Complexity Limit Claims World First Ny'alotha!
Ny'alotha the Waking City has been cleared on Mythic difficulty by Complexity Limit! Congratulations to them!

The official Mythic Raid Leaderboard now has its first entry for this tier.




This article was originally published in forum thread: Complexity Limit Claims World First Ny'alotha! started by Lumy View original post
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  1. Smeller's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by david0925 View Post
    It's actually quite pathetic for people to seriously (note: I know trolls will use anything to instigate anything) use the 16 hour head start to discredit Limit. Yes, ideally it may be better to globally launch the patch, but then people will just move the goalpost to another argument (playing time) to invalidate another guild's success. It's the same when people use the excuse of "NA can't dayraid as much because of job requirement". Yes, that might be true, but it is very hard to quantify all of those elements and in the end you just need to stop talking about it.

    Not to mention that the 16h headstart doesn't even matter nearly as much, if at all, if the leading guild is feeding strategy and ideal class comp to lagging guilds, on top of needing to deal with pugs much earlier and longer than lagging guilds.

    This shows how much stronger Method (and EU guilds in general) are in past tiers, because they can having a later start, get to final boss first and feed strat, and still come out on top. But in this tier, they were just outmatch in every single aspect and there isn't a SINGLE element outside of their control that prevented them from taking world first: Limit simply played better in the entire tier, and especially on N'zoth.
    How is it discrediting a kill if you just hold out with the announcement of world first until every time zone had the same time on the content as the guild which got the kill? It's more like validating that they got the kill because they were better not because they had more time.

    Discrediting would be if someone said "Limit only got the kill because they 16 hours longer." and if that person is right.
  1. david0925's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Smeller View Post
    How is it discrediting a kill if you just hold out with the announcement of world first until every time zone had the same time on the content as the guild which got the kill? It's more like validating that they got the kill because they were better not because they had more time.

    Discrediting would be if someone said "Limit only got the kill because they 16 hours longer." and if that person is right.
    Because there's other factors that we have talked about to death besides server launch, because of streaming.

    If we want to have a race for the sake of a race and science, then sure, we can just have all the racing guilds turn off their stream so lagging guilds cannot learn from leading guilds, and then we can do exactly as you say, but right now the effect of a head start is very controversial because lagging guild, especially at that caliber of play, is going to close the gap very quickly by learning from leading guild's streams. But i think a "closed race" is also not entertaining.
  1. Ealyssa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by GenericDifference View Post
    Congrats to Limit.
    Part of me hopes Method kill him within the next half day so we can have the First vs Fastest debate and hopefully get Blizz to consider simultaneous launches.
    Blizzard don't even has to do that. They just should do an official kill timer when raid is opened starting at each region release. And the trully fastest guild get official WF recognition from Blizzard on twitter.

    Boom, "problem" fixed with no game change at all.

    A race with a ~15hours ? (Accounting for time zones ?) headstart without anyone acknowledging it is stupid, no matter how you watch it.
  1. ThrashMetalFtw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Nope, not annoyed, Do yourself a favor, don't conflate one posters attitude with anothers. I dont really care what people discuss, but IMO a guild clearing the new raid isnt news. Nothing more. Nothing less.
    The world first race is easily the most followed event and most important news on this page except for news regarding major patches and expansions.

    You are ofc entitled to your opinion, even if that opinion is wrong by definition.

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