Upcoming Content Patch - Developer Live Stream

Originally Posted by Kathranis

Probably 8.2, 8.2.5, and a small hint of 8.3.

8.1 is hitting PTR this week and should be live before Blizzcon. For reference, 7.1 was announced at Gamescom 2016 and 7.2~7.3 was announced at Blizzcon 2016.

You are absolutely HIGH if you think 8.1 is going live any time this year, MAYBE December but HIGHLY unlikely. We've barely dipped foot in Uldir from an overall progression level.

And I don't care what anyone says, a faction split raid is definitely new, even if it's 3 bosses. The way they made it sound they would be unique encounters depending on the faction. I'm very interested to see how this plays out, what will world firsts look like? To fit the narrative, the bosses have to be different, i mean we know alliance is fighting King Rast himself, so that's a huge difference from what Horde might encounter. Maybe our encounter is protecting him.

I gots lots of questions, can't wait to see more info on PTR. Very cool idea, definitely trying something new.

A 2 boss raid? Why even introduce it at all? Why not just save it for when they introduce the Azshara raid? Or better yet, just could have made a new dungeon instead of a raid. I dunno. A 2 boss raid sounds really lame to me. I didn't like them in BC and I doubt I'll like it now.

Shocking that they made older race heritage armor a quest instead of having to grind it out!

NO ZANDALARI GG BLIZZARD so we will either be forced to switch mains in the middle of the xpac or we are going to receive them at the very end of BFA

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

A 2 boss raid? Why even introduce it at all? Why not just save it for when they introduce the Azshara raid? Or better yet, just could have made a new dungeon instead of a raid. I dunno. A 2 boss raid sounds really lame to me. I didn't like them in BC and I doubt I'll like it now.

There have been several raids in WoW's history with fewer than 5 bosses. Nothing wrong with them.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

A 2 boss raid? Why even introduce it at all? Why not just save it for when they introduce the Azshara raid? Or better yet, just could have made a new dungeon instead of a raid. I dunno. A 2 boss raid sounds really lame to me. I didn't like them in BC and I doubt I'll like it now.

Think Trial of Valor. While that 3 boss raid tied up a story, this one introduces one.

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Originally Posted by Sfidt

NO ZANDALARI GG BLIZZARD so we will either be forced to switch mains in the middle of the xpac or we are going to receive them at the very end of BFA

They literally said after completing the raid we can get them. At worst they'll be in 8.1.5. You aren't waiting till the end of BFA

We'll see a new interior of the pyramid that we've never seen before.

OMG the hype is real!

Originally Posted by Keesasha

Btw is there any proof that this was live and not a recording? There's no interaction with the chat or anything, so it could've been pre-recorded O_O

Have you ever SEEN Twitch chat? It's literal cancer. Them paying even an ounce of attention to chat is ludicrous. I guarantee it was a constant flood of "FIRE ION" and "LOOK AT ME BEING EDGY" nonsense, along with a healthy dollop of 4chan idiots who think spamming the swastika is the height of comedy (they LOVE free live streams of anything, because reeeeeeeee). Any Twitch or Youtube chat stream that's more than a couple hundred people is pretty much useless and scrolls too fast to read, anyway.

Ion keeps using the word "discussion", when it's anything but that - but "discussion" is one of the current trendy words in media and politics, because it makes it sound like you have a voice (you don't), they're paying attention (they're not) and that something will happen that you have a say in (you don't). If someone in authority says "discussion", it's going to be anything but that.

The only change that's substantial is making that one rep account-wide. (Is it even that important? Not playing the game) The rest is:

Players: "We hate [things]. [Things] are broken. [Things] aren't fun. Please fix [things]."
Ion: "Hey, look at new shiny [things]!"

They're committed. They're moving forward, as is, with "tweaks".

60% sub loss in WoD? Blizzard wants you to hold their beer.

With their balancing reputation, how will they balance this Raid with 2 different outcomes ?

Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums

Let's take out our 2nd grade mathbooks. 3 Faction specific bosses in a 9 boss dungeon. That's 3 + 9 = 12 bosses. Another raid with 2 bosses (this one builds up to 8.2 Azshara since it's in Shrine of Storms area) 12 + 2 = 14. 14 bosses.

Also, because you probably don't understand how development goes or what is considered patch worthy, but updates to systems, another warfront, hertiage armor (art team says hello), pet battle dungeon, those "few quests" AND updated (and more) island expeditions. Yea, that's a "minor patch" alright.

3 Faction specific bosses in a 9 boss dungeon would mean:

1. There are 9 bosses in total
2. Of those 9, 3 are faction specific.
3. Which likely means 3 alliance, 3 horde, 3 neutral... 6 boss experiences depending on which experience you're participating in. And then a "hey this is what happened with the other faction, to see the last 3 bosses).

At least with the wording you explained it as.

Originally Posted by squidman

I swear if the horde kills Jaina, and all we get to kill is Rastakhan, that is going to be such bs... Also after those cinematics, hyping her up and then to just kill her off, would just be terrible storytelling.

Jaina was just named Lord Admiral of Kul'Tiras. She's not going to die. She's the master of blink escapes.

Originally Posted by Navystylz

3 Faction specific bosses in a 9 boss dungeon would mean:

1. There are 9 bosses in total
2. Of those 9, 3 are faction specific.
3. Which likely means 3 alliance, 3 horde, 3 neutral...

^This.

Originally Posted by Sfidt

NO ZANDALARI GG BLIZZARD so we will either be forced to switch mains in the middle of the xpac or we are going to receive them at the very end of BFA

Did you even read the post? Zandalari will go live with the raid.

Originally Posted by Daedius

Shocking that they made older race heritage armor a quest instead of having to grind it out!

You still have to be exalted with the home city of your race. Which is easily done by leveling.

Originally Posted by baskev

You mean the king that almost died...yup...but he will just be replaced by his daughter. And if you watched what ion said...the alliance gets pushed back to the harbor...aka they/we lose :S

They go in, they kill Rastakahn, they make a tactical retreat with their mission proudly accomplished. Meanwhile, the Zandalari have to deal with a siege on their city AGAIN (Zul), they lose their king AGAIN (Rezan), and they will be horribly demoralized with grief and loss AGAIN. And to top it off, Jaina will get away meaning that the Zandalari won't even be able to avenge their fallen king?

How the fuck is this a loss for the Alliance?

Originally Posted by christehchris

Smoke and mirrors. Didn't address core issues of the expansion at all

Yes, the patch that was planned out several months before the game's launch didn't address issues that arose after the game launched and only a few weeks before the patch is announced.

Did you honestly think it would? These patches are planned out so far in advance that they can't really make changes to them quickly. Expecting changes this quickly is, quite frankly, unfair to the team. If they haven't addressed the issues by the next big patch, THEN you're justified to criticize the pace because they'll have had over half a year to fix the problems.

Originally Posted by RaoBurning

wait isn't Vol'jin dead?

Since when has death stopped the Darkspear? Perks of having Bwonsamdi as their patron loa. Darkspear never die.

I swear if the horde kills Jaina, and all we get to kill is Rastakhan, that is going to be such bs... Also after those cinematics, hyping her up and then to just kill her off, would just be terrible storytelling.

Originally Posted by chase123

Legion assaults zzzzzzzzzzz

If they give XP like legion ones bring them on. Legion assaults were stupidly good for zooming alts up to max level.

Originally Posted by Sfidt

NO ZANDALARI GG BLIZZARD so we will either be forced to switch mains in the middle of the xpac or we are going to receive them at the very end of BFA

WTF are you talking about they said they will come out shortly after the raid with no extra rep.

Originally Posted by meroko

You are absolutely HIGH if you think 8.1 is going live any time this year, MAYBE December but HIGHLY unlikely. We've barely dipped foot in Uldir from an overall progression level.

And I don't care what anyone says, a faction split raid is definitely new, even if it's 3 bosses. The way they made it sound they would be unique encounters depending on the faction. I'm very interested to see how this plays out, what will world firsts look like? To fit the narrative, the bosses have to be different, i mean we know alliance is fighting King Rast himself, so that's a huge difference from what Horde might encounter. Maybe our encounter is protecting him.

I gots lots of questions, can't wait to see more info on PTR. Very cool idea, definitely trying something new.

If it hits PTR this week it will likely get released this year. If the raid/raids will be playable this year is the real question. Like in legion the patch going in does not mean the raid stuff appears day one.

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Originally Posted by keyboardshinobi

WTF are you talking about they said they will come out shortly after the raid with no extra rep.

Yup I think the events of the raid basically cement the zandalari/kul tirans to your factions side so it is the logical point at which they become available as allies. By that time having all the requirements needed to unlock them should be easily done by anybody playing.

Does anyone know if we have to get exalted with champions for another upgrade? I really want to be done with them.

Originally Posted by Daedius

Shocking that they made older race heritage armor a quest instead of having to grind it out!

They didn't say that. They said IF you're 120 (i assume on that race) and exalted already, then you can do a quest. Otherwise, you still get to grind it out.

so a new raid using already existing zone with some part new inside the pyramid (probably just minor rooms)

so much Dragon Soul vibes

Originally Posted by meroko

You are absolutely HIGH if you think 8.1 is going live any time this year, MAYBE December but HIGHLY unlikely. We've barely dipped foot in Uldir from an overall progression level.

And I don't care what anyone says, a faction split raid is definitely new, even if it's 3 bosses. The way they made it sound they would be unique encounters depending on the faction. I'm very interested to see how this plays out, what will world firsts look like? To fit the narrative, the bosses have to be different, i mean we know alliance is fighting King Rast himself, so that's a huge difference from what Horde might encounter. Maybe our encounter is protecting him.

I gots lots of questions, can't wait to see more info on PTR. Very cool idea, definitely trying something new.

8.1 does not mean the raid open, pretty sure the raid will open in a similar fashion to legion.

Originally Posted by Mchamster

This is why bitching on a massive scale about problems with the game appears to be the only way to make effective changes for the good. They could have listened to beta feedback on a lot of this.

Yep.
such a shame so much of this could have been avoided
they need to take lessons if beta forums are saying the same thing over and over
in a constructive and detailed manner its worth listening