really fair for them to expect players to go back to Northrend every day to do that boring-ass grind just to get their heirlooms.

The interesting thing is the Darkmoon Faire will be available to all levels, so it might actually be possible for lower level characters to obtain heirlooms on their own, now?

I look forward to seeing how everything's actually implemented when they bring this to the PTR.

I agree they "kinda" had to put them on a normal vendor. It's just seems that they tend to out date their own content in this way. But I guess if you want the items now you will do current content, if not you can wait until they are easier to obtain.. shame really.. Heirlooms are available now to lower levels.. lol it's just a hell of a grind! Either way I'm with you, looking forward to seeing how it's actually implemented. And believe it or not new 5-mans has me kinda pumped :-)

Edit: Nevermind. Wrong island. Still trying to remember the small island that was dark and ominous and was filled with elites, then the npc were removed a couple patches ago and Boub or someone found an "event" tied there in the game files.

Not sure what you mean...

The only islands with elites were Alcaz, the Isle of Dread and Purgation Isle. The Isle of Dread was sunk with the Cataclysm and Purgation Isle is now used for quests in Hillsbrad.

There was the thing in the game files that listed Alcaz Island as a 5man dungeon, but that's about it. Besides Alcaz is too small to host the Darkmoon Faire and has a completely different terrain to the screenshots.

So just because this patch contains more than 3 dungeons and a raid it's a bad patch? Great logic...

Looking forward to see this in Live when its all worked out. I´m kinda sad that there are people complaining though.

I'm impressed, they targeted all the right places to make the darkmoon faire attractive for people to come to again, I just hope they keep the old darkmoon faire cannon as awesome as it was in mulgore, I'd sneak all the way into mulgore as an alliance just to suicide off that thing.also boub, get rid of the singing adds. >.< they're popping up on every page.

Why would anyone complain about this patch. Its awesome! DMF update, mogging, the optional raid finder, 3 5mans and the DW raid. Thats alot of content for just a patch. I dont really get it. :/ (Maybe they're "unpleasable" o.o)

Patch 4.3 is what WoW really needs to give it that kick.

I feel like this is just making DMF easier to get exalted and nerfing Insane even more. I wouldn't care so much if there was another massive grind like the original Insane =/