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Originally Posted by billielecter

It didn't happen in Vanilla, it didn't happen in TBC, it didn't happen in WLK. What happens is we are having less and less content to play.

It happened with ICC. I'm sure if I looked into it, I'd find that final tier TBC lasted almost a year.

Originally Posted by The Ogdru Jahad

I'm all for creative liberty, but seriously, what the hell is the wings on that mount? Wings are used to fly, and I really don't see the placement and size of the wings on that thing being used for any such task. If they took the wings off, I'd like it a whole lot more.

Remember what they wanted to do with the scarab lord mount? as you can read in its description it will depend on place and skill what it will do maybe it can fly and it's model changes with it? as they wanted the flying mounts to be ground mounts aswell.

8 months late for that achievement, but better late than never I guess.

It is nice to pay subscription for a game where mount content is locked behind a paywall.

Originally Posted by Phurox

It is nice to pay subscription for a game where riding content is locked behind a paywall.

ingame gold is the paywall you have to pass... why would they give you gold aswell for your sub?

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Originally Posted by Therealmagoo

I got my hopes up seeing the title "new mounts" but alas once again reskins, does no one else get sick of seeing the same mounts over and over again just with new skins...........i mean i know its probably a lot of time to make completely new mounts and all but something new and different would be nice, look at tera onlines mounts for instance. I would really really love the idea of a horse drawn cart mount that holds 4 people or something or maybe a different type of animal altogether isntead of reskinned horse or reskinned dragon or reskinned protodrake over and over again.

Have you seen the new mounts in WoD? aswell as the current new wolf mounts...

they arent reskins, they are completely new models just like our player models are going to be... alot more polygons and detail.

Why oh why did the Silithid had to have a stupid ass skull on the head, this pointless armour really annoys me sometimes. I'd much rather see the bug head than some random trophy/intimidation tactics skull. Color me uninterested.

Originally Posted by Otaka

ingame gold is the paywall you have to pass... why would they give you gold aswell for your sub?

Thanks for pointing out that my reply could be misunderstood if you really want to. Has been fixed now so purposly-annoying people won't reply the same way as you.

Hitching post means the horse at least is not a store mount. Puzzling.

Originally Posted by Rorcanna

Childish reaction. Why does one have to exclude the other? I dare say they'll earn more cash from WoD release than store mounts at that, if you need the usual greed argument.

Arent you ignorant, lol

Originally Posted by Phurox

It is nice to pay subscription for a game where mount content is locked behind a paywall.

Nearly all content is locked behind pawall , can't buy anything without gold

I just realized there is a mount name in the spell changes called Grinning Reaver. Is this the name of the savage tank mount or is this a name for a different mount?

Originally Posted by VerasGunn

Blizzard overcompensates with nerfs all of the time, so it wouldn't surprise me. I mean 1 percent speed increase isn't going to fly, and the .1 second duration pretty much means you hit it to break the snare and that's it.

Or you could use your brain and realize it's not a correct tooltip. Which happens a lot on ptr/beta datamined changes.

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Originally Posted by Pandapuncher

Why the hell can every horse in this game fly regardless of wings. What ever happened to just making frikin ground mounts

Because it's a fantasy game. Not all mounts need wings. I'm sure some mounts master telekinesis or levitation.

Originally Posted by unrealized

Why oh why did the Silithid had to have a stupid ass skull on the head

Yeah, i don't like this skull either. >=C

Originally Posted by Dark Exerus

I just realized there is a mount name in the spell changes called Grinning Reaver. Is this the name of the savage tank mount or is this a name for a different mount?

Probably a placeholder name from internal testing.

Originally Posted by Therealmagoo

I got my hopes up seeing the title "new mounts" but alas once again reskins, does no one else get sick of seeing the same mounts over and over again just with new skins...........i mean i know its probably a lot of time to make completely new mounts and all but something new and different would be nice, look at tera onlines mounts for instance. I would really really love the idea of a horse drawn cart mount that holds 4 people or something or maybe a different type of animal altogether isntead of reskinned horse or reskinned dragon or reskinned protodrake over and over again.

This is not a reskin, its a remodel. the model is completely different and built from scratch. The skeleton however is probably the AQ bug one

Additional item upgrades, I suppose that's "new content" in a lame way.
Will still wait until the expansion pre-patch or the expansion itself before I pick up WoW again, if I decide to that is.

At least it is somewhat nice for those still struggling with whatever content they are on.

Originally Posted by Tenjen

This is not a reskin, its a remodel. the model is completely different and built from scratch. The skeleton however is probably the AQ bug one

It's a completely new model, completely new textures. And also, many of the animations are modified, so the skeleton isn't at all just taken from the Ahn'Qiraj Battle Tanks/Silithids. Among the completely new and unique flight animations, its attack animation and a few other animations are new, and the majority of other animations are modified to look smoother, more up to date.


Example: silithid running looked more like sliding. While the cycle is very similar, this creature looks like it is actually making steps instead of gliding across the ground. That didn't just happen magically.

Originally Posted by TylerN

Additional item upgrades, I suppose that's "new content" in a lame way.
Will still wait until the expansion pre-patch or the expansion itself before I pick up WoW again, if I decide to that is.

At least it is somewhat nice for those still struggling with whatever content they are on.

what? the additional item upgrades aren't for that.

they're just the way SOO is being nerfed once it's past its relevant time period. By letting us boost our gear that is.

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Also concerning the Reaver Model's skeleton, Yarathir posted the following topic with gif images comparing the silithid and reaver mounts.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post27075291

Conclusion:

Claims of "lazy" are completely unfounded and unfair. This new ravager mount is not a literal skeletal copy-paste with a new model. Even if it was, that would have been a big job. But it is the second largest and second most intensive/extensive task for 3D artists that was involved here. No, they didn't grab a new skeleton because they knew it had to behave roughly like an already existing creature does (the silithid), but they also certainly didn't just stuff a silithid skeleton on to the model and call it a day. Like the Pterodactyl mount that they created using the Proto-drake mount skeleton as base, they modified existing animations to be less choppy, more lively and well-animated, and added new animations altogether in many cases. Of course that is obvious for the flying, but there are also other new animations.


Case in point: the running is similar, but there is no way it wasn't modified. The silithid's animation isn't particularly great compared to the ravager's. You can see the ravager actually set the steps, while the silithid glides across the ground. Not that I'm trying to bash the animators of that time because WoW was different then, and the models were of lesser quality for good reasons, not because the animators and modelers were bad.

Thus as said in response to my post above. At this point it's not so much a "Re" anything, so much as it IS its own new model.

Originally Posted by billielecter

It didn't happen in Vanilla, it didn't happen in TBC, it didn't happen in WLK. What happens is we are having less and less content to play.

We haven't had this much content ever for the player base as a hole, maybe the first tier in WotLK comes close but still. Besides there has been content dry seasons in every single expansion, it's just different now since everyone can consume the current content at the same rate that only HC raiders did back in previous expansions, due to raid instances being locked behind single or a few difficulty choices, which forced the more casual players to either not consume content at all or complete the content when it's no longer relevant.

Only time period when they have had a "steady" cycle time in content was classic, but this was mostly due to blizzard announcing the launch day of TBC before even actually hitting the beta, which caused a ridiculously short beta for TBC at the time. To demonstrate: MC ---> BWL = 9 months, BT --> SWP = 10 months, ICC --> Cataclysm = 12 months etc, so no these long dry seasons are in no way uncommon.

Didn't they *just* say it was "difficult" to do account wide criteria? Just as they said it was difficult to make Orgrimmar cross realm about a week before they made the change? What's up with that? Nice surprise for sure, and better than getting our hopes up for nothing, I suppose, but seems weird.