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Elemental Shaman Changes in Patch 8.1
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As the patch 8.1.0 information starts to comes out, we wanted to share the current plans of what is being changed for Elemental Shaman.

Core Ability Changes:
  • Shifted some damage from Earth Shock to Lightning Bolt.

    Elemental Shaman is the only lightning based spell caster. However, over time, Lightning Bolt has gone from being a significant portion of your total damage to one of your least damaging abilities. It should be a powerful and effective spell for you to cast, and not something that feels like a burden to your rotation. Earth Shock will still be your hardest hitting spell, but Lightning Bolt should feel a bit better as part of your rotation.

  • Lava Burst has had its functionality changed behind the scenes to allow an in-flight Lava Burst to gain a guaranteed critical strike from a Flame Shock cast after the Lava Burst has been cast.

    This change should help your initial spells cast against a monster, boss, enemy player, or whatever else feel much better. You can cast Lava Burst before combat, and when it finishes, cast Flame Shock, and the Lava Burst will gain the critical strike benefit from your Flame Shock.

Talent Changes:
  • The level 15 talent Elemental Blast will now always pick a different secondary stat buff when causing an Elemental Overload.
  • The level 30 talent Master of the Elements can now also benefit a Physical damage spell, allowing it to increase the damage of an Earthquake.
  • The level 100 talent Stormkeeper now also increases the damage of your next two Lightning Bolts by 250% in addition to its existing effects. This damage bonus will also apply to the Elemental Overloads of Lightning Bolt from Stormkeeper.

    The Master of the Elements and Stormkeeper changes are primarily to help keep balance between single target damage and area damage of the talent rows. Master of the Elements will now affect your next Earthquake spell to keep the talent more competitive when dealing area damage, and Stormkeeper will grant you two really powerful Lightning Bolts that also cause Elemental Overloads when fighting just a single target.

  • The level 15 talent Exposed Elements has been removed, and the level 90 talent Earthen Rage has taken its place
  • The level 60 talent High Voltage has been removed.
  • New talent in the level 60 row: Call the Thunder
  • New talent in the level 90 row: Surge of Power

When looking at the whole sum of changes made to Elemental Shaman this expansion, we feel that some of the passive talent choices weren’t holding up well, and had no interaction with how you played the game at all. We’re adding some experimental new talents that should allow some additional decision making on how you choose to use some of your abilities. Please keep in mind that both of these new talents, as well as all of the other changes, are still under iteration and may change entirely throughout the patch 8.1.0 PTR cycle.

Just as a quick update, here's the current version of the experimental new talents that will be hitting the PTR soon. Reminder that these are experimental, the PTR is for testing, we'll probably iterate on or completely replace these designs, etc.

Call the Thunder - Your maximum Maelstrom is increased by 30, and the Maelstrom cost of Earth Shock and Earthquake is reduced by 10.

Surge of Power - Earth Shock also enhances your next spell:
  • Flame Shock: The next cast does not incur a cooldown.
  • Lightning Bolt: Your next 3 casts will cause an additional Elemental Overload.
  • Lava Burst: Reduces the cooldown of your Fire (or Storm) Elemental by 6 sec.
  • Frost Shock: Roots the target in place for 6 sec.

Account Wide Reputation Achievements
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Does this mean for example I'm halfway through honored with 7th legion on this toon. If I get on another alt and level through the 3 zones doing the questline that also give 7th legion rep that will count towards rep on this toon as well and I should be revered? Or vice versa all my alts should be halfway honored when they enter bfa?

Rep gain won't be account wide, however progress towards the achievement will.

Say for example I have Character A that I haven't touched since Wrath, that has all of the previous reps exalted (not using exact numbers here just making an example). Let's say we have 20 reputations at exalted on this character that are unique.

Now I play Character B that I haven't touched those reps with, because I just don't want to grind them again. Let's say this character has 40 unique reputations that Character A doesn't have at exalted. Since its the highest progressed character the achievement only looks at this character. Meaning that I just have 40 reps as far as the achievement is concerned.

Now once I've logged into both of those characters when this change is added into the game, I will then receive credit towards the achievement tracker and I would now show as having 60 reputations on that achievement. So I effectively don't have to go back and get those reps again, unless I want to make my Rep window look pretty.

Any word on how it will treat faction exclusive reps?
They will uniquely act as a singular rep to avoid double credit, similar with how mounts are tracked.

So if you have exalted 7th Legion on your Alliance character, and exalted with Honorbound on your Horde. Then your account only has credit for 1 of those 2 reps in the achievement tracker. Account wise they're the same rep.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Elemental Shaman Changes in Patch 8.1, Account Wide Reputation Acheivements started by chaud View original post
Comments 72 Comments
  1. Uselessrouge's Avatar
    just hope the account wide rep wont take them until 8.1 . talking about HoA achivement is nice but neck is more important^^
  1. Alcsaar's Avatar
    Are they just ignoring Balance flat out?

    Bottom parsing DPS, even below Elemental shaman for mythic uldir, yet there hasn't been a single peep about balance changes.
  1. ElDoorO's Avatar
    Any word on when the beta is over? /s
  1. Powerogue's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rend Blackhand View Post
    Looks ok. Its all about those mystery talents that will make or break the spec
    If it's already broken surely there's nowhere to go but up? I'm optimistic and hoping these changes make live by the time I'm leveling my mag'har shaman.

    Still halfway through honored.
  1. Filipse's Avatar
    What about Enhancement? LUL
  1. Monkeymoo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    Disgusting account wide change. Why not just allow us to change class on the fly and mix n match abilities while you are at it?
    Be a little more dramatic next time, it will really drive your point home. What exactly is disgusting about the acct wide rep thing? Or did you not actually read what it is?
  1. Kyphael's Avatar
    Wait, so if I get exalted with 7th Legion, and faction change, I'll be exalted with Honorbound? Or did I read that wrong? I just got home from work and my eyes are tired.
  1. Metallourlante's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    Wait, so if I get exalted with 7th Legion, and faction change, I'll be exalted with Honorbound? Or did I read that wrong? I just got home from work and my eyes are tired.
    Yeah, should work like that. I remember in WoD I had the laughing skull achievement and after I faction changed that character it was converted to the sha'tari defense, so as long as those achievements are "equivalent" they swap if you do faction change.
  1. Monkeymoo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Uselessrouge View Post
    just hope the account wide rep wont take them until 8.1 . talking about HoA achivement is nice but neck is more important^^
    They just said you can get the ilvl upgrade on all characters once one character has gotten it.
  1. Kyphael's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Metallourlante View Post
    Yeah, should work like that. I remember in WoD I had the laughing skull achievement and after I faction changed that character it was converted to the sha'tari defense, so as long as those achievements are "equivalent" they swap if you do faction change.
    Um... $30, beats another month of grinding.
  1. Socialhealer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcsaar View Post
    Are they just ignoring Balance flat out?

    Bottom parsing DPS, even below Elemental shaman for mythic uldir, yet there hasn't been a single peep about balance changes.
    balance still good mythic mythrax & g'huun.

    elemental still good at.....yeah i'm waiting.
  1. mmocbd02567a48's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    Disgusting account wide change. Why not just allow us to change class on the fly and mix n match abilities while you are at it?
    Might want to read the blue post before raging... Reputations are not becoming account wide, it's the tracking of the achievement (earn x exalted reputations) that will now include other characters on the account (with the obvious restrictions/rules, similar to how mounts and pet tracking works).
  1. Alcsaar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    balance still good mythic mythrax & g'huun.

    elemental still good at.....yeah i'm waiting.
    Wow 2 where balance isn't complete dumpster but is still outclassed by many other classes. Add to that the rest of the raid bosses and every mythic dungeon and you've got a whole like 4% of boss fights that balance MAYBE competes on, and none that balance shines on.

    Warcraft logs don't lie, ele still parses higher on average.
  1. tru's Avatar
    Thought enh was more on their radar vs ele and no mention of it hardly...
  1. Thelxi's Avatar
    So flame shock still has a cooldown? whatever.
  1. Socialhealer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcsaar View Post
    Wow 2 where balance isn't complete dumpster but is still outclassed by many other classes. Add to that the rest of the raid bosses and every mythic dungeon and you've got a whole like 4% of boss fights that balance MAYBE competes on, and none that balance shines on.

    Warcraft logs don't lie, ele still parses higher on average.
    there are no parses for mythrax & g'huun mythic yet, this will make balance pass elemental overall not having your best fights parses missing doesn't paint the complete picture.

    so with even "useless" balance out parsing elemental, i think we can see why elemental is in such a bad state huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    So flame shock still has a cooldown? whatever.
    clueless devs, utterly clueless they're trying to offer it back with surge of power, but it's bullshit it NEEDS to be baseline, any other answer is pure stupidity and ignorance from the clowns at blizzard.
  1. lollerlaban's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    Wait, so if I get exalted with 7th Legion, and faction change, I'll be exalted with Honorbound? Or did I read that wrong? I just got home from work and my eyes are tired.
    You can already do that
  1. Valkryst12's Avatar
    I think people are a little bit confused about the upcoming rep changes. It's not exactly what they were hoping.
  1. shadycharacter1's Avatar
    I hope it comes with an animation update to lighting bolt, that thing looks like absolute SHIT compared to every other spell.
  1. Kuja's Avatar
    Huh? Removing talents and adding new ones in the middle of an expansion? Nice beta testing there

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