Valor Points System Update, Ve'nari Upgrades Capped to Season 1, DLC #760

Originally Posted by Kumorii

Players wanted more loot from raids. Blizzard gave them more loot from raids.
Players wanted valor points to upgrade PvE gear. Blizzard gave them valor points to upgrade PvE gear.

I see you also ignored the point I actually replied to you with. Which is your claim that they would bleed players if they didn't add this "regrind", a regrind you claim players don't want. Which means that they would bleed players by giving them what they wanted. No regrind of gear. Are you following what you are saying? Ergo, If blizzard gives what players want they would bleed players.

You can't add sockets to gear dropped in 9.0.5 without first regrinding Ve'nari. That's utter trash and is only being introduced to try and keep players subbed.

Originally Posted by Nitrax

I have never seen WoW community this upset for blizzard giving BETTER LOOT!

I have no idea why people who are doing fine today have to "re grind" stuff to get these valor items? Why do you *have* to do anything? I wouldn't even get this upset if all my characters were deleted!

It's usually the same kind of posters tbh... sort of like the antithesis of the "blizzard shill". Blizzard could give them a car and they would complain it's the wrong color or something.

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Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

You can't add sockets to gear dropped in 9.0.5 without first regrinding Ve'nari. That's utter trash and is only being introduced to try and keep players subbed.

Ok... Blizzard still gave raid players more loot and people who wanted valor points got valor points. But I guess they didn't give players what they wanted because of this minute thing... you are very selective, you know that right?

Also, what do you mean regrinding Ve'nari? Will they reset your reputation or what? If so yeah, it's retarded, I however doubt that's the case.
9.0.5 is season 1 still. As the person below mentions.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

You can't add sockets to gear dropped in 9.0.5 without first regrinding Ve'nari. That's utter trash and is only being introduced to try and keep players subbed.

Why wouldn't you? It literally states it is to remain the same for the entire season 1, and when 9.1 hits we will probably get a completely different hub to grind for sockets (if it's even possible then).

Originally Posted by Puri

Why wouldn't you? It literally states it is to remain the same for the entire season 1, and when 9.1 hits we will probably get a completely different hub to grind for sockets (if it's even possible then).

I don't recall WoW ever having "seasons" before in the past. The fact that that gear is treated 100% different in a half-patch isn't really giving me any kind of optimism for the rest of the patches in the expansion.

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

I don't recall WoW ever having "seasons" before in the past. The fact that that gear is treated 100% different in a half-patch isn't really giving me any kind of optimism for the rest of the patches in the expansion.

We've had pvp seasons since Burning Crusade and mythic+ seasons technically since Legion and actually called that ingame since BfA.

That sounds okay from me, guess I'll just have to spam some 14s after the patch

I don't understand the comic tho.
The Tag system already allows shared rares And most mobs.
Buhu not cross faction all the time, but do you know how it was in early wow days?
1 tag per mob. So if the hunter from your faction pulled you had to wait 5 min for respawn.
The system that is in place now is more generous than ever and I definitely profit from it alot more than It hinders me to kill some grey mobs.
When I see grey mobs I just go to the next group that has my faction on it, or find my own mobs.
For most worldq you don't even need a group. Just tag, run 100 yards away. Wait for kill. Collect 250 anima. What more do you want? Instant mail all worlq rewards?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Loot drops in pve have been utterly abysmal this expansion. They say valor points are coming but now they ONLY count towards loot dropped in 9.0.5 and ONLY affect m+ gear. Furthermore, we're going to have grind in the Maw AGAIN, the worst zone they have ever introduced into the game. How anyone can possibly defend these actions is beyond me. Every decision about this expansion has been complete fucking trash.

1.) There is no easy solution when adding a system like this mid-tier. You're either going to piss off half the playerbase because it doesn't do enough or you're going to piss off half the playerbase because it compels them to hoard gear.

2.) I'm genuinely surprised people are shocked Blizzard is going to keep people in The Maw. It has been toted as a facet of endgame progress since early Alpha. Yeah, the place fucking sucks but what did you expect? "We have deleted The Maw due to player feedback that it sucks"?

Originally Posted by Twdft

We've had pvp seasons since Burning Crusade and mythic+ seasons technically since Legion and actually called that ingame since BfA.

Ok that's pvp seasons. there's never been pve seasons that included raids.

Originally Posted by otaXephon

1.) There is no easy solution when adding a system like this mid-tier. You're either going to piss off half the playerbase because it doesn't do enough or you're going to piss off half the playerbase because it compels them to hoard gear.

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What's wrong with gear hoarding?
If you're even semi-serious about gear you would already hold gear pieces and resim each new loot to see if new loot piece doesn't give you new better composition.

Anyone else tired of season in this game.. it is just so lazy.. here are the same shit but hey it is now season 2!!!! ...

Originally Posted by Dzonathan

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What's wrong with gear hoarding?
If you're even semi-serious about gear you would already hold gear pieces and resim each new loot to see if new loot piece doesn't give you new better composition.

Oh -- are we going to pretend that players like this constitute a meaningful portion of the playerbase?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Ok that's pvp seasons. there's never been pve seasons that included raids.

Well, M+ seasons (in which had time to earn the appropriate keymaster achievment for the mounts) have been around since mid legion and are called seasons ingame since BFA, and are (usually) tied to PVP seasons which are usually tied to game patches).

blizzard are f***** genious LOL
heh, you have all your bis stuff ? or nearly complete it ?
let me put a patch in game to upgrade this stuff !
gogogo, do the same thing you do since 2 month, double the content for half the working !

Originally Posted by Puri

Well, M+ seasons (in which had time to earn the appropriate keymaster achievment for the mounts) have been around since mid legion and are called seasons ingame since BFA, and are (usually) tied to PVP seasons which are usually tied to game patches).

Man, it's almost as if you are literally refusing to read what I wrote. I said RAIDS have never had seasons yet suddenly raids are getting seasons, rendering loot gain in the previous "season" are now going to basically be obsolete.

Originally Posted by Dzonathan

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What's wrong with gear hoarding?
If you're even semi-serious about gear you would already hold gear pieces and resim each new loot to see if new loot piece doesn't give you new better composition.

Are you saying a semi serious raider will hold a 200ilvl piece, after acquiring a 213 or 226, for the entire tier on the off chance Blizzard adds a new system to upgrade it? Let alone, multiple pieces of 200ilvl gear after getting gear 10-20+ ilvls higher.

Originally Posted by Dzonathan

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What's wrong with gear hoarding?
If you're even semi-serious about gear you would already hold gear pieces and resim each new loot to see if new loot piece doesn't give you new better composition.

^Semi-serious or higher raider had to create a brand new account on this website to correct an ongoing false narrative on this website.
Thank you for doing God's Sargeras' work.

"This is correct. You will not be able to upgrade items that dropped before patch 9.0.5." LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Time to stop playing this addon.

Originally Posted by Eapoe

Are you saying a semi serious raider will hold a 200ilvl piece, after acquiring a 213 or 226, for the entire tier on the off chance Blizzard adds a new system to upgrade it? Let alone, multiple pieces of 200ilvl gear after getting gear 10-20+ ilvls higher.

After hearing that Blizzard is looking to improve PvE gear progression while being aware that PvP side of things allow for just that? Yes.
Turns out the hunch was good until blizz decided to exclude items looted before the patch because pretentious reasons.

Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS

^Semi-serious or higher raider had to create a brand new account on this website to correct an ongoing false narrative on this website.
Thank you for doing God's Sargeras' work.

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by otaXephon

Oh -- are we going to pretend that players like this constitute a meaningful portion of the playerbase?

You want to say something?

Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero

Ok that's pvp seasons. there's never been pve seasons that included raids.

"seasons"..."tiers"...bro you just want to argue words not concepts. Sit down.