New in 4.3: Inactive Guild Leader Replacement

Note to self: Kick everyone out of guild if I ever plan on taking a break from WoW again. Got it. Thanks for the heads up Blizzard. (I did not know of this before and I'm sure many others didn't as well. Now it's known by mostly everyone, I will be doing the above)

Most GM's won't like this but its really a non issue. So for all GM's who are opposed to this ridiculous attempt by blizzard at dictatorship have no fear. You put 3 plus years of your time gold and hard work into forming this guild and you think your gonna be gone for more then 30 days....G KICK EVERYONE....problem solved...your welcome

ummmmm can the gm disable this feature on his guild? what if he ends up getting deployed? then what? he's supposed to just give up all his stuff that he worked for on his guild/guild tabs? what is this? communism?

what if the gm has an accident and is in a coma for 2 months, he wakes up and he loses his guild? there's countless ways why this is wrong. and im not even a GM and im upset about this

Those getting upset about this (Really?) should know something: Its the exact same process they have always had, but without any GM involvement. Our old GM disappeared back at the end of wotlk. He was offline for over 30 days and we could make no changes to the guild. We petitioned a GM, they did the exact process that is described above (checking his inactivity and emailing him for confirmation) before handing over leadership to our current GM. This was almost exactly a year ago.

obvious ploy to keep subscriptions going, even during periods when players dont want to play.

Still no GM involvement unless you consider an email after the fact GM involvement. No reason to get upset just G Kick everyone! In fact it just makes the situation worse {as do most Communist ideas} because now paranoid GM's are just gonna be mass g kicking people if they think they are gonna be gone.

Originally Posted by Bennydabull

obvious ploy to keep subscriptions going, even during periods when players dont want to play.

To be fair, if you're no longer paying them, why do they care if they give your stuff to someone else?

They're helping paying customers (people still in the guild) at the expense of some dude who isn't their customer anymore (GM with a lapsed subscription). Yup... seems not only logical, but fair.

Edit: Communist? REALLY? You're either trolling (possible), or don't know what the word communism means (probable). It's literally as far from communism as possible. If anything, the guild system is a dictatorship. Just like in a real dictatorship, if the dictator disappears (i.e., not being online for 30 days), the next in power takes overs. The dictator wasn't actually dead? Whoops, now the new guys controls the army. GG.

I like how they put the "should not" almost like they know it's going to mess up or something.

a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. sounds like communism to me bud also most Communist countries are run by ...ding ding ding a military dictatorship. Who doesn't know what it is? lol what if they prepaid for a year and just arnt online for 30 days....again it doesn't matter gm's who know they are gonna be gone will just g kick everyone...np

been here, done that

Hi I am a leet WoW playah I can complains about everythingz I wants. OMG a new featurez ??? I go to MMOCHAMP to write mah complainz... I am leet harcorah. Blizzard darez implemens new features ??? NO, I knows better. You all sucks coz I knows better................. That is the average comment level on mmochamp nowadays.

One more reason to disregard blizz desires and don't give a fuck about what they want.
No need to feel bad about goldselling and account selling if blizz decides to distribute players possessions anyway.

Besides the system is flawed at the core. The internal ranks don't display guild intern ranking. You can setup intern 1. Gm 2. Member 3. Officer and now you have Members as second highest rank for nomination. And those names aren't always so easy to tell apart. Another thing would be that i gave some bankslots to special players who bought them from their money. If someone else gets access to them as gm and emptys them cause of blizz gz to excellent customer service.

To sum it up:
Highly retarded idea that won't bring me back. If they want to destroy it so be it.

This isn't new. Game Masters would already do this if requested in a ticket after a guild leader was inactive for 30 days. It's on the blizzard.com/support policy page. The only new thing is that it avoids a ticket.

---------- Post added 2011-09-30 at 07:47 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Nastified

How is this difficult to test? Have 20 Blizz employees create 5 guilds each. Log in on first day, none thereafter. Then log in on officer toons inside each respective guild every day thereafter, to maintain activity. They DO want to test this, right?

I doubt they have a problem testing this function. I'm pretty sure they mean for us to test on the PTR ourselves.

---------- Post added 2011-09-30 at 07:57 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Zekarus

I would suggest a 60 day threshold instead, for all the reasons mentioned before me.

Stop being selfish and thinking about yourself. If it's a serious raiding guild, there are at least 20 other people in that guild. Waiting a month is long enough without an active leader. You don't want to lose leadership. Log in. Even for a second. Don't go inactive for 30 days. :/

Originally Posted by AVPaul

Great idea, Blizzard. So if I'll decide to take some rest from Wow for a long time period I'll have to kick all of my guild members.

Actually, no. It looks like only officers will be able to take over the guild - so all you have to do is demote all the officers before you take your break.

Originally Posted by jonte912

or they could just remove the POS system that is currently the only reason why this matters at all. yes I'm talking about guild reputation which is fucking shit

granted, so is the guild levels, can't create new guilds anymore cuz no1 would join lvl 1 guilds

My guild is doing just fine for level one:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/ke...e%20Syndicate/



Granted, they're only joining because of my rated bg team being 2200.

Originally Posted by bany

Sure
Dont address major problems
Fiddle with useless rubish noone cares about. If a GL goes absent for longs periods of time, your guild probably isnt worth nothing, and guild hoping should be no problem

Or implement feature to have computer deal with this instead of people to save them many many hours which can now be devoted to other things. Yay.

---------- Post added 2011-09-30 at 08:12 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Nastified

How is this difficult to test? Have 20 Blizz employees create 5 guilds each. Log in on first day, none thereafter. Then log in on officer toons inside each respective guild every day thereafter, to maintain activity. They DO want to test this, right?

I expect they meant for YOU to test, not for them...

Originally Posted by fixit

Shouldn't even be an option.The guild leader owns it,just cause they want to study for uni or concentrate on a work project for 3 months,they should not lose their property.The officers should have access to all the tabs anyway if they wish to clean it out and start another guild.Even though they feel robbed of their guild achievements/history...to fkn bad,it belongs to the guild leader plain and simple.For instance if you own a house and decide to go on holiday why should your flatmates/tenants be able to claim the house.

Because shit for brains a house is your property, but a guild is a club and the gm is the club president. The president may have started the group and organized it for a few years, but the club members got the gold did the raids got the achievements not solely the gm so stfu asswipe.


Infracted.

Originally Posted by Literaltruth

Actually, no. It looks like only officers will be able to take over the guild - so all you have to do is demote all the officers before you take your break.

Highest ranking means highest ranking, the arbitrary name you give your ranks wouldn't come into consideration.
If you are rank 0 and all you have in your guild are rank 5s and 6s, then the rank 5s are the highest rank after you.

Thing I say that could be the problem is somebody that makes a guild to be their personal treasure in a sense, they include many others and set it up so regardless of the leader being present it is easily self sustaining so people or the rest of the guild don't need to GL to function normally. But just like some guilds has some random guild leaders take out of nowhere permanent hiatus, I am sure another amount of people also may be gone or away from WoW playing for a month or months every year for other cyclical obligations. I known a couple people with jobs who work a month or a few months a year but make 6 digits because they engineer/manage big projects dedicating all those days strictly to the projects, as well as college students that may need to take a month off per say for school, WoW's addictive properties is, you must not start playing even for a little bit if you don't want to get stuck spending mis-used hours into the game. I think if a guild is worth keeping, having and can go on for months alone w/o a guild leader then it may need to be like 2 months. If you don't feel like giving items to a guild because a GL might leave then don't I don't see how non-owners should really take over they never built up or started. I would see it being okay if say the account holder of the guild we also non-subscriber, but 30 days just seems short, most guilds can function for many weeks without the need of the GL to be present, we all know it, its Blizzard fault for introducing this crappy guild leveling system in the first place, that causes so many issues now, because everybody wants their perks and prizes.

To all the people that think they own anything in the world of warcraft, read your TOS.

To all the people that think 30 days is too short, you aren't there so how would you know?

To everyone else, it's about time sone thing like this got implemented. I just hope it is the first step towards more guild changes that will eventually eleminate the idea of a single guild master.